Geki

I'd say you are right about everything except that Stick N Move SHOULD be a demo title for Runaway, IMO. It's on an official LP release and is labeled as a Runaway demo. Whether it sounds like Runaway or not doesn't mean that it wasn't a demo for Runaway at one point.

Yeah, I ordered both of those from Europe when they came out. I don't mind ordering from Europe for alternate editions, etc. I just wish we knew what the DVD was. I mean there should be some form of a description of it. Adam knows what it is, he just can't say, I don't think. Maybe LP hasn't decided what the DVD will be yet exactly? If Adam knows then they must have decided... Idk.

The CD/DVD will come out the day before the Download show even takes place. Lol. I'd rather have LP just released a live album of it later in the year, a CD/DVD, it'd be too epic of a show to not do that worldwide with an album. Adam says it's not a making of DVD. Hmm. I am going to wait and see what it actually is first before I order. I will probably end up buying it for my collection purposes.

There has to be a way that we can all find out what is on the DVD.

Dude, listen to some metal bands. Classic metal or current metal. LP has barely ever scratched the surface. No More Sorrow and Guilty All The Same are probably the only tracks I can think of that are close. I don't call songs like Given Up or stuff from Hybrid Theory or Meteora actual metal music, maybe you do though, which is ok.

WTF. I might actually order the Euro CD/DVD now. I have 30 bucks. I need the DVD. No idea why the US version wouldn't just have the CD/DVD in the deluxe package instead of the regular CD, very odd.

Maybe there actually is no making of DVD with this album after all? I was worried about that. I was thinking to myself the other day, maybe LP thinks that there is no point for a making of DVD anymore because they can just upload stuff on YouTube through LPTV, etc, or do something similar to what they did with Inside Living Things.

Same. 54.99 is not a bad price. I paid 100 dollars for the MTM deluxe package and the ATS deluxe package. Granted, we got more with those packages, but I like the lithograph and the shirt.

Good, about time. LP slaughters almost any other rock band nowadays.

Yes, that is for international orders. US orders should be fine he says. It's already been fixed.

Haha very true about the Panic At The Disco joke. Yeah, No Roads Left But One would have been a bad title.

Damn. Never looked at it in that aspect..

I think the issues here is that people are comparing Until It's Gone with Guilty All The Same and the other heavy songs and stuff that will be on the album. We already knew that there would be a few ''slower'' songs on the album and Derek's review basically confirmed that this was going to be a moody, slower style track. Of coarse LP wants to put out this song for a single, it sounds like it could be a hit with the mainstream. The album will most likely sound drastically different from Until It's Gone. LP does this stuff all the time! Fans of MTM, ATS & LT probably enjoy Until It's Gone a lot, but there will definitely be tons of heavier shit for the old school LP fans on the album, trust me on that.

100% agree with this, even though I love LT and these 2 HP tracks. The whole new album every 2 years thing is stupid; that is a product of the fans bitching nonstop that LP doesn't release records fast enough.

Ok, I just don't get why LP fans are expecting a metal album when LP have never made anything that sounds like metal, not even GATS at all.

Of coarse, Linkin Park is probably the biggest offender in mainstream music. Which is fine with me. It's just hysterically funny to see people complaining that the song ''isn't heavy'' or ''visceral'' and it sounds like ''disney music'' and pop music, so irritating. THEY ARE MAINSTREAM. People are aware that LP has made plenty of pop rock songs that were very successful, right?

I agree with you

Hahahaha.

No way man. Meteora is so deep and the songs are sooooo good. Nu-metalzzzz.

Yeah, you're right. Nu-metalz rulez d00d.

Hybrid Theory & Meteora are fucking terrible compared to ANYTHING the band has done on MTM, ATS, LT & probably all of THP. I like Hybrid Theory & Meteora for the nostalgia factor and because they are fun to listen to. But if you think the lyrics and songs are actually better songs than the songs on MTM, ATS, LT & probably all of THP.... I don't even know.

Well, this thread has turned into a bitchfest.

I think we should wait to judge the album once we can all listen to it in it's entirety. But anyways, did you really think LP would make an album that was metal? Hard rock is about as far as LP will go in that direction. Going full on metal would piss off a lot of LP fans and the label wouldn't let them most likely, because it wouldn't make Warner enough $$$$. Just saying it how it is.

I don't know about that, this song kind of reminds me of a heavier MTM track. This is a really good song, though. I like it a lot. The melodies are great and the synth is probably my favorite part of the track.

I've had LP cancel on me before. It sucks. Sorry for you, that must suck even more.