Bliss

All these OML songs and they aren't even playing the best song, It's a shame

Dude, I checked the LPL set before you even added the Papercut part, and it was there. And before you say otherwise, I can see the edit log, and the last edit was 20 minutes before the original post, let alone the edited part.

Dude, I promise Papercut was not there when I looked at it. Don't call me a liar.

Maybe it changed as I was posting in this thread.

I also checked the setlist on Setlist.fm and it didn't have Papercut when I looked at it. Note I looked at the setlist before I found the paper setlist. And yes, it's been over an hour since I looked at the setlist because I went to go eat and that took 45 minutes itself.

 

It is literally in the setlist of which you posted a picture of

And I thought that my eyes are fucked but I saw it correctly....this dude is crazy

Guys, the LPL setlist didn't have Papercut in the setlist. CHILL. I was assuming it was a last minute drop or something when I finally found the picture because LPL didn't have it in the setlist. Usually you guys are 100% on top of things.

 

 

1. Please try and pay attention. The One More Light intro is just that. An intro. It's an a cappella rendition as was mentioned above. It is the same idea as Breaking The Habit's a cappella outro. If you want to complain about a band playing a song twice, go yell at Paramore.

 

2. They didn't cut SIB for a new song? It was replaced by POA. Last I checked, POA came out in 2000. I wouldn't call that new, but that's just me.

 

3. I agree, but that isn't a new development, and most people should have been able to predict that they'd do that, seeing as NEARLY EVERY LEAD SINGLE THE BAND HAS EVER DONE HAS BEEN IN THE ENCORE AT SOME POINT

 

4. Why are you complaining about the North American tour right now? We're 3 shows into a 18 show European tour. There are two sets, with SIB being in one. Even IF LP kept the same sets from the Europe tour for North America, they probably won't, SIB would still be in there.

 

5. You're right, 7-8 songs from OML is a joke. There should be 10.

 

HOLY SHIT THEY ARE! WHAT THE FUCK? IT'S IN THE PICTURE THAT YOU POSTED

 

1. No, it's the same song split into two different parts of the setlist. If it's an intro to OML, play it right before OML. That simple.

2. This was on the assumption they only played 7 HT/M songs which is what LPL's setlist said.

3. That doesn't mean they should do it. The other lead singles actually fit in the encore, Heavy does not.

4. I'm not worried about North America tour overall, I'm worried about my specific show. I have yet to Somewhere I Belong and Breaking the Habit. If I don't see either, I'm going to be very sad. I know people complain about the lack of rotating setlists here but rotating setlists are trash when it affects you directly. I saw the Red Hot Chili Peppers and didn't get to see Dani California (probably my favorite song by them) because it was one of few spots in the setlist they rotated songs. When I found out Portland got it the next night, I was a little irritated. And yes I realize a band doesn't have to do anything for me.

5. 10 songs from one album in a setlist? A whole album in the setlist? I don't need to watch another Bring Me the Horizon. Seen that twice, never again. When a band has a lot of material diversity is key. I could give a lot of examples of artists I have seen live only play 3-4 songs from the album they are promoting. They key thing in common? All these artists have a lot of albums. I think the Carnivores set did it right. They had a fantastic mix of all the albums and didn't overload on one album which helped make the show incredible.

To the all caps: read above. LPL didn't have Papercut in the setlist.

 

We don't have the full setlist yet. Save your complaints until the full set is posted.

 

Why would they drop SIB for the USA tour? There are two sets. We don't even know if it got dropped in the new set. Calm down.

 

OML was just partial acapella to start the show. Same damn thing as if they did a OML acapella intro or outro to OML itself.

 

The Requiem and The Catalyst have the exact same lyrics, both on the album and during the whole ATS tour live and that was never a problem. While I do think it's a lame choice to open with OML a capella, it doesn't bother me that much. Also, SIB was dropped many times before, I guess we didn't see it even once during the ATS era. I agree it's bad to drop Papercut for SE though.

The Requiem is a different song that The Catalyst

 

We don't have the full setlist yet. Save your complaints until the full set is posted.

 

Why would they drop SIB for the USA tour? There are two sets. We don't even know if it got dropped in the new set. Calm down.

 

OML was just partial acapella to start the show. Same damn thing as if they did a OML acapella intro or outro to OML itself.

I think it's fair to assume they could drop SIB for the US tour based on the fact that they just dropped it here.

OML acapella is basically OML lite, play one or the other not both

Edit: Most of my complaints would go away if they actually played Papercut

So I just saw the setlist and I have a lot of complaunts.

It looks like they played One More Light TWICE, that is unacceptable.

Also if I remember right Mike said they wouldn't replace the old songs with songs from the new album. That determined to a lie. How could they drop Somewhere I Belong?!?!?!?!?!?!?

Heavy in the encore is a joke.

If they don't play SIB on the North American tour, I'm going to be so sad.

If they play the same song twice I'm going to lose it. That is NEVER acceptable, why waste space in the setlist?

7 songs from OML is a joke too. Just keep it at 6 and rotate OML songs.

I remember you guys used to edit the OPs with the setlists, would that be possible to start doing again?

Its easier to find it then go to the live guide.

Talking To Myself

I'm surprised that you guys are defending an all-singles* set

EDIT: I realize you probably meant defending the OML setlist but my point still stands.

Up until One More Light Linkin Park was great at choosing singles. HT, M, MTM, and ATS the singles were often the better songs on the album. COG and LITE are the two best songs from LT in my opinion and they were singles. Rebellion and FM were two of the better songs from THP and they were singles. Even GATS was a perfect single for THP and better than the most of the album.

I fully believe Linkin Park was great at choosing singles until this album. Also the setlist now is all singles except Wastelands and OML songs. There is way to do an all singles set list so it turns out amazing and that's what I feel Carnivores did (even if 4 or so songs weren't singles).

Probably the best beginning in recent years. They had a heavy beginning then followed by a soft/calm part and until the end they had a mix. They should have changed the medley with the new LOATR and it would be even better.

I prefer this setlist, even with the shortened songs, over the setlist right know...

I agree with this. I may be biased because I saw this opening live in person but it truely was an amazing start to the show. When it comes to Linkin Park, I think every show should start with energy and end with energy in the encore. This is a Linkin Park setlist I made on my own and outside of the length of the setlist and Don't Stay, it's ac tually a very reasonable setlist that I feel does a good job mixing high energy songs with softer songs as well as starts with energy and ends with engery. https://open.spotify.com/user/123591090/playlist/3jYLnmfJg3Pi6VlKWYJD0G

Remember the piano version of Pushing Me Away is awesome and when it was new everyone liked it and now they do the same with Crawling and I'm fine with this version much better than the short shit in 2014 or 2015!

I just feel like doing the actual version of Crawling will give the set more energy which this current setlist definitely needs.

 

Sure, there are some good songs in there, but Given Up takes such a toll on Chester's voice, the Blackout interlude was highly unnecessary, Runaway was literally a verse and chorus. Then you get to the rest of the set. Ballad Medley was so boring, then you had the Robot Boy instrumental and Joe's solo back-to-back which was a dreadful decision, then you get to that encore, which was essentially a huge medley followed by WID and BIO. That super short LITE was such a waste of one of the best live songs this band has, New Divide is not an encore song, Crawling served no purpose there AND sounded bad, and shortening UIG, the most successful single from their latest album, was a terrible choice. BIO with the drum solo and Catalyst sing-a-long didn't have enough to make it a proper closer, either.

 

This set isn't perfect, and some of my complaints then are still valid now (though it's pretty much just the encore and the inclusion of SIB), but it's a hell of an improvement

If Given Up takes a toll on Chester's voice, maybe he just shortens the long scream. I don't see why the rest of the songs would take a toll that much. I understand he's getting old but I always felt Given Up was a staple that should always be played. Is this the first time since Given Up came out that it's not performed live in a full headlining setlist? I understand it doesn't flow with the album but they can find ways to mix heavy and soft. They have done it before and they can do it again. I actually really, really enjoy they blackout interlude and runaway. Sure, I'd rather have a Meteora song over Runaway as my biggest complaint is the lack of Meteora in the setlist but I love they fact that they brought back songs like Runaway, Points of Authority,, and even parts of With You because they are songs they don't play very often. I do agree that LITE should be played in full (well they all should, just play for a longer time honestly ). And if people complain about SIB eing back in the current etlist, that makes me sad. Easily one of the best songs in the setlist and it deserves to stay. But I can't agree that this setlist is better. I actually enjoy One More Light but this set lacks energy. Most of the time rock shows are better when you can rock. Find away to mix energy with slow songs. Bring back songs like Rebellion, Blackout, Given Up, Wretches and Kings, and Runaway. You still have OML songs and you have energy in the setlist. I think that's why I enjoy Carnivores setlist so much is because even though the songs were shortened it was non-stop energy for 90% of the show. Hell, Living Things is my favorite Linkin Park album which only has 3 songs that are heavy so I'm not a "LP has to be heavy" band but just make the show fun to rock to is all I ask. and don't get me wrong, I don't dislike this current setlist it could just be so much better.

 

 

Problem for me was no one in the crowd knew GATS. Weird way to start a show especially with the muted sound intro into the huge instrumental portion of GATS. Didn't get anyone going, place was a dead standstill. Not enjoyable at all. Blackout is short, Papercut is short, Runaway is short. Not a huge fan of Wastelands. That start to the set didn't do it for me....really disappointing with the short Papercut. Make the songs full and that's much better.

 

The rest of the set beyond that was pretty bad. New set flows a lot better.

 

In THP era, this was great to me:

Papercut, Given Up, Rebellion, POA, OSC, ALITS, FTI. Wow, what a start.

 

Other memorable ones:

2012: APFMH, Given Up, Faint, With You, Runaway, FTI, SIB

2007 (my favorite): Wake, Given Up, NMS, LFY, Don't Stay, SIB, FTI, Papercut, POA

 

I basically stated all my opinions replying to the quote above this one but I just wanted to say that you do have valid points. I know personally at my show people were rocking to GATS and the crowd was non-stop energy. Songs being full length would have been better but I wouldn't drop any of the songs they were playing. I wish Linkin Park could play longer like some large name acts who have been around forever do.

2012 and 2007 had amazing openers as well. I have no complaints about those and would have loved to see them in 2007. Auburn, WA was the first stop of the Project Revolution tour with MCR and I'm sad because I didn't go to concerts back then

They should play Crawling as it is on the record so they have at least one more heavy track....Otherwise...they get ripped at Hellfest for sure with this setlist.

Yep, won't surprise me if they almost get booed off the stage at Hellfest

If Linkin Park had the Carnivores setlist they would be fine at Hellfest but now, nah.

Or Hellfest should have made them play HT in full

Not even close. Putting Catalyst in as a "super meh live" song discredits anything else you wrote But seriously, in no way is this worse than some of the ATS sets or THP Carnivores sets. They FINALLY changed up the usual order of songs (bring Catalyst, BID, Castle way up to the front, LOATR at the end etc.), and the first part of the set DOES have a ton of energy, it's just not the usual run of "SUPER DISTORTED GUITAR" songs to kick things off.

What?!?!?!?!?

The Hunting Party setlist was nearly perfectly. Just add in Breaking the Habit and play Castle of Glass (Studaio version) and you have basically a perfect setlist.

I'm not sure how anyone can defend the opinion that the 2014 setlists, specifically on Carnivores Tour, were better than the current setlist. It is an absolute relief to be in an era where the setlists don't contain shortened songs everywhere, striptease versions, random rap verses here and there, instrumentals everywhere, etc. Those are miserable shows. 2015 fixed a lot of it, but not all of it. Right now we are just dealing with a barely shortened Catalyst and the LITE version is longer than the one I saw in 2014.

 

We are getting more full songs in this current setlist JUST from the back catalogue, excluding new songs from OML. If you hate OML, you are getting a full headlining setlist regardless. Take all the OML songs out and you're at still a longer setlist than the headlining shows in the Meteora era.

Am I hipster then? Carnivores setlist was basically perfect. SO so so much more engery than the setlusts now which is what these sets are lacking and decrease the quality in my opinion. They balanced high energy and heavy songs with softer songs perfectly. They could easily do it again.I actually like OML so them playing songs from it doesn't bother me but taking out songs like Given Up and Rebellion have drastically decreased the quality of the set. And just play Crawling normally for crying out loud.

Like Linkin Park could never start a set better than this ever:

01. Mashup Intro #2

02. Guilty All The Same

03. Given Up

04. Points Of Authority

05. One Step Closer

06. Blackout

07. Papercut

08. Rebellion

09. Runaway

10. Wastelands

Ten straight heavy hitting bangers!

TALKING TO MYSELF

If Sorry For Now doesn't get top 2, LPL needs better taste

Y'all voting for SFN are insane... I know Nick's reasonings are already corrupt

 

Nobody Can Save Me.

Nothing new so far

Wastelands is the weakest song in the set besides the OML songs.

This. So many better choices from THP.

Please no..

 

Don't kill the last ounce of THP representation on this set.

I'd rather kill that song than any of the HT/M/MTM/ATS songs they play

You mean One More Light

One More Light is my second favorite.

Both songs have already made it into my top 10 LP songs of all time.

My guess is full set but they change a few things. Dropping something like Crawling for Sharp Edges.

Then a second set somewhere with more heavy stuff.

Mike said the new songs won't replace the old songs.

Get rid of Wastelands for Sharp Edges

Or get rid of another OML for Sharp Edges.

Keep Crawling.

INVISIBLE

Sorry For Now is easily the best song, what are you guys smoking

Invisible.

Tomorrow we shall unite and purge Nobody can save me!

You mean Talking To Myself

INVISIBLE

Ban everyone saying Sharp Edges. WAY WAY WAY better than Invisible that should have been eliminated second

Just read this entire post. Well written and very insightful.

Good job! I'm excited to see what the presumably new setlist will be

THP didn't get to #1...why do you think that is? Do you notice any differences between that record and OML? Get real man, they made a pop record so they could get on top 40 radio and make a bunch of money. It's painfully obvious.

It went #3 because Linkin Park released the same week as Lana Del Rey and Sam Smith. Both two highly successful artists.

Any other week and THP would have gone #1.

Obviously Linkin Park didn't care enough to push their release date back.

One time Kanye Chesney released against Kanye West and 50 Cent and said "Bring on the challenge." He then proceeded to go #3 when his albums usually go #1. It happens.

Congrats to Linkin Park

http://hitsdailydouble.com/sales_plus_streaming Just have to wait for the official Billboard list on Monday but OML ending up passing Kendrick to go #1!!!!!

That was a fantastic performance I thought.

Chester sounded on point!

I wish they would have played Sorry For Now instead of Invisible and played One More Light instead of Good Goodbye or Battle Symphony though.

Other than that, no complaints!

Official setlist for anyone who wants to look at it:

1. Numb

2. Invisible

3. Burn It Down

4. Heavy

5. In the End

6. Talking to Myself

7. Battle Symphony

8. New Divide

9. Good Goodbye

10. Leave Out All the Rest

11. Somewhere I Belong

12. What I've Done

http://www.setlist.fm/setlist/linkin-park/2017/the-chelsea-las-vegas-nv-23e7d81b.html

I figured they would switch it up for the album release show but I guess not.

What was the setlist for this show?