RentEznor Posted Monday at 07:44 PM Posted Monday at 07:44 PM On 11/16/2025 at 7:49 AM, felipeintheend said: Labels still have the power to block streams depending on their marketing strategy. And this, potentially and likely, also means why we will still not get something like RAR 07 for a possible MTM 20 release (hopefully I'm wrong) People still underestimate how much power big mainstream labels have over artists, even with a massive band like LP. Sigh, my unrealistic expectations of them going independent are still alive and well. Quote
JZLP-Benningstrong Posted Monday at 08:55 PM Posted Monday at 08:55 PM @LPLStaff@LPLStaff I watched this show before Corona Capital and there's no way that LP2 can perform on this level. Holy shit such a fantastic show banger after banger. I didn't really remember that they used to have a very early heavy set I couldn't believe that they did APFMH, GU, FAINT that early and the closing was cool too, BIO into OSC was amazing. Quote
Fleur de Lys Posted Monday at 09:36 PM Posted Monday at 09:36 PM (edited) I was actually lucky enough to be at Skive Beach Party right after this. I remember not checking setlists before this, and being blown away by songs like APFMH opening and Runway coming back. In 2008 I saw Reading My Eyes there too. Guess I was blessed. Still, I saw LP 2.0 at Olympiastadium this year. The hype was just next level. It was beyond the old shows, just electric. We might forget that LP was not “legendary” yet, and it just was another show for some people there. The crowd visibly lost some interest at songs like “The Catalyst” in 2012, which was how it was. HT/Meteora/What I’ve Done or nothing - must have been so frustrating for the band. It’s not like today where almost every song is a giant singalong. But it is very cool to have this pro shot show to rekindle that memory. Edited Tuesday at 11:34 AM by Fleur de Lys Quote
bloodbath Posted Tuesday at 01:39 AM Posted Tuesday at 01:39 AM 4 hours ago, Fleur de Lys said: I was actually lucky enough to be at Skive Beach Party right after this. I remember not checking setlists before this, and being blown away by songs like APFMH opening and Runway coming back. In 2008 I saw Reading My Eyes there too. Guess I was blessed. Still, I saw LP 2.0 at Olympiastadium this year. The hype was just next level. It was beyond the old shows, just electric. We might forget that LP was not “legendary” yet, and it just was another show for some people there. The crowd visibly lost interest at songs like “The Catalyst” here, which was how it was. HT/Meteora/What I’ve Done or nothing - must have been so frustrating for the band. It’s not like today where almost every song is a giant singalong. But it is very cool to have this pro shot show to rekindle that memory. The Catalyst might be one of their best songs ever. Man, it's even made for the sing-along! But I guess that Nostalgia erased all records but the first two and FZ Quote
ScottiePippo Posted Tuesday at 02:52 AM Posted Tuesday at 02:52 AM I feel like every show in the From Zero world tour is a bigger spectacle than anything the band has ever done. I'm not talking about performance. Right now the band is clearly full of energy, enthusiasm and they are crushing their individual performances. But it feels like there's a ton more focus and work to make better show, with the stage, the lights, etc. The Milan show in 2025 visually felt like a better product overall then the past shows they had played in Italy. After watching both Pinkpop shows from 2007 and 2012 and the comparing them to the recents pro-shots the difference is evident imo. Idk maybe it's also due to the fact that there's better camera work in the new shows. Quote
Fleur de Lys Posted Tuesday at 11:34 AM Posted Tuesday at 11:34 AM 9 hours ago, bloodbath said: The Catalyst might be one of their best songs ever. Man, it's even made for the sing-along! But I guess that Nostalgia erased all records but the first two and FZ Actually I meant that songs like The Catalyst left the 2012 crowd more unresponsive. I'll edit to make it clearer! ATS and a lot of MtM and LT was just not that popular with crowds. Not that the energy was bad but I saw them on ATS tour in 2010 as well, and the response was so much bigger on the nu-metal stuff. It corresponded well with the sort of backlash on the internet to those records. But now it's a different story. That distinction is more blurred and it seems more songs are "classic". So in 2024-25, a song like "The Catalyst" is a big singalong - not a dip in energy. Still seems that HT/Meteora and FZ causes the biggest reactions, but all songs are pretty much add to the hype. 8 hours ago, ScottiePippo said: I feel like every show in the From Zero world tour is a bigger spectacle than anything the band has ever done. I'm not talking about performance. Right now the band is clearly full of energy, enthusiasm and they are crushing their individual performances. But it feels like there's a ton more focus and work to make better show, with the stage, the lights, etc. The Milan show in 2025 visually felt like a better product overall then the past shows they had played in Italy. After watching both Pinkpop shows from 2007 and 2012 and the comparing them to the recents pro-shots the difference is evident imo. Idk maybe it's also due to the fact that there's better camera work in the new shows. Even if a setlist like the Pinkpop one seems crazy good to superfans like us, there is a story-arc to a setlist and show. I think the FZ setlists build more hype, from production to the performances to song order to transitions etc. As a musician I can say that the playing is more tight and they're less prone to mistakes now. And a lot of the guitar tones are better. A lot of the sound is in general. Ofc Chester was a powerhouse with this explosive screaming moments that leave you in awe. Emily is more consistent though, her pitch is great and she delivers studio-worthy performances on so many parts live. Love both for different reasons. Good time to be an LP fan. Quote
Rasputin 93 Posted Tuesday at 11:43 AM Posted Tuesday at 11:43 AM 8 minutes ago, Fleur de Lys said: So in 2024-25, a song like "The Catalyst" is a big singalong - not a dip in energy. Shortening the song has helped big time, imo. Quote
LPLStaff Posted Tuesday at 01:56 PM Author Posted Tuesday at 01:56 PM 16 hours ago, Fleur de Lys said: I was actually lucky enough to be at Skive Beach Party right after this. I remember not checking setlists before this, and being blown away by songs like APFMH opening and Runway coming back. In 2008 I saw Reading My Eyes there too. Guess I was blessed. This is honestly unbelievable. LP has played 5 shows in Denmark ever, and you get 2 shows like this. In comparison, they played around 40 North American shows just this year. 2008 gets the Wake 2.0 real live debut, a VERY rare Reading My Eyes comeback, and you even get The Little Things That Give You Away which wasn't in every set. 2012 gets this insane set. Not to mention 2007 got the live debut of Leave Out All The Rest and TLTGYA. Still remember posting here on LPLive during the 2008 tour and checking for hours on YouTube after Skive 2008 to find a Reading My Eyes video. There is one where the guy filming totally freaks out when it starts haha. And there is another video where we found out for the first time after the show that they changed the Points of Authority outro! Honestly those are insane stats for a country with only 5 LP shows. Some very important things happened in Denmark in LP history. Hopefully they return for the next album! Now playing! Yes, all good points about the crowds in 2012 not loving the ATS/LT stuff as much as they do now. That happens. Right now Catalyst is a monster track and it's hard to believe they will ever drop that song from the show. Quote
Fleur de Lys Posted Tuesday at 02:55 PM Posted Tuesday at 02:55 PM (edited) Yes, looking back we were so lucky! Those concerts are memories I will always treasure. I saw them in Denmark 2007, 2008, 2010 and 2012. Only missed the first show, I was too young. Some of the best shows I ever went to. I think 2007 and 2008 comes out on top, the energy from the band and crowd was unbelievable. I was so young too, it was my first rock concerts. And I remember that RME video, haha! I had the same reaction as that guy, could have been me! I remember singing every word of that rap verse! I loved to listen to RME and Dedicated on the early YouTube, never thought I’d get that live. 59 minutes ago, LPLStaff said: Yes, all good points about the crowds in 2012 not loving the ATS/LT stuff as much as they do now. That happens. Right now Catalyst is a monster track and it's hard to believe they will ever drop that song from the show. Yes, there is just a difference from then to now. It’s good seeing that material get its flowers! Edited Tuesday at 02:57 PM by Fleur de Lys Quote
mrfox Posted Tuesday at 05:16 PM Posted Tuesday at 05:16 PM On 11/16/2025 at 7:49 AM, felipeintheend said: And when I say “a deal,” I’m talking about 1M+ USD, not 10k. I learned that the hard way, and now I fully understand why we don’t get full shows sometimes. Labels still have the power to block streams depending on their marketing strategy. Damn that much, who would pay 1M $ for 13 years old show? Pinkpop 12 is damn well filmed and edited. It reminds me a bit of RAR 07... As already mentioned here, the beginning of the concert has a huge energy that I haven't felt from any concert in a long time. The beginning where Mike and Chester just stand there and then APFH starts...holy fuck...I've heard this DSP many times, but this was a completely new experience Quote
bloodbath Posted yesterday at 01:14 AM Posted yesterday at 01:14 AM 13 hours ago, Fleur de Lys said: Actually I meant that songs like The Catalyst left the 2012 crowd more unresponsive. I'll edit to make it clearer! ATS and a lot of MtM and LT was just not that popular with crowds. Not that the energy was bad but I saw them on ATS tour in 2010 as well, and the response was so much bigger on the nu-metal stuff. It corresponded well with the sort of backlash on the internet to those records. But now it's a different story. That distinction is more blurred and it seems more songs are "classic". So in 2024-25, a song like "The Catalyst" is a big singalong - not a dip in energy. Still seems that HT/Meteora and FZ causes the biggest reactions, but all songs are pretty much add to the hype. Finally after 15 years ATS is accepted!! 13 hours ago, Rasputin 93 said: Shortening the song has helped big time, imo. Really?? I mean, that would make sense why they keep the 2017 version Quote
BartBart91 Posted 21 hours ago Posted 21 hours ago On 11/18/2025 at 2:39 AM, bloodbath said: The Catalyst might be one of their best songs ever. Man, it's even made for the sing-along! But I guess that Nostalgia erased all records but the first two and FZ The Catalyst is a great song, I find it very unfortunate that one of the best parts of the song was cut. 21 hours ago, Rasputin 93 said: Shortening the song has helped big time, imo. I find it very unfortunate that one of the best parts of the song was cut. 19 hours ago, LPLStaff said: This is honestly unbelievable. LP has played 5 shows in Denmark ever, and you get 2 shows like this. In comparison, they played around 40 North American shows just this year. 2008 gets the Wake 2.0 real live debut, a VERY rare Reading My Eyes comeback, and you even get The Little Things That Give You Away which wasn't in every set. 2012 gets this insane set. Not to mention 2007 got the live debut of Leave Out All The Rest and TLTGYA. Still remember posting here on LPLive during the 2008 tour and checking for hours on YouTube after Skive 2008 to find a Reading My Eyes video. There is one where the guy filming totally freaks out when it starts haha. And there is another video where we found out for the first time after the show that they changed the Points of Authority outro! Honestly those are insane stats for a country with only 5 LP shows. Some very important things happened in Denmark in LP history. Hopefully they return for the next album! Now playing! Yes, all good points about the crowds in 2012 not loving the ATS/LT stuff as much as they do now. That happens. Right now Catalyst is a monster track and it's hard to believe they will ever drop that song from the show. Cool that you experienced Reading My Eyes live, one of the best Linkin Park songs, especially live. Wake 2.0 is great too. Quote
Rasputin 93 Posted 18 hours ago Posted 18 hours ago 18 hours ago, mrfox said: Damn that much, who would pay 1M $ for 13 years old show? Broadcasters. Quote
LPLStaff Posted 11 hours ago Author Posted 11 hours ago This thread was inspiring, to the point where I am listening to the entire 2012 Europe tour right now. Finishing appealing/unblocking the last 3 DSPs on the LPLive YouTube from the end of that tour. All these shows are phenomenal. Quote
Stewe Posted 10 hours ago Posted 10 hours ago 51 minutes ago, LPLStaff said: This thread was inspiring, to the point where I am listening to the entire 2012 Europe tour right now. Finishing appealing/unblocking the last 3 DSPs on the LPLive YouTube from the end of that tour. All these shows are phenomenal. 2012 tour is awesome. Still my biggest regret, not to see them on that tour as they didn't come to Italy . I thought going to another show but I through the setlist would be similar to 2011 (saw them on Imola that year) and I thought would be useless to see them again. How badly wrong could I've been? This 2012 shows are awesome Quote
c3bebuilder Posted 9 hours ago Posted 9 hours ago 2 hours ago, LPLStaff said: This thread was inspiring, to the point where I am listening to the entire 2012 Europe tour right now. Finishing appealing/unblocking the last 3 DSPs on the LPLive YouTube from the end of that tour. All these shows are phenomenal. Shame we never got DSPs for 2013 Quote
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