bloodbath

54 minutes ago, Mohnjorrow said:

I know we can't share links but does anyone know where I can look for the concerts from the M20 DVDs?  Or where I can purchase them outside of the box set?

1. You'll have to wait to someone to upload to YouTube without being taken down.

2. It's not possible, they're exclusive to the boxset

Hi guys, now the box set is out and some of you have already enjoying it, let's see is somebody can help me with this tricky issue. 

As far as I understand, the original DVD and CD combo of LIT were essentially the same audio, with some dialogues cut and the obvious 5 omissions. Nevertheless, if OSC from the DVD is taken from Dallas (just an example), the CD is also from that same show, right?

The LPU3 tracks, which according to Linkinpedia, are different recordings. Again with the examples, if Figure 09 in the DVD is from Houston, the LPU CD is from Dallas. Quite similar, but not an audio version of the DVD.

The Meteora 20 version has the full setlist. Besides the modern remastering, regarding those missing five tracks, are they a audio version of the DVD, which means that the LPU3 tracks still being unique recordings after all this time? Or they truly are the Underground versions integrated in the full release for the first time?

Thanks 

Anyone else here is patiently saving money to buy the box set?

Regarding the Lost mix issue:

First and foremost let's appreciate that we have access to both. Having said that, let's be real, if you want to make a HUGE comeback to the world, it has to be with modern standards. If they had returned with the same 02 mix, many casual fans would have regarded it as a demo or a nostalgia act. They have to sound modern, like the track was really composed today, with the classic LP formula. That's why the track has been such a success. Not even the rest of the songs will receive the same amount of affection. The 02 mix is great for us, the hardcore fans, but we're a minority.

9 hours ago, sofiafox1 said:

I'm wondering if I use the new Live in Texas tracks as doubles for the tracks on LPU3, they're the same performances and songs, but I heard the ones on LPU3 were mixed differently than the video album, so I'm a bit conflicted.

Perhaps I'm mistaken, but as far as I know, this new 2023 is essentially the same recording as shown in the DVD. The LPU3 had some tweeks here and there. Let's say that the recording of Figure.09 in the DVD is 90% Dallas and 10% Houston. For the LPU3 CD they might have done 90% Houston and 10% Dallas in the same song (Reason behind this: I don't know). That's why the tracks on that CD are a little bit different 

10 minutes ago, Coizu said:

I'll post it one last time, but I assume people will ignore it because it doesn't fit their narrative: Living Things, One More Light and the new Lost mix sound the way they do because that's how the band wants them to sound, not because of the person who mixed it. A mixing engineer has no creative freedom and they won't be able to turn the volume of guitars for example down, just because they think it's better and the band has to live with it. A mixing engineer is just there to bring the vision of the artist alive by applying their craftsmanship to make that sound work, and Manny is pretty much one of the best when it comes to that. If I recall correctly both Mike and Brad are in the room for the whole mixing process so they could always raise their voice if they think the output is not what they have envisioned.

Does that mean you have to like the way the guitars are more muted on those albums and tracks? No, absolutely not, you don't. But the responsibility for that sound is on the band, not the mixing engineer.

 

Also I will take the bait but the people who prefer the old mix seem like the typical "louder guitars = gooder music!!" group but I'll just leave that topic alone now.

People can't handle the fact that their favorite artist might have a opposite vision about what their own music should sound like

1 hour ago, Hybrid1988 said:

 

Agreed on this. Feels like the only minor misstep here. As it is, I am waiting for the price of the Vinyl bundle to drop in price a little so I can at least have the LPU tracks on Vinyl. Bummer that they couldn't toss that into the Super deluxe as well. 

They could, but they want you spending 100€ more

So, Resolution is a demo of Lost similar to what Holding Company is to LITE? Regarding the later, I always felt that they were too different to be ever considered a demo and a finished product of the same idea. But that's just my take 

1 hour ago, Qwerty18 said:

 

100% behind this. That is one of the coolest things about those anniversary boxsets imo. They encapsulate an entire era. Hearing all that stuff together makes much more sense than when spread all over the place. That is also the reason why I really, really, really hope there will be MTM20. I think MTM is the worst offender when it comes to spreading stuf allf around 😃

Although I think we can omit 10 versions of the same song at rehearsals 

The DVDs are venues feed or proper recordings?

7 hours ago, LPLStaff said:

There appears to be some bad blood between LP and Jeff, for their own personal reasons. The band doesn't reflect on the HT sessions as being super friendly/fun... in fact they say it was very stressful etc so that definitely has a lot to do with it. Even by Jeff's own admission they wanted Jeff to stand up for them more to the label and blah blah, in his book he gets into the small details about how the band saw things versus how he saw things.

Jeff was one of those who wanted to kick Mike out, or he didn't simply defend him when others attacked him? PS: Has any of the members ever say something about the Jeff book?

Any chances of a LPU 17? Or it's impossible to know?

"we don't want to look backward at all". Surprising that they didn't revisit those at late 2011/early 2012

1 hour ago, unksoldier2000 said:

that version from Carousel is this one from 02-2000

 

How I wish that they played it live during those 2001 headlining shows where they had to fill up time

1 hour ago, LPLStaff said:

 

While we don't have that Slip and And One, the Stick N Move on Hybrid Theory 20 is most likely from the NRG sessions in early 2000.

Carousel (included on the box set) and Part of Me (not included) post EP were also from those early 2000 NRG sessions?

6 hours ago, KolusLP said:

I'm the guy from the listening party in Madrid, as I told Capacity I only slept 3 hours ( 3 months baby) the night before the listening party and I was very tired.

I only heard one time each song, and Massive was the second one, I only remember that it was more raw, at the moment it seemed to me that were vocals of Mike and Chester but Derek opinion is more accurate for sure.

I heard the MT demos when there were released in each of the LPU but I havent listened again in a long time, and Its been like 15 years since i last saw the video of Wizard Song that is why I didnt recognised the Wizard Song beat with Mike.

BTH is the Mike demo, as I said many time that I did hear that versión.

And regarding Dont Stay as I Said in anonther chats I heard a song that had some of the beats but I think is contained in one of the other demos.

I tried to remember every detail to share with LP community but I'm getting old and my memory fails. Sorry for the misundertandings that my post produced

Nahhhhh don't worry dude, we appreciate your efforts. As for the mistakes... Well, you can see that this forums are full of failed predictions, fights over it, business as usual 🤣

29 minutes ago, linkindan said:

The best bit was Healing Foot being “released” on my birthday 😂

 

It would be something wouldn’t it - imagine a new mashup that didn’t make the EP 🤯

 

I have to believe there’ll be at least new merch for it, but I’d be AMAZED if there’s anything else

Don't think so, they'd probably have thought quality over quantity. The full Live 8 and The Roxy Show are enough gems for us, but we all know that none of this gonna happen 

17 minutes ago, LPLStaff said:

We get to do it all again for MTM20, new Linkin Park music, and more. Don't worry, it won't be the last exciting thing haha

Or a Collision Course box set 😂

To be honest, I'm kinda sad that 

Meteora 20 is released this Friday. Since December it has been VERY funny interacting with you all for every little piece of information. We have a couple of weeks more of discussing everything about the box set, but it's not gonna be the same

More BTH demos??? 2 are enough for me

35 minutes ago, leftshoe18 said:

I hope the Don't Stay and BTH demos are on the QR code. I'm guessing they found them later in the process after things were already finalized or something.

 

Although how cool would it be to start getting LPU CDs again?

1 minute ago, unksoldier2000 said:

something cool to we get answered by Mike... what track was Nocturnal and Serpent?
(especially Nocturnal, since was one of the early tracks to be ever mentioned alongside BTH and Shifter)

He would probably say that he doesn't remember it at all

2 hours ago, RYG4R said:

LT and THP were supplementary releases, IMO. It's there because they had to because of contract and shit. No passion whatsoever. OML on the other side, it had the passion but lacked commitment. OML deserved to have an external producer. Different minds, different takes, different vibe. Though, we had different writers and contributors but they all sound the same. 

I couldn't have said better. LT and THP although good, they felt incomplete. And OML had better ideas than actual performance 

1 hour ago, vinifeijo said:

Which release (album or song) do you think the band had confidence it would perform well but flopped?

There are a few releases the band knew it would'nt be popular, but what about the ones they thought it would?

Lost is clearly the opposite, way more successful than anyone could predict.

THP. The cycle started bad and ended up worst

Just now, leftshoe18 said:

Yeah I really like Meteora as a half hour of power. A longer album wouldn't have had the same impact from start to finish.

It's the Reign in Blood of nu metal 🤣

Perhaps I'm a bit of a downer, but I like the album as we got it in 03. Lesser tracks means not only that people would have tended to get bored by the 16th song (remember, downloading stuff and making your own playlist was already a big thing in 2003), songs would have less time to shine on their own, comparisons would arise and those new tracks wouldn't be so beloved as they are right now. Being in the vault for two decades makes them very desirable.