Fleur de Lys

For all I said about the reasons not to do a livestream, I just watched the video there, and ironically I think this was Emily’s single best vocal performance with LP yet. Maybe they should have done a livestream..! I’m not just talking about the full 16-second scream on HITC, which was… wow. Her harsh vocals are so effortless in this show, like the pressure of doing Wembley and stadiums is finally off. The high notes on the Cut The Bridge chorus are really pitching great here (otherwise a hard song for her), her general pitch is more on point throughout the set, the screams on OSC and Faint, but also on Bleed It Out: the bridge scream has Mike go: “God Damn”… also her end note on the last chord of the song was so impactful and rock and roll, and it has been a little hit and miss before. What an amazing thing to see, her base-level of performance is so high already, but she can take it even further. Wild stuff.

Fan-recorded YouTube videos are a lot more forgiving than a direct soundboard-mix streamed live. A lot of bad notes, voice cracks, wrong notes on the instruments are lost in the more chaotic sound of a amateur recording. It's about control. With how much (unfair) shit directed at Emily's abilities online, they don't want a festival's livestream to potentially give more fuel to the haters. Live streams can be notoriously dry and revealing for artists. Personally, I think the biggest risk (and maybe mistake) LP took, was opening their comeback with the livestream. And this one was even completely within their own control. Very bold and risky. I respect that, but damn... It did a lot of damage to Emily's reputation as a live performer, straight off the bat. She was so (understandably) nervous - the ironic thing is, that she in many ways is a more consistent, on-key singer than Chester ever was, and she delivers a lot of those old raspy choruses more in line with the studio performance than Chester did for years. But for a lot of people, they just heard her nervously force and voice crack her way through the older songs on that initial livestream, and they made up their minds about her right there.

Yes, that part was sooo frustrating. What a level of incompetence it takes to not hit the cue on the outro of The Catalyst... Just knowing that I, as a fan, could have done a better job of pushing that button lol The problem is, at the end of a day, stuff like that just reflects on the artist. Makes them look like a joke for a second. I'm not saying this was super serious or anything, but come on.

Yes, exactly. I think your explanation is probably spot on, there needs to be that disconnect first. I'm sure the inde-wave will truly hit around the end of this decade, yes. But it's pretty wild, you can see that same thing happen with movie franchises, gaming etc. Why did the Oblivion remaster hit so hard right now? Released in 2006 of course.

Well I think what is playing out here is what I call the 20-year rule. It takes around two decades for nostalgia to really hit and for stuff to come around and become really cool again. The Y2K and nu-metal comeback in recent years speaks for itself. Meteora is right in that zone now, so an opener like Somewhere I Belong will just hit different at this moment. I've seen it with lots of artists. Metallica also really returned to their early thrash material around mid-00s, two decades after their classic albums and they wrote back-to-the-roots Death Magnetic. It was like the culture was just screaming for it. I think LP is in a similar spot right now.

Fair enough, Central European. Still, dude had low emotional intelligence and it’s kinda funny

I would guess that it is Emily who is sick just from the vagueness of their post. They chose to not be specific about who and what exactly to not feed the internet/media hate.

Looked good. Interesting how Dave's bass was off from the bridge onwards in Casualty. Seems the bass is on a backing track for that song for some reason and it was off.

It's so funny how some Eastern European interviewers just go ahead and ask the most brash and insensitive questions right to their faces... But on the other side, it cuts to the chase and the answers will be less vague. Just a little uncomfortable to watch lol

Shout out to Joe Hahn for his last-second save on In The End’s intro! So close to hitting that extra piano note 😅

Nope. The old band played arenas with very few exceptions. Amphitheatres in the US (less capacity than the Arena tour of 25). Never Wembley, never Stade de France, never Berlin Olympiastadion, not two stadiums in Sao Paulo.

Yes, I love that bridge! The heavy riffs and the screaming "Like thiiiiiis"

I kind of get the feeling that the song is about a life change, more specifically a graduation of some sorts. Which is kind of less heavy than what a majority is gonna assume hah “saying congratulations”, “terrified of what’s next”, the wild empty feeling of freedom/emptiness at the party: “20 hours no sleep/lying there on the street” “supposed to feel different, why do I feel the same”. Won’t let your friends fade no matter where life takes them. But ofc LP songs are very ambiguous so who really knows. Could be about Chester, could be multiple things.

I think it’s cool how LP manages to feel fresh this many albums in. The chords and melodies of this song is somewhere they’ve never really been before. It‘s a pretty original sound on this one… pretty experimental but still catchy and earnest. Probably one of my faves of From Zero as a whole

How the hell is Lying You From... Years and years of fan forum conditioning using these abbreviations don't go away easy. Getting out of hand lol

Show looked absolutely electric from that video. Band is tight af and Emily sounded amazing. The tight festival set might not be bad for a general audience, more bangers and less space in between the heavy stuff. Also, it’s fun to go to the Sonic Temple fb page and Reddit and find the LP posts. So many skeptics turned fans, saying best show of the festival, better than Metallica etc. They’re gonna blow people’s expectations completely on the upcoming festival run.

Maybe this set will have Let You Fade after release? And that’s why it’s so similar to the others at this point…

Yes, it's true. Alex palm mutes more than Brad did live on specific parts, maybe a little more than the studio versions too. I don't mind it for most songs, but on APFMH, it does sound kind of wrong. Tho I think he did ease off a little bit in recent performances, which is good, but it's still a little too much imo

Yes. He will probably play around with different stuff for that part from night to night

Did you guys notice that Mike played "One" by Metallica over the intro of Overflow? So cool! Love to see a little tribute

Hm? Can you point to specific parts? I would say the only difference between Brad and Alex on Papercut (and APFMH) is that he palm mutes more than Brad. Anyway, Alex is objectively a way tighter player than Brad was in his later years. Go watch the Birmingham 2017 show on YouTube, Brad is out of time large parts of the show. Seemed he cared less and less (he was a lot more in the pocket in the early years). If there's anything I'm having to get used to, it's Colin's more free approach to the drum parts. I think I appreciate Rob's playing more and more for LP, because he was so tight and true to the underlying programmed drums - giving LP more of that HipHop inspired feel to the rhythm section. Colin is more of a typical rock player imo

Some great screams on Given Up and Heavy Is The Crown at Tulsa (she did the full one)!

One thing I have been enjoying is actually Dave's playing. He is just doing more improvising, throwing in licks here and there. He didn't used to as much with the old band. You can tell that he is a real bass-player and not just a guitarist playing bass. It's not often you really get to hear that in LP (other than his solid technique), so it's really cool.

That's fair enough. I remember those mess-ups, some of them have been pretty loud and funny (infuriating for Mike, maybe). But if I was the musician, I just would not like if people were tracking my mistakes for years. I get that you've done it in the spirit of archiving as much data as possible, but it's just a little inconsistent considering how many small screw ups the rest of the band does. For instance, Colin missed a snare hit at the end of Faint yesterday too. Phoenix played extra notes on the first verse of Two Faced today. There'd be a lot to track. Also considering Joe might pretty much be personally responsible for setting LP 2.0 in motion 😅 We owe him alot, we should give the guy a break

Why is LPLive always tracking Joe's mistakes in show notes? It's always been puzzling to me considering that everyone in the band makes mistakes and most of them are not tracked. Alex played a wrong chord last week in Mexico. Phoenix hits wrong notes too. Emily forgets words. It seems awfully arbitrary and weirdly mean to be following Joe's mistakes so closely. Is it really show note material? A band makes mistakes...? Yea, they actually play live. I'm genuinely curious what the reason is here. Can someone explain?