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51 minutes ago, sordomuda said:

I only remember that Mike once has said they are not looking for a new vocalist to replace him but i think he meant at that moment not in general. 

I want LP to continue as a 5 piece only without replacing Chester at all. But that’s just me. At least Sean won’t replace him in Grey Daze.

I love that Sean said they aren’t replacing Chester. Wish LP had the brass balls to say it like he did. Sean is a true friend.

I just pre-ordered the physical single. And free sticker. Was dirt cheap and for collection purposes.

Hate to ask again martinez but I never downloaded this on January 4th when I asked cuz I got so busy with life. Can you reupload one more time, even through PM if you don't want to here?

On 1/28/2013 at 5:32 PM, Hahninator said:

The sound on the LPU Tour was so weird and bassy...band sounded really odd to me. Can't recommend any shows from that tour as I just don't really like the sound on the whole tour. Must have been the new LP gear with the small venues. The pro audio sounds good but the fan audio doesn't sound good at least to me. It sucks because the crowds on the entire tour are going absolutely. fucking. nuts.

The LPU tour is actually amazing man. San Francisco 2003 is one of the best from 3/23/03. Sounds fine to me. I think the US leg of it was even better than the European one. You had Detroit 2003 which was filmed and is badass. You have good shows like St. Louis, NYC, San Francisco, etc. Worcester was cool, too. San Francisco 3/23/03 is my favorite show of 2003 (Reading would be if the recording was DSP).

This tour was so legendary. It sucks we didn't get any DSP's from it besides Milton Keynes, which was later released as a CD/DVD by the band anyways. All the recordings from this tour sound terrible, too. Sucks. Might be the best tour they have ever done for MTM.

On 2/21/2017 at 4:12 AM, Astat said:

Stick and Move, Sad, Oh No, Grr, Chair - "Transitional period" demos, given their minimal instrumentation definitely took place in the post-Mark era and possibly even prior to Chester joining. Late 1998-Early 1999? Lumping these all together but may have come from a fairly varied period.

How do you know they are from before Chester joined though?

Need Providence not on EZ torrent, need it on a normal site.

On 1/16/2020 at 2:20 PM, JZLP said:

Seems like I'm the only fan of this project 

 

I love this new version, the production might not be great but it has the vibe of the 90s.

 

The drums sound weird like programmed drums but the song has a lot of emotion

 

Huge fan of Grey Daze so anything new by them it's gold to me

 

Where's Lestat? 

JZLP, you were always a huge fan of Grey Daze though, maybe the biggest on the site next to Lestat. So for you, this project is probably very awesome. Like, I’ve always been a huge fan of the original DBS stuff and if they did something like this with the original DBS demos, I would probably love it. So I feel you.

The 2002 remaster version sounds a lot better.

11 minutes ago, sordomuda said:

This mash up looks fake af i have to agree. When was the first time Mike came up with a mash up live? 

I think the hip-hop medley in 2004.

Can't confirm anything but IMO it's definitely fake, whatever it is you're talking about. LP didn't play Crawling at all in 2000 that we know about so I highly doubt it was played. And I'm not saying that it couldn't happen but the whole mash-up thing doesn't seem like something they would do in 2000, either. Seems like a set that a fan would make up of old school stuff.

25 minutes ago, OKCrew said:

Maybe I’m alone in this but I make clear distinctions in my mind between Mashups, Medleys, and DJ sets, even if there is some overlap between them at times. To me, Medleys, as one cohesive piece, move from one song to the next like the Hip-Hop and Ballad Medleys do respectively. DJ sets are what Mike and Joe’s “solos” were during the Carnivore tour blending and interweaving several studio tracks together live. Mashups are when you layer a core element of one clear song over a core element of another clear song, like when Mike raps a FM or HT verse over the intro or bridge of another distinct song. What made RTN/WFTE stand out to me among anything else they’ve done was that not only where they putting one song’s lyrics over another song’s music, they also blended the music, syncing the RTN strings with the WFTE synth and drums, which iirc was a new trick and then something Mike started doing a lot more of it during PTT

 

EDIT e.g. It’s the same thing that makes Jigga What/Faint stand out from the rest of CC because it’s the only one that actually blends musical elements of both songs

Fantastic post. Learned a lot here. Jigga What/Faint is also my favorite track off of CC so it’s cool to know that, I never realized that fully.

Release Bucket Of Weenies in 2006 Source 3

3 hours ago, sordomuda said:

I understand its always annoying to have songs cut instead of hearing them in full but with each album they are having more and more singles to play as well as other songs so they are doing what they can to play as many songs as fans would like to hear. LP is not the only performer who is doing medleys/ cutting songs. 

I just didn’t like the shortened songs mostly. The only one they kept like that was LITE in 2017. But it was still a lot of the song unlike in 2014. Don’t mind the medley stuff at all, never have. 

Also, not every single they released before Chester died was a massive hit. Sure, some were popular, but some mainstream listeners might not have known every single ever released even. Hell, as long as LP was playing ITE and Numb, that covered most bases for some. But they played most of them and didn’t need to shorten songs at all. Just my opinion. I read that Mike wanted the set in 2014 to flow like a DJ set so that’s why they did it and kept it but who knows. It doesn’t work good for a rock band like LP. I’d prefer if they just have like a 22-23 song with just full songs.

39 minutes ago, OKCrew said:

They also were def getting more creative with the mashups. My favorite part of OML Europe was RTN/WFTE because they had actually mashed up the music and beats of both songs, rather than just having Mike rap a verse from one song over another. All of a sudden the Post-Traumatic tour had a lot of that going on like Papercut/About You etc.

The mash ups weren’t bad. They started those basically in 2012 with ballad medley, victimized/Qwerty and LFY/Papercut. But the OML tour ones were cool too. THP set was weird, the 2014 one. Didn’t like those shortened songs and medley type things back then. They also of course had the hip hop medley in 2004. OML tour was a creative set. 

8 hours ago, OKCrew said:

 

 

This makes so much sense. When I first heard all three of those songs my first thought was "holy shit this is folk music, LP-style." They've always been strong lyrically, but the particularly simple depth of the lyrics here along with the melodies of the vocals immediately gives off a folksy vibe.

Yeah it’s super interesting. It’s cool you could hear the folk influence in them when you heard them. Chester said about Skin To Bone that it ‘’started off as a hippie folk song’’. And I remember the band also saying that COG and RU also took big inspiration from folk. LT is a very interesting album that is always overlooked by fans. It has tons of scrapped ATS ideas turned into full songs (they basically become their own songs not even really compatible to the ATS ideas so you almost can’t even really call them ATS ideas even though they kind of are.) It has big electronic sound, then some folk sound mixed in on a few tracks, a bizarre combo. Then you have songs with rapping, screaming, mid tempo type stuff. It’s a really experimental album actually. It’s not ATS but it’s up there as one of their most experimental efforts ever, probably right behind ATS honestly, it’s just different in terms of experimentation. A song like UIB is super creative, like I’m surprised they even did something like that nowadays. Tinfoil into Powerless, originally being a full song, that’s one of my favorite moments on any record from LP, Powerless is one of my favorite songs of all time and a fantastic closer. Victimized is so short and jarring that it’s almost like KTTK but shorter. It also samples some guy selling bootleg merch somewhere in rural Asia outside of their show, I mean if that’s not epic, idk what is. That’s super experimental. A lot of fans don’t like it but I love it, it’s so awesome to me. Then you have huge songs like IMR, IBG, BID, that are just these fantastic big rock sounding songs that sound like anthems even though they weren’t that popular aside from BID. LITE is also a jewel in their discography. It brings back the old LP structure but done with electronics and interesting shit. It’s just a great album. And I’d love to be able to hear all the demos of the 12 songs (or 11 cuz of Tinfoil/Powerless). Three Band Terror was an amazing one to get. Holding Company was a jam. Primo is simply amazing, etc. 

7 hours ago, xeroboi said:

Was the lpu12 demo before the 9 tracks one?

For Rhinestone you’re saying? Apparently it’s identical to the 9 track version, just a better quality. Some of the other ones from the era such as ITE, Esaul and POA from LPU12 all have a slight difference, though. 

1 minute ago, sordomuda said:

I’m glad Chester has joined the band because Mark was nothing special and they would get Lost with him in the crowd easily. I am glad they decided to work with this demo until they got the final version because this song trully got something in it from the very beginning. 

Yeah I mean Chester was like a God compared to him but everyone already knew that, even Mike would agree. 

Rhinestone is epic! It's about time we get to hear it. Just an old ass demo from '98 with Mark anyways I doubt Mike would even care that hardcore fans got to hear it, especially since it was on a music sampler CD.

2 hours ago, blackout said:

I don't know why but I have a feeling that they'd play Halfway Right and/or Sorry For Now. I remember the live stream with Mike on Instagram in which he thought that they did play Halfway Right live when he was asked about the song. I think that Mike was the brains behind LP setlists and maybe he already planned the setlist/setlists for this tour. The comeback of setlists rotation would be cool too, actually. I know they rotated old songs (APFMH, FTI, SIB) on the OML European Tour but I mean something more like in 2008 with different openings, encores, etc. I hope they'll do it more often when/if they come back. This was always an intriguing point for me after Chester's passing but I guess we'll never know.     

Maybe they would have. But who knows. We have seen with many tours for the albums that usually save a couple songs to debut later in the cycle. Keep in mind, OML’s touring cycle would have been well into 2018, maybe even some of 2019. But definitely into 2018. I think we would have got a longer touring cycle than LT, which was the shortest one ever for the band. They saved BTH to debut late in 2003, basically 2004. They saved VD and IB from MTM until 2008, Blackout and BITS weren’t played at any of the first 3 ATS tours it wasn’t until Australia tour 2010. They were planning on debuting IBG in 2013 and basically only starting playing COG in 2013 (I know they played it at two little shows in December 2012). ALITS was saved until the later half of 2015 and it seems like the band was debating playing KTTK in 2015 too as we know. So really I think they would have been saved. Maybe SFN. But I think HW would have been saved or maybe never played. Really because it was so personal to Chester’s early life with drugs and stuff and cuz it was such a deep cut on the album. SFN was planned as a single in September 2017 which was when the US tour had a month break. Which is why I said maybe Asia 2017 in November they would have played it, but possible the west coast shows in October once the tour picked back up. 

What do you guys think would have been the setlist for this tour if it hadn't been cancelled and Chester didn't do what he did? There was a rumored Metallica cover for MGK's set so I don't think that would matter for the LP set. I think maybe the Rock Werchter set minus a song or two, or add a song or two. Depending. Don't think SFN or HW would have debuted in the tour, maybe in 2018 they would have, or Asia 2017. As far as older songs from before OML coming back for the tour, I don't think any would have for this tour. I think they would work with all the songs played so far in 2017.

1 hour ago, RYG4R said:

We need more acoustic/folk tracks from the band in the vein of Devil's Drop, Primo, Three Band Terror, Final Masquerade (acoustic), The Messenger and Sharp Edges. I would love to see that as a direction for them to explore more hopefully in the future. 

There were probably a bunch during the LT era that never made the cut. They were experimenting with tons of folk stuff and even were listening to the Smithsonian folk soundtrack at one point for inspiration. Supposedly, COG, RU and STB were all folk songs originally, too.

5 minutes ago, lpfan12 said:

Reading comment's seeing some desperate people hungry for the demo. Won't y'all let the admins do what is right or do what they gotta to do.

The fuck you talkin’ about? Been mad long now and no release. We aren’t getting it. Nobody is even talking about it anymore anyways. Haven’t got like 2 weeks.

14 minutes ago, SerioDrew said:

 

That's true that sound was solid, they could have released an EP of that era.

Are there more songs from that era released or leaked? (except the ones featured in the movie and the soundtrack)

Maybe "Change" are "Truth Inside A Lie" from LPU13 Sessions and "Can't Hurt Me" from LPU16 are from that era. Any other ideas?

Yeah the only other one from that era was Worlds On Fire but that appeared on Mikes album. There are some incomplete songs from that Hybrid Party thing but as far as full songs I think those are it.