hahninator Posted February 16, 2009 Share Posted February 16, 2009 Ryan from Julien-K has posted this message on the Julien-K forum in response to fans questioning him about why the band had to cancel their January 2008 European shows in support of Linkin Park. The original message read in January 2008: "Unfortunately, due to circumstances beyond our control, we are unable to perform the dates as scheduled and therefore must cancel the European tour. " Ryan had this to say: "here's the truth - simplified (some of this is a bit to personal to share in to much detail). if you guys are really savvy and decide to dig deeper, you will be able to fill in the blanks as this story starts to pick up traction in the mainstream press. our company (L7) was having some major legal issues preventing us from being able to move forward in any substantial way. it wasn't anything that we (the band) did. it was a once in a lifetime nightmare that we inadvertently got caught up in - and we had no easy way out. in addition to that, and connected to it - one of our closest friends and partners were in crisis. we just couldn't leave in the middle of it. on the personal side - we needed to be there for our friend, on the business side, we were legally frozen. no passport issues, and we would never book a tour and just cancel it to go record. we lost A LOT of money by canceling that tour, and a huge opportunity. it was not taken lightly. hope this helps shed some light on why we were unable to do ANYTHING for so long. we have been in a 3 year long battle. RS" On December 7 last year, I posted this thread on our own forum entitled "Level 7, The Details You Never Knew...Until Now". Check it out. Some people don't really understand it, so I'll post a follow-up if needed. Level 7 was basically a music "company" that Chester and some friends created to release his solo album, the Julien-K album, and more. Anyway, enjoy. Quote Link to comment https://lplive.net/forums/topic/1065-ryan-discusses-canceled-european-tour/ Share on other sites More sharing options...
LPPRJKT4 Posted February 16, 2009 Share Posted February 16, 2009 (edited) Well this def explains the huge delay for Death To Analog. Edited February 16, 2009 by LPPRJKT4 Quote Link to comment https://lplive.net/forums/topic/1065-ryan-discusses-canceled-european-tour/#findComment-16105 Share on other sites More sharing options...
LPxDC Posted February 16, 2009 Share Posted February 16, 2009 damn.... do you think it was chester? the friend? no cuz then LP would have canceled the Euro dates... hmm.. hopefully Julien K tours again soon Quote Link to comment https://lplive.net/forums/topic/1065-ryan-discusses-canceled-european-tour/#findComment-16106 Share on other sites More sharing options...
LPPanther Posted February 16, 2009 Share Posted February 16, 2009 Interesting stuff...have we found out what is happening this Tuesday yet? Or am I just way behind on my JK news? Quote Link to comment https://lplive.net/forums/topic/1065-ryan-discusses-canceled-european-tour/#findComment-16108 Share on other sites More sharing options...
SouthernGirlAM Posted February 16, 2009 Share Posted February 16, 2009 damn.... do you think it was chester? the friend? no cuz then LP would have canceled the Euro dates... hmm.. hopefully Julien K tours again soon Not necessarily...if any of the LP members were in trouble, Warner would absolutely get them through it to where no tour would be canceled. I could see a show or two being dropped, but I could never see them letting a whole tour suffer, especially considering how much money that'd cost them...holy crap...So yeah... Quote Link to comment https://lplive.net/forums/topic/1065-ryan-discusses-canceled-european-tour/#findComment-16112 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Astat Posted February 16, 2009 Share Posted February 16, 2009 (edited) Not necessarily...if any of the LP members were in trouble, Warner would absolutely get them through it to where no tour would be canceled. I could see a show or two being dropped, but I could never see them letting a whole tour suffer, especially considering how much money that'd cost them...holy crap...So yeah... Absolutely zero possibility that it was anyone in LP. Ryan says right there that they needed to be there for their friend, meaning NOT going on the tour, meaning that the friend was someone at home. The friend was probably either Kenji Kato or Henry Nicholas. I'm still clueless as to why the tie-up with Level 7 would legally prevent Julien-K from touring in Europe but not the United States though... Edited February 16, 2009 by Astat Quote Link to comment https://lplive.net/forums/topic/1065-ryan-discusses-canceled-european-tour/#findComment-16113 Share on other sites More sharing options...
April Posted February 16, 2009 Share Posted February 16, 2009 Absolutely zero possibility that it was anyone in LP. Ryan says right there that they needed to be there for their friend, meaning NOT going on the tour, meaning that the friend was someone at home. The friend was probably either Kenji Kato or Henry Nicholas. I'm still clueless as to why the tie-up with Level 7 would legally prevent Julien-K from touring in Europe but not the United States though... Maybe Julien-K couldn't leave the USA, what if it was forbidden. It seems Level 7 was not a real record studio but "a sex cave", "fully stocked warehouse of drugs", and "a brothel’s worth of prostitutes on the payroll", ah? (dont kick me if i didnt get it all) It would explain a neverending recording of Dead By Sunrise pretty well. Quote Link to comment https://lplive.net/forums/topic/1065-ryan-discusses-canceled-european-tour/#findComment-16114 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Astat Posted February 16, 2009 Share Posted February 16, 2009 (edited) Maybe Julien-K couldn't leave the USA, what if it was forbidden. It seems Level 7 was not a real record studio but "a sex cave", "fully stocked warehouse of drugs", and "a brothel’s worth of prostitutes on the payroll", ah? (dont kick me if i didnt get it all) It would explain a neverending recording of Dead By Sunrise pretty well. That IS NOT what Level 7 was AT ALL. Way to COMPLETELY misread the article. What you just referred to are the accusations brought against Henry Nicholas, which had NOTHING to do with Level 7 itself. Level 7 wasn't a recording studio either, it was supposed to be a new record label/musical artist development company. Level 7 = Chester's version of Machine Shop, essentially. I know you said not to kick you, but WOW. Edited February 16, 2009 by Astat Quote Link to comment https://lplive.net/forums/topic/1065-ryan-discusses-canceled-european-tour/#findComment-16116 Share on other sites More sharing options...
[AndOne] Posted February 16, 2009 Share Posted February 16, 2009 Interesting story, at least things cleared up one year after, man I would have loved to see them opening for LP. Maybe someday... Quote Link to comment https://lplive.net/forums/topic/1065-ryan-discusses-canceled-european-tour/#findComment-16123 Share on other sites More sharing options...
April Posted February 16, 2009 Share Posted February 16, 2009 That IS NOT what Level 7 was AT ALL. Way to COMPLETELY misread the article. What you just referred to are the accusations brought against Henry Nicholas, which had NOTHING to do with Level 7 itself. Level 7 wasn't a recording studio either, it was supposed to be a new record label/musical artist development company. Level 7 = Chester's version of Machine Shop, essentially. I know you said not to kick you, but WOW. Thank you for explaination, sometimes my english understanding sucks. But if Henry Nicholas had NOTHING to do with Level 7 itself, what does it mean? http://lplive.net/forum/index.php?showtopic=659 In document "Declaration of Kenji Kato" QUOTE Towards the end of 2004, he (Nicholas) decided to create a media company called Level 7. I was the first person to come on board and help him develop this company Quote Link to comment https://lplive.net/forums/topic/1065-ryan-discusses-canceled-european-tour/#findComment-16136 Share on other sites More sharing options...
SergSlim Posted February 16, 2009 Share Posted February 16, 2009 Thank you for explaination, sometimes my english understanding sucks. But if Henry Nicholas had NOTHING to do with Level 7 itself, what does it mean? http://lplive.net/forum/index.php?showtopic=659 In document "Declaration of Kenji Kato" QUOTE Towards the end of 2004, he (Nicholas) decided to create a media company called Level 7. I was the first person to come on board and help him develop this company He said that accusation towards Henry had nothing to do with Level7, not Henry himself. Quote Link to comment https://lplive.net/forums/topic/1065-ryan-discusses-canceled-european-tour/#findComment-16145 Share on other sites More sharing options...
HybridThe0ry97 Posted February 16, 2009 Share Posted February 16, 2009 I got the feel like level 7 was having legal issues with warner because of chester.. Quote Link to comment https://lplive.net/forums/topic/1065-ryan-discusses-canceled-european-tour/#findComment-16169 Share on other sites More sharing options...
immortalsoul Posted February 17, 2009 Share Posted February 17, 2009 I'm glad Ryan shed some light on why they couldn't come over. This guy just rocks! I really appreciate his honesty! Quote Link to comment https://lplive.net/forums/topic/1065-ryan-discusses-canceled-european-tour/#findComment-16207 Share on other sites More sharing options...
mastercontrol Posted February 27, 2009 Share Posted February 27, 2009 JK produces some quality product ... Its some of the "knuckle-heads" they are associated with at (L7) that were dragging them down. Stay focused and move beyond all of the drama !! Quote Link to comment https://lplive.net/forums/topic/1065-ryan-discusses-canceled-european-tour/#findComment-16840 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Geki Posted March 2, 2009 Share Posted March 2, 2009 I wonder if Chester would have came out with them on stage if they went to Europe with LP. Quote Link to comment https://lplive.net/forums/topic/1065-ryan-discusses-canceled-european-tour/#findComment-16976 Share on other sites More sharing options...
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