leftshoe18 Posted Thursday at 12:22 AM Posted Thursday at 12:22 AM 53 minutes ago, linkin_boss said: Yup, the messenger was brought 2 whole tones down. And it's so much better than the album version. Quote
aaaaaaA Posted Thursday at 04:37 AM Posted Thursday at 04:37 AM (edited) For some reason, I consider this song one of the least favorite of the album. I'm happy for y'all liking it, but I feel that those high pitch verses made me feel that way. I'm hoping for "Casualty". Edited Thursday at 04:38 AM by aaaaaaA Quote
Trumtram Posted Thursday at 11:10 AM Posted Thursday at 11:10 AM (edited) Correct me if I'm wrong, but there was no other song in LP's discography, where they changed the pitch for their live performance. At least I can't recall any cases from the first three albums, but I'm not an expert. "The Messenger" is most certainly one of these cases, even though the song itself was never meant to be played live like on the studio version, it's a special thing. I'm just confused on why they would record a song for their comeback album (intending to play it live), only to not being able to actually sing it? What's the point? @JZLP common practice? Nah. Singer's get pitch corrected in studio versions, but usually a song gets performed live in the way the studio version is. I mean, it's all good, the majority seems to be happy with it. I found the official live version to be a bit flat because of the change in pitch/tone/whatever. Edited Thursday at 11:10 AM by Trumtram Quote
KeysToTheLinkinPark Posted Thursday at 11:13 AM Posted Thursday at 11:13 AM 3 minutes ago, Trumtram said: I mean, it's all good, the majority seems to be happy with it. I found the official live version to be a bit flat because of the change in pitch/tone/whatever. I agree. Quote
leftshoe18 Posted Thursday at 12:03 PM Posted Thursday at 12:03 PM 50 minutes ago, Trumtram said: Correct me if I'm wrong, but there was no other song in LP's discography, where they changed the pitch for their live performance. At least I can't recall any cases from the first three albums, but I'm not an expert. "The Messenger" is most certainly one of these cases, even though the song itself was never meant to be played live like on the studio version, it's a special thing. I'm just confused on why they would record a song for their comeback album (intending to play it live), only to not being able to actually sing it? What's the point? @JZLP common practice? Nah. Singer's get pitch corrected in studio versions, but usually a song gets performed live in the way the studio version is. I mean, it's all good, the majority seems to be happy with it. I found the official live version to be a bit flat because of the change in pitch/tone/whatever. It's very possible they tried rehearsing it in the studio version's key and realized it was too difficult to consistently perform live that way. While bands tend to mostly stick with the original key of songs when performing them live, there are plenty of songs from plenty of bands that have only ever been performed live in a different key for one reason or another. Quote
Trumtram Posted Thursday at 12:09 PM Posted Thursday at 12:09 PM 5 minutes ago, leftshoe18 said: It's very possible they tried rehearsing it in the studio version's key and realized it was too difficult to consistently perform live that way. That's a fair point. Quote
LPLStaff Posted Thursday at 08:06 PM Author Posted Thursday at 08:06 PM I think it's just as simple as that. We were spoiled with Chester for so long - he was truly iconic. Quote
Paigeinpark Posted Thursday at 10:33 PM Posted Thursday at 10:33 PM On 2/25/2025 at 3:31 PM, LeonardoMF93 said: Now, since the album's release, we haven't had any new music videos. Are we not getting any more? have they ever made music videos for any non-single? id guess on the ATS but i cant remember tbh i feel like the two songs that could have MVs would either be Good Things Go (a fan favorite) or maybe Casualty (first non single to be played live) Quote
JerseyShore Posted Friday at 03:05 AM Posted Friday at 03:05 AM 6 hours ago, LPLStaff said: I think it's just as simple as that. We were spoiled with Chester for so long - he was truly iconic. For sure. We could either be watching Forgotten at RAR 01 on repeat or listening to brand new awesome LP songs that have only be played live like 4 times, but are down a key or a touch off the album version. Or both. I know which side I would vote for. Quote
JZLP-Benningstrong Posted Sunday at 01:12 AM Posted Sunday at 01:12 AM On 2/27/2025 at 2:06 PM, LPLStaff said: I think it's just as simple as that. We were spoiled with Chester for so long - he was truly iconic. Hey man after my show i feel in doubt of this new era, i love seeing the og members having the time of their life they look so alive and happy, Colin and Emily are killing it. but there's something that pulls me down, i like the new music and they are doing great shows its just weird to listen on shuffle to Emily and then Chester i hate to compare them but holy fucking shit what a fucking BEAST Chester was and his singing voice its pretty fuckinh beautiful. dont get me wrong i love the new era ill support them always but i feel conflicted. Quote
xxHybridXeroxx Posted Sunday at 03:25 AM Posted Sunday at 03:25 AM (edited) 2 hours ago, JZLP-Benningstrong said: Hey man after my show i feel in doubt of this new era, i love seeing the og members having the time of their life they look so alive and happy, Colin and Emily are killing it. but there's something that pulls me down, i like the new music and they are doing great shows its just weird to listen on shuffle to Emily and then Chester i hate to compare them but holy fucking shit what a fucking BEAST Chester was and his singing voice its pretty fuckinh beautiful. dont get me wrong i love the new era ill support them always but i feel conflicted. I think it’s hard for all of us in ways to accept the change. As Mark said, we were spoiled with Chester for so long… truly a once in a generation vocalist, hell maybe even a once in a lifetime vocalist. For me, as someone who was saved by Chester and still loves him dearly, having LP back is a true blessing because the band wasn’t just him, it was the others too. Emily’s fine imo, I just wish she’d sing a little bit more instead of having the crowd do parts. I think that’s her style, she likes getting the crowd involved. She obviously isn’t going to compare to Chester because nobody can or would. Which is also why I’m glad they picked her because a Chester copy would just be weird and uncomfortable. She brings her own energy and vibe to the band and honestly I see a little bit of Chester vibes in how she acts and her stage presence, but it feels NATURAL not forced. She’s not going to be him because she isn’t him, but she’s damn good for what she is and in the position she’s in. Edited Sunday at 03:26 AM by xxHybridXeroxx Quote
MMM Posted Sunday at 09:45 AM Posted Sunday at 09:45 AM (edited) I think 'let crowd sing' is her way to protect voice. LP have two vocalists so there is more gaps but some parts are pain in the ass to sing. In Dead Sara she sang more but she isn't that young anymore and FZ world tour sets is almost 2h long. Chester voice in 2014-2017 sound so damaged and tired. I think its the results of extreme sets, long touring and singing almost everything during concerts. Edited Sunday at 10:00 AM by MMM Quote
JZLP-Benningstrong Posted Sunday at 03:56 PM Posted Sunday at 03:56 PM 6 hours ago, MMM said: I think 'let crowd sing' is her way to protect voice. LP have two vocalists so there is more gaps but some parts are pain in the ass to sing. In Dead Sara she sang more but she isn't that young anymore and FZ world tour sets is almost 2h long. Chester voice in 2014-2017 sound so damaged and tired. I think its the results of extreme sets, long touring and singing almost everything during concerts. Probably the thing that i dislike more about Emily is that she abuses the karaoke moments. I think that there are better ways to protect her voice like dropping complicated songs or playing more songs with Mike on lead vocals (i would LOVE to see more of Mike doing lead or singing more Chester's parts) Quote
c3bebuilder Posted Sunday at 08:58 PM Posted Sunday at 08:58 PM (edited) They really should drop Crawling. Emily barely sings that song live and always lets the crowd sing, a better song could easily take Crawling's place in the setlist. Edited Sunday at 08:58 PM by c3bebuilder Quote
JZLP-Benningstrong Posted Sunday at 09:39 PM Posted Sunday at 09:39 PM 35 minutes ago, c3bebuilder said: They really should drop Crawling. Emily barely sings that song live and always lets the crowd sing, a better song could easily take Crawling's place in the setlist. yeah I dislike it so much specially having awful singers around you lol crawling used to be a good live song but it just doesn't works for me, its fine if they have some moments that are for the crowd to sing like the ITE bridge which is iconic but you cant let a crowd sing like 85% of a song Quote
Stranger Posted Sunday at 11:19 PM Posted Sunday at 11:19 PM 1 hour ago, JZLP-Benningstrong said: yeah I dislike it so much specially having awful singers around you lol crawling used to be a good live song but it just doesn't works for me, its fine if they have some moments that are for the crowd to sing like the ITE bridge which is iconic but you cant let a crowd sing like 85% of a song "Crawling" in the setlist is like a "tribute to Chester moment", so the band let the crowd sing most of the song, just like how they did "Numb" during Chester tribute shows back in 2017. this thing started when the FROM ZERO Livestream and Mike clearly said to the crowd, "in the role of Chester Bennington is each of you" and they carry it on since then. Quote
javignacio Posted yesterday at 12:51 AM Posted yesterday at 12:51 AM 1 hour ago, Stranger said: "Crawling" in the setlist is like a "tribute to Chester moment", so the band let the crowd sing most of the song, just like how they did "Numb" during Chester tribute shows back in 2017. this thing started when the FROM ZERO Livestream and Mike clearly said to the crowd, "in the role of Chester Bennington is each of you" and they carry it on since then. YES, that's crawling meaning in this setlist. they did rotate it though, but that's how it started, and I think it's a good thing, buuuut Em does it in other songs also Quote
thigolpbr Posted yesterday at 01:49 AM Posted yesterday at 01:49 AM On 25/02/2025 at 15:02, LPLStaff said: Sempre quis que o LP seguisse o caminho do Metallica e lançasse músicas ao vivo durante a turnê como eles fazem. Esta é uma nova abordagem neste ciclo e é sólida - eles estão profissionalmente mixando coisas e lançando vídeos ao vivo consistentemente. E importante... é algo que as pessoas querem ver. Próximo passo... um novo site de downloads ao vivo com alguns shows? Não precisa ser tudo, mas imagine lançamentos ao vivo mais consistentes das turnês (e do vault). Isso parece bom. If the band does this it would be a dream come true. Imagine a website to download the band's vault shows. The new shows, the shows from 2000-2017 with Chester, that would be amazing. I would buy them all lol Could you guys talk to Mike or someone close to him? lol Quote
JZLP-Benningstrong Posted yesterday at 01:50 AM Posted yesterday at 01:50 AM 2 hours ago, Stranger said: "Crawling" in the setlist is like a "tribute to Chester moment", so the band let the crowd sing most of the song, just like how they did "Numb" during Chester tribute shows back in 2017. this thing started when the FROM ZERO Livestream and Mike clearly said to the crowd, "in the role of Chester Bennington is each of you" and they carry it on since then. I would love if Mike mentioned Chester during Crawling at every show🥲 that would be meaningful, the karaoke moments from Emily are just annoying. Quote
LPLStaff Posted yesterday at 02:05 AM Author Posted yesterday at 02:05 AM They aren't many shows in yet - she will get better over time. Definitely don't see her having this many "let the crowd sing" moments years from now. She is doing really well overall. Much better than we could have ever guessed. Ironically, the part she CRUSHED at the launch show was the ITE bridge - "I put my tr-UST in you"... how she sang that with her voice really struck me in the crowd as such a... moment. I instantly was like "holy shit, she's good." Sadly she has not sung that exact part since the very first show but I hope one day she starts singing the ITE bridge again. I really loved her getting right next to Mike (who was on guitar!) and nailing that. Her voice is so good - really no need to let the crowd sing so much IMO. Not a criticism. Love Emily and she will continue getting better, just as Alex and Colin will too. Quote
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