Hybrid1988
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I always imagined an expansive 2 cd/record package for a greatest hits. I guess it's an easier sell to just market 1 disc. more affordable and all that.
What I expected:
PapercutOSC
Points (maybe even replace with Reanimation version)
Crawling
In The End
SIB
Faint
BTH
FTI
Numb
Lost
Given Up
LOATR
BIO
SOTD
WID
New Divide
BITSWFTE
Iridescent
Catalyst
LITE
BID
COG
UIG
Final Masquerade
TTM
Heavy
OML
Friendly Fire
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1 hour ago, Arslan said:
next chapter blue
Slipknot already claimed the Gray chapter. -
Imagine if there are zero "new" songs on this supposed GH album? I almost want to see it happen just to witness the fandom meltdown.
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2 hours ago, ShineWolf said:
I hope Already Over is on it
Already over sped up version. -
Meanwhile, I've just been here on my own ignoring every thing Shinoda posts because AO was completely underwhelming to me.
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9 hours ago, leftshoe18 said:
> Mike since 2017 is attracted to every trend.
This has been Linkin Park the entire time.
Hybrid Theory/Meteora - Rap Rock/Nu-Metal in the early 2000s
Minutes to Midnight - emo-tinged pop rock while bands like MCR and FOB were huge
A Thousand Suns - electronica-infused rock music
Living Things - more electronic, dubstep elements
The Hunting Party - the only album that doesn't follow a current trend
One More Light - straight pop with a little bit of rock influence, though it did kinda feel like a pop album that hit two years too late
Don't get me wrong, I do absolutely love Linkin Park. But they've been trendchasers since the beginning. The big thing that sets LP apart from the trends they're chasing is that they usually put a unique spin on it or combine things in unique ways.
This x100.
THP is the only time they actively went against the current trend. And it failed for them lol. I would say that with the exception of HT and Meteora, they always felt a year or two behind. OML was the most obvious case of it.
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47 minutes ago, Somebodyangry said:
Chester feels in his element here 100%. Like, it’s a very simple song but super effective
Couldn't have said it better myself. Chester really shines and sounds so natural playing straight up rock n roll. what a legend
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11 hours ago, Trumtram said:
Again, no expert on the legalities and I haven't dug deep into the details of those songs like other people did. In the end his claims need to be proven by him / his legal team. I honestly have no idea what qualifies as performance or writing credits in these cases and I don't know what he got offered as compensation. My gut still tells me that he deserves money from it (with "it" being stuff he contributed to) how little it may be. Let's see how this progresses.
That's pretty much my stance. Most people here would know more about the timeline of songs/members and supposed contributions. All I really meant to say was, if he played on anything that has been released, he should be paid accordingly. Not sure why that's a controversial opinion to some. If the worst case scenario of LP/WB completely stiffing this guy is true (personally, I doubt it) I still don't see him getting paid some exorbitant amount. If I had to bet, this will settle out of court. -
Pay the guy for what he played on and move on. Warner isn’t hurting for cash enough to not toss what is realistically gonna be a relatively small payment. What numbers did HT20 and some LPU releases hit? Surely nothing staggering in terms of LP’s back catalog of core releases.
I don’t see this being a huge trial or some massive pay off like some people are expecting.
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2 hours ago, JZLP-NaughtyNottingham said:
Be Somebody has one of the worst lyrics and chorus in the LP universe
My English is awful and even to me it sounds cringe
This release is so random I mean what's the point? More vinyls more money?
I don't even know if this is for an anniversary or somethinh
I would love to hear some unreleased demos on a release like this, I guess that Shinoda has some in his vault.
It's just an opportunity to re-issue. Artists do it all the time. Pretty cool that he's adding the deluxe edition tracks + welcome. I have no issues with this and I usually have pretty cynical takes.
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20 hours ago, bloodbath said:
The vinyl market is a fucking joke
100%. Can’t wait for the bubble to pop.
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1 hour ago, Stranger said:
that's how label making money. if they put everything out at once, how they gonna making more money? 🤑 the band cant say "no", so it's up to you whether you want to buy it or not, the label still wins. business.
That's totally understandable. To be fair, I don't think the band themselves are lighting their cigars with 100 dollar bills while making these decisions. Labels gonna do what it feels it needs to do. It's just a total head scratcher that we didn't get a super deluxe vinyl only set with all of these, considering Vinyl sales have overtaken CD's recently. I'm not involved with the music business let alone from a manufacturing/sales/marketing position, but as a fan it just feels like another case of a major label being out of touch with what fans want.
1 hour ago, gorast said:To engage with this in a non-shitty way, I think that, beyond the cynical answer of excluding the Lost demos on vinyl so that they could do this release, there's also the practical aspect of what makes it onto vinyl in the box set and what doesn't. Warner established a precedent with HT20 that the demos disc would be CD and digital-exclusive, and I think it makes sense to follow that precedent with M20. Plus, including another record in the box would undoubtedly increase the price, and going above $200 would likely have a pretty decent impact on sales, likely more than the added revenue of the higher price. Alternatively, they could have cut the Nottingham show on vinyl, but then where does that go instead? On a CD? Cut from the box entirely?
I think the answer for the diehards would simply be "just add another record and raise the price," but I can see why Warner wouldn't have wanted to do that. Keeps the box at $200 and allows them to double-dip with RSD instead. I get the annoyance, though - it does feel a little bit like being nickel-and-dimed, but that's how Warner's gonna be, ultiamtely.
I touched on this a little above but it's just silly that they couldn't have compromised in some way and at least included a vinyl only set that contains the material that they heavily marketed for that particular release. I want to ask "who even cares about CD's anymore?" but since this is a hardcore fan/collector populated site, that probably won't go over too well for my argument.
Thinking on my position a bit more, I think I am more annoyed by the artificial scarcity factor of the release more than having to purchase ANOTHER separate release (taking your argument in good faith that they just couldn't make an additional record work for M20). I'm probably in the minority here but I would have gladly taken a set of just records for the full price of the super deluxe M20 as opposed to some records, cd's and prints/stickers that won't really get any use from me.
Anyway... Appreciate having a dialogue! You raised some great points. Discussions like this make me miss the old days of band fandom where we had to make an effort to get involved in discussions on fan sites. But now I am just being a blabbering old man reminiscing on the "good old days" haha!
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15 minutes ago, JZLP-NaughtyNottingham said:
My man here just found out that bands are not charity.
I don't mind purchasing material from bands I enjoy, I'm a big boy, I can afford it. My tolerance is just a tad bit lower for this kind of stuff when the band in question are millionaires. But shitposters gonna shitpost.
"I would have paid extra for a bundle with this and LPU demo records included"
Nowhere did I imply they should give their material out as charity. In fact I implied the opposite.
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Hard not to feel a bit annoyed by this. Why couldn't this have just been included in any of the M20 sets? This just feels like a way to double/triple dip into fans wallets. I would have paid extra for a bundle with this and LPU demo records included. Not to mention the artificial scarcity factor that makes it harder for actual fans to purchase when they have to compete with flippers. Not a good look in my opinion.
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On 9/27/2023 at 12:25 AM, Somebodyangry said:
hahah. Seriously, I am not really complaininig, I love Heavy and it clocks in at 2.50 or something like that, and my fav TTSM songs off the new record are 2.40-2.50 minutes
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6 hours ago, Somebodyangry said:
Song is only 2.40 so when you start vibing it’s… already over. Lol.
Tik Tok songs gotta be short!
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1 hour ago, lpliveusername said:
Does anybody remember this track? Starts the same way. It wasn't done on Twitch, it came out of nowhere. Maybe an early demo from this project? The new song, based on the snippet played by Mike, definitely has punk rock influences (more like pop punk), which explains the imagery we've been seeing for the last few days. If this turns out to be an album, I think we might hear other songs in this style.
That was much more along the lines of what I was expecting based on the imagery he's been providing us. Something along the lines of that and like Death Grips or Ghostemane style beats. Trying not to judge the song before I hear the whole thing but so far, it's probably another in a long line of things that just haven't been to my taste. Good for him for doing what he wants though, it's not all gonna land for everyone.
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14 hours ago, Stranger said:
i like the track. so, it's only you, since you dislike the track. poor thing. that's sad but hey, there's many artists out there that might suits your preferences. have a great day.
I’m not sure I can defeat you in the defensively passive aggressive department.
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14 hours ago, Stranger said:
he does make music for everyone else except you. that's fair enough i guess.
anyway, this track is addicted. would love to hear the instrumental.
No he makes music for everyone except me and you. Please try not to make this simple mistake again my friend. Have a blessed day! -
Shinoda just does not make music for me anymore.
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Aside from the first 4 tracks, this album hasn't aged well for me
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17 hours ago, Trumtram said:
What is up with new accounts doing guerilla marketing quite obviously? First about GD and now Jeff?
Everybody wants their hands in the LP pocket.
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On 5/16/2023 at 5:02 PM, bloodbath said:
Sean, get out off the forum
lmao
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17 hours ago, LinkinParkFan said:
These 3 are new holy grails. You can listen snippets here:
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I really wish we had that version of Lost included. I'm guessing they don't have those stems anymore. Still, really cool to hear a little more of that version of the song after all these years.
Friendly Fire / Papercuts (Singles Collection 2000-2023)
in Newswire
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Doubt it. just going off the Shinoda releases, they never got close to the hype of an LP release. The rest of the members aren’t big rockstar personalities so their contributions won’t add much to the casual fans.
Now, that’s not me saying they can’t continue with Mike as a sole vocalist and be successful. They surely can. It just probably won’t be as big as anything with Chester.
Same here dude. It’s crazy to me. Tons of LP fans were begging for a more hard rocking album from them and when they finally delivered, nobody bought in. I thought the album was going to be huge in the rock world. Feels like I’m the only one who dug it sometimes.