MrSAI

I found Forgotten: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YONCaYmWalg

Remember the Name? Well, that was a true surprise!

WUT

It's certainly ambitious of them to play CoG live this way!

Is there a part 2 / 3 to this?

Interesting. So there's now THREE versions of this song floating around that we know of...

It's definitely strange, but it has certainly been known to happen. Labels have different "final mixes" floating around and perhaps sometimes the one that serves as the album version was a mistake; perhaps the band didn't like the version of SOTD in MTM? There's an alternate version of Weezer's "Say It Ain't So" with a different guitar solo (but everything else identical) for example... In the LP world, there are alternate masters (which also include the mix, of course) but I'm not sure of their varying states of release: i.e. Somewhere I Belong with additional synth during chorus + Pushing Me Away with additional backing vocals. I know I did hear at the time of Meteora's release that the sound now missing from BTH was never meant for the final mix, and was there as a timing aid for the string section. Could be wrong, as I don't see it written anywhere on the web.

I completely agree, there is definitely more limiting on all of these "deluxe" albums; part of the reason that Across The Line / No Roads Left / Blackbirds sound better, because they had virtually none before. I bought all the albums on HDTracks last year, and they sound identical to these masters. CD is so much better. Minutes to Midnight is filled with many subtle differences, but primarily the ones everyone else has noticed. A Thousand Suns... No difference. EDIT: HOLY S**T... This so-called "new" version of Shadow of the Day is the same as the HDTracks master from LAST YEAR

Hybrid Theory differences - Papercut - No difference - One Step Closer - No difference. Intro guitar looped? It was before, but more obvious now - With You - No difference - Points of Authority - Synth during chorus more prominent, VERY minor difference - Crawling - "ping pong" percussion in bridges quieter, with less reverb - Runaway - No difference - By Myself - Synth during chorus is more prominent, but again very minor difference - In The End - More limiting. Effects on Mike's vocals sound "worse" - A Place For My Head - No difference - Forgotten - No difference - Cure For The Itch - More limiting, clipping during the last "chorus" section. Sounds nasty. - Pushing Me Away - Mike's vocal double sounds louder? "space invader" style percussion is MUCH quieter. Bass sounds a fair bit louder to me, too. Overall... Master is louder, definitely limited more, but somehow clearer. Most differences can be put down to either compression (file / audio) and limiting. I have compared with a few other mixes of the album, and this is definitely the original album mix. Meteora has almost no difference, but I am 99% sure this master is the same one that HDTracks used for their 24bit release of Meteora last year. Louder, limited. Less dynamic range. Session suffers the most with this, in my opinion. The only differences I could here were... Breaking The Habit: "high pitched" noise could be heard on every bar. In this version, it is lowered a LOT, to the point where I can no longer hear it without listening on high quality headphones. Lying From You: "Space Invaders" sample is slightly lower

I've been doing a thorough comparison and there are indeed a lot of differences, mainly in Minutes to Midnight, but also Meteora. Haven't noticed any changes in Hybrid Theory yet, though I've heard about 4-6 different mixes of that album already. It all sounds the same now

I noticed a different in "Breaking The Habit" In the original mix / master, a very audible "high pitched" noise could be heard on every bar. In this version, it is lowered a LOT, to the point where I can no longer hear it without listening on high quality headphones. Interesting... EDIT: The "Space Invader" samples in Lying From You have also been lowered very slightly.

And here's a Mediafire Mirror... Also ripped from iPlayer. http://www.mediafire.com/?3rc8at94g2dfvid

Wow, they're airing some seriously good stuff!

Shamu? The Killer Whale? Hmmm...

Any chance of the 300dpi TIFF Artwork?

New improved 1920x1080 desktops... Black White Much better overall quality. Hopefully you like

1920x1080 Desktop Version

Mike lurks LPL so he's bound to see this. To be completely honest I doubt he cares if this gets out, and if I were him I would actually be happy about it. He seems like the kind of guy who would appreciate his fans being able to listen to his work in a more intimate way, and I have a sneaking feeling the new album will feature something like this (but on a smaller scale) We shall see

UPC is 054391982995 and is legit

I was at the very front of the "Golden Circle" for the entire show, which was cool. One thing I distinctly remember is at the very end of LP's set the dude next to me (who was with a friend or two) found a copy of the set-list. He said something to the effect of "We thought we wouldn't find anything, but we did it, we found the set-list!" Was that someone here?

Something else you may find interesting...

It's not that rare is it? I've got the 24bit 96khz (3.4gb) version sitting here

Right... It seems the MP3 I had (from LPR) was in mono for whatever reason. I've just checked the actual MP3 contained within the iPad and iPhone versions of the game and they are indeed exactly the same and definitely in stereo. If anybody wants the best rip available all you need to do is unzip the IPA file and the MP3s are all there for the taking, no encoding etc required

I've also found that the beat and guitar parts are all looped, only the vocals and strings are "live". You can in fact copy and paste the instrumental part over Chester's verse and get something of an acapella, though because of the compression / limiters used on the final mix it isn't perfect.

The version I've got is ripped straight from the file, and it's stereo but both channels have exactly the same audio data. When you invert them together all you get is silence. This makes me think it was intentional, as the iPhone only has one speaker... Maybe the iPad version is stereo?