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Hi guys, long time no see! Since things has been quite here for a while until we have the European tour, I wanted to ramble a little bit. As many of you I'm a big fan of live albums and bootleg recordings, and as I was thinking about how badly I want a proper live album from this era, I remembered the issues I had with previous live records/DVDs of the band. And I'm not talking about the bonus shows we have with the box sets (and I do hope we have more in the future) or the bonus DVDs from special editions, but standalone releases. Live in Texas: I get it, back in 03 Linkin Park was Warner's favourite band and they had to control everything from the band. The show sounds great, but to sterile, too perfect: Almost no banter, no cuss words, they played like machines, not humans. I get why many people still saying why this record is overdubbed in studio. For me the Veterans Stadium show is what Live in Texas should have been. Not to mention why they decided to cut 5.fucking.songs. from the CD because potato. Road to Revolution: So close, but ruined for some questionable decisions. RTR really sounds much more organic, but they decided to use the cheap trick of cutting songs and putting as bonus tracks. For fuck's sake, you're not an underground band, you have plenty of resources to take the filming crew to other shows in that PR Europe Tour and having other songs as a bonus tracks like In Pieces. If the reason is to make a coherent tracklist between DVD and CD... Just give us the DVD, we will rip off the audio, I don't want a half assed live record, I want the full experience. And by the way. I love collision course, but I would rather prefer the full live version of Faint at the end of the show and save us from that uninteresting half version of Numb/Encore. Again, invite Jay Z to other show and include him as an easter egg. One More Light Live: I get the reason why this album was born, as a Chester tribute. I get the concept behind it: If you're releasing your softest album, you have to put songs akin to that, OSC or The Catalyst would have break the feeling of the album. Maybe it's because I've never connected with One More Light, but I don't know, for me it's like having the chips but not the burger. And that's all, I just wanted to spit some hate on the internet! I understand if you don't agree with me

Some people here though that Already Over hinted the end of Linkin Park, so I'm with you on this one. It worked as a decoy whether Mike likes it or not.

He basically has REAL mental issues and has harassed various people in the past.

Phoenix missed one at least https://linkinpedia.com/wiki/Live:20110923. But Mike none.

I won't complain if they keep that encore for the remainder of the tour

I have the same feeling, before that I completely discarded SS06 as part of the box set. Also, I still think that, despite LP 2.0 and a future album, we will have a box set, although with a limited promo

I would love to have also the CD version in the boxset

When was the exact tour when they really got big?

I don't get it, why releasing a show with a session bass player is such a big deal?

Only the hardcore fans care about Rob. Not that the casual fan despise him at all, it's just as someone gets the job done behind the kit, they don't care who is it.

I agree with you BUT, we should wait a little bit longer, LP2 barely is year and a half old, and I think that releasing anything now would be detrimental for the band. If we've waited 20 years to hear the Rob Drum Song, we can wait too to hear some more stuff with Chester.

Some people took it as "Lost is a mediocre song" but my take was and is that Lost was a huge success due to nostagia and right timing. 20+ years has passed since the nu-metal peak in the mainstream world and now it's "cool" again to reivindicate that genre. 10 years ago that wasn't possible. Second, we millenians we've reached out that age (around 30s) where we start to idealize that music of our youth. I'm a hardcore fan, like many of you, but many of my peers just listened the first two records (three if we count Reanimation) and gave up during MTM because, basically as a teenagers we didn't want anything to do with our "childish music". Which takes me to my third point: The song has this classic LP vibe, so many of those who ignored the band beyond 2007 now they feel connected the band again. That third point didn't happened with She Couldn't, it wasn't your classic LP song, as simple as that. Not even the pandemic helped She Couldn't to have more visibility. Based on this, we have two roads ahead of us: If the new song it's a What I've Done part 2, as Lost was similar to Numb, then yeah, you'll probably have another huge hit, since WID, BIO and New Divide are basically the songs post-2004 that kept the interest of the mainstream crowd. On the other hand, if we're talking about a Blackbirds, In Pieces, No Roads Left esque song, then you're for a big disappointment for the big crowds, and could happen like with She Couldn't, people could care less.

I was fully convinced about having a new box set in 2027, since the band would be fully stablished again. But damn, you're right, another hit like Lost could do more harm than good. It's a tricky situation for sure. So I'm on board with many of you. Anything we can grab: a streaming, a CD/DVD combo we will be grateful for.

But releasing boxsets just from the first two records would give the image that the band only considers worthy those first two and the rest are just forgettable. Not the best image though

Tough question, they have way more demos from the 2005-2007 I believe. And I would dare to say they even have even more songs on more advanced phase, akin to Massive or More the Victim. I think they are gonna have a harder time curating what's in the boxset

Well, we kinda have our 20th anniversary celebration!

Probably legal reasons and no one with lack of self control to accidentally leak it

Why? Sure the touring numbers back up your theory, but I want to understand the reason behind it

What do you mean?

It's weird, for sure. If they had the master tracks they could just have remove the transition without cutting anything. For example, leaving the last scratch on SMSTYM, instead of finish up with the Chester talking sample. These are minor complains, the HT20 case was way worst, but I mean, after spending months preparing this box set, I feel that they could have avoided these issues

So basically the only "real" loss was Easier to Run, right? I mean, the removal of certain transitions is part of the game to make everything run as smooth as possible, and the loss of a couple of seconds of crowd noise in Crawling... I can live with that. But if you cut dialogue for me is a failure. Just my personal take

Link?

What happened exactly with Reseda Beach? Warner just said said "I don't like this stuff" and left SOB with nothing?

Might become their longest tour?

Man, Ryu is one of those unlucky guys, he tried several times but he should have more success