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43 minutes ago, BartBart91 said:

 

He also mixed The Hunting Party.

I did not know that. Wow, Wtf?

11 minutes ago, BartBart91 said:

 

Which two versions of Lost are you referring to? I only know of one that was officially released on LP's YouTube channel. Do you mean the version from the concert in Sao Paulo?

I think he is refering to the M20 versions of the song. We got the officially released version which got remixed for the release of M20, and there is the original Andy Wallace mix from 2002 (which only got included on the CD version of M20 for whatever stupid reasons).

Great performance! Great video!

I really like the emphasized integration of Alex in these. He deserves some attention (and I thought it was funny as hell).

6 minutes ago, xxHybridXeroxx said:

My rant wasn’t directed towards you, it was more so towards the situation in general. It’s becoming extremely frustrating to read all the comments on socials and shit, to the point where I lashed out. Do I find it odd that they don’t mention Chester and try to distance themselves from that era? Of course I do. Do I blame them? Not really. Because the way I see it, they probably don’t want to be accused of milking him, because his toxic ass family has already said that. Do I wish they would mention him? Of course! It’s just so exhausting to me to see all the discourse about the band and the fighting between people over it all over the internet. It’s like, over the past few days I’ve thought once or twice “I wish they hadn’t come back” because of how exhausting it’s all been. It’s gotten to the point now where I can’t even listen to LP without thinking about everything. I really just wish the press would quit fanning the flames and that the people attacking the band would move on. 

No worries, I didn't take it personal. And I agree with Fleur, that Chester's ex-wife and his son are probably a big reason on why they handle it the way they do. I understand that and hate the fact aswell. But no one in this thread is blaming the band or anything. We are a good community generally, fortunately, and far away from social media outbursts of these lunatics out there.

To me, having LYF as the last bonus track on the album being a final nod to Chester (without naming him or anything) would have been the perfect send-off to this whole topic. A final goodbye and off to a totally Chester-unrelated future. That's it. No blame or anything. And it sucks that you have to "feel bad" about that according to some.

Yeah, some of you are becoming quite unhinged. Wow. Quit acting like this is some Facebook comment section where people are shouting "Chester Forever!!!". No one in this thread came forward with anything super extraordinary or urgent "demands" or even HATE towards the band. We are talking about a nod, a mention, something like that here and there and it gets perceived as if people are trashing the band and their decisions. You know what? If you can't deal with different opinions or feelings from fans then that is your problem. It's always the same people who become the bands lawyers if you even dare to "criticize" (for lack of a better word, don't get worked up again, please...) or point out something that you find odd. Talk about a parasocial relationship.

11 minutes ago, Soeffingnaive92 said:

There's no blame on the band, just notice that done this way feels a bit dry, like, imagine just Mike go "This was Chester's fav song so make some noise for him" before Papercut, that would be nice without being "too much". 

Stop being so selfish and blaming, dude!

/s

36 minutes ago, LPLStaff said:

That's what Looking For An Answer is, from the Hollywood Bowl. And they originally intended to finish and release it, but it just didn't happen.

I disagree. The song is more or less the same kind of thing that PT became: Mike coping with the situation. It references what happened, but I wouldn't call that a tribute song. LYF would have been pretty much perfect. Not too sentimental and acknowledging. It is what it is and that is ok.

5 minutes ago, Stranger said:

I'm so glad Mike and the band not riding on Chester name on their new music. unlike those imposter so-called tribute band and also the other band who touring with the imposter band. plus, we dont know if the band are allowed to mentioned Chester name in their new music, they're possible to get a lawsuit from the Chester's ex-wife, family, etc.

Just to be clear: I don't want the band to "ride" on Chester's name or anything. Absolutely not. I think they did it brilliantly with FZ and how they handled their return. Plus he was "part" of HT20 and M20 in a way, which was really cool.

That being said: A kind of tribute song to him is nothing that would be viable for a lawsuit. They don't even have to name him or anything. That's why LYF felt so perfect in that regard because it worked well as a nod and would've been more than enough to me.

3 minutes ago, Soeffingnaive92 said:

Mike always pointing out tha something is not dedicated/related to Chester feels a bit weird to me. Nothing against it, I have a lot of respect for Mike and the band and what they did to celebrate Chester, classy and well thought... But this urgency to push back any connection to Chester is a bit strange IMO. By the way, totally agree/understand about not playing OML now 

I have always felt the same. Glad I'm not the only one.

But it's ok, it's just the way he is.

It's a shame, though, that we never got a tribute song to Chester from the band. I understand why they didn't do it. But personally, I craved something like this since 2017. LYF would've been exactly that, but it wasn't meant to be. I know I'm in the minority on here concerning this. But it is what it is.

Awesome, thank you. I actually was lucky enough to see them perform this song with Chester. Unfortunately, though, Cyclefly sucked badly live and were booed heavily.

2 hours ago, xxHybridXeroxx said:

They’ve literally always had haters / naysayers haven’t they? 

Always. It's crazy.

4 hours ago, Astat said:

These days, they'd probably talk more openly about stuff like this, but during the HT/Meteora period they were fighting for every shred of credibility they could obtain while the "manufactured/boy band nu metal" accusations were going around. I feel like if it had gotten out back then that a hit single like Faint was built around a string loop lifted from a Bond film, the press never would have let us hear the end of the "ripoff" claims.

That is so true. The press would've ate them alive back then. Some newer fans never experienced the whole "LP is manufactured" era of the band. That was annoying as hell back then.

It's just around an hour of travelling by train, what gives

"Ruhr Area"

1 hour ago, Cesar656 said:

People try so hard to find ways to hate Mike its crazy lmao get over it.

He literally said stuff that he needed to say for marketing reasons. Sometimes people like it, sometimes they dont, but seeing this topic come out so often on a forum that should be of real LP fans is quite tiring lol

Well, first off, just because we are on a LP message board and fans, doesn't mean we can't be critical of stuff.

Secondly, I highly doubt the marketing "strategy" involved trashing other artists. If that was part of the marketing, then what the fuck? That's just poor.

Thirdly, I have no reason to "hate Mike", that's just a bullshit take. He is amazing.

And last, but not least: Calling out all the pop on the radio only to produce the poppiest pop a few years later was super... let's say weird, for your sake.

So, yeah, the point came up and I felt the need to underline this sentiment. On a LP message board nonetheless.

Let's not pretend the band is without blunders. Everyone has those. And if the matter of the fact is so tiring for you, you need to find ways to deal with it.

2014 Mike is one of LP's biggest blunders, for sure. That was embarrasing.

8 minutes ago, LPLStaff said:

But they had all of 2016 off and took their very slow/sweet time with OML. It was the first year they didn't play shows.

 

But Chester had some internal stuff going on in 2016 too, stemming from 2015 incidents (not just him breaking his leg). Maybe they did need more time off. Hindsight is 20/20 on that stuff. They probably felt they had an entire year down and were excited to do a new era.

But it wasn't like they were sitting around doing nothing in 2016. They started work on OML then. It's unlike the time span between Meteora and MTM, where, with the exception of Mike (Fort Minor), they took a long time off.

Or stop supporting this stupid system and get normal tickets for the pit? 

4 minutes ago, YRQRM0 said:

oh I agree, I just think it’s a little funny to hear them praise him in this light when the big comeback album feels pretty far from hip hop compared to a lot of the other albums. Like the opening would have felt a lot more natural to me if he had a Wretches and Kings type track on FZ rather than the reality of there not being a ton of hip hop beats on the album 

My post wasn't intended to provide a counterpoint to your post. It rather got me thinking on why he gets the respect that he is getting (aside from being a super successful musician/artist), haha. 

13 minutes ago, YRQRM0 said:

I felt a little awkward about this at the beginning of the interview lol. No doubt Mike’s a legend, but his rhymes are pretty simple and poppy on FZ, with the only big Hip Hop type moments imo being the verses of Two Faced and GTG 

 

I hope the hosts peeped Ziggurats, that thing is so underrated

Knowing Mike he was probably sitting there thinking “damn yeah I need to go make something for these guys to show I’m still connected to this side” and wrote 10 new hip hop demos in the hotel 

Mike is recognized because he carried the Hip-Hop aspect with the utmost respect since day 1. I think people with a strong Hip-Hop background can acknowledge him because he always showed that he knows what Hip-Hop is about. Unlike many other "rappers" in rock bands back then, he "lived" and respected the culture (plus, you know, wrote some killer rap parts and produced a LOT of amazing beats).

I doubt many people from the genre would call him one of the best to ever do it, but they most certainly respect him for being "real" in a way. At least that's my feeling.

There were some interesting tidbits. Like Jay-Z not wanting to collab with them at the Grammy's or Rakim driving from New York to LA. But man, the host got so hammered, I laughed my ass off. And Mike had a buzz going for sure in the end, you could sense it.

48 minutes ago, KeysToTheLinkinPark said:

That interview is so chaotic that I had to stop at times lol

It didn't help that the host got progressively more stoned

Wild interview, haha.

28 minutes ago, fraamb said:

#LetYouFade

What if it was an old OML demo?

 

As soon as I had the chance to listen to it, from the harmonic progression a melody immediately came to mind, a primordial demo shared by the band in 2015 in the OML pre-sessions - LINK BELOW

 

I don't know if it's a pure coincidence (harmonic progression, notes and tempo) or if the piece has actually been reworked.

 

The fact is that we are faced with the first piece of this new era that, in the metrics, presents "cut" bars just like it happens with almost all the pieces of that period.

Perhaps it could be a track recorded as a demo at the time and revised over the years.

 

The demo is District 108.

Obviously it's just food for thought.

 

LINK: https://www.facebook.com/share/v/16EEqvAWXn/

Wow, nice catch.