HybridT Posted March 2, 2015 Posted March 2, 2015 Ok, first lpassociation.com, then in wikipedia, and now Chester said that With You was a promotional single. What do you want now? Money? xD. Add this fuckng song! Quote
GlassCastles Posted March 2, 2015 Posted March 2, 2015 The first two are not very solid sources. Chester saying it, however, is more credible. I think it can be added now, but it's up to you guys. Quote
HybridT Posted March 2, 2015 Posted March 2, 2015 I know that the first two are not very solid sources. But I don't think that Chester is going to lie. If Chester said it is because is true. If I were you I would add it. Quote
StaticXero Posted March 2, 2015 Posted March 2, 2015 there's no promotion cd out there. so this means it was never a promotional single... Quote
HybridT Posted March 2, 2015 Posted March 2, 2015 So. Why Chester said that "With You" was a promotional single? Quote
StaticXero Posted March 2, 2015 Posted March 2, 2015 On 3/2/2015 at 7:10 PM, HybridParK said: So. Why Chester said that "With You" was a promotional single? because he and the rest of the band don't know what they're talking about, for example they think the band was founded in 1998... original quote by Mike: "Contrary to popular belief, none of us actually know what we're talking about." Quote
HybridT Posted March 2, 2015 Posted March 2, 2015 How can it be that everyone says that "With You" is a promotional single? First, in LPAssociation.com. Is not a reliable source? Ok. Then we have Wikipedia which also says the same. It is not a reliable source? Ok. Finally we have Chester Bennington, Linkin Park vocalist saying "With You" is a promotional single. But is not credible? It can be that sometimes they don't know of what they are talking about. But such a coincidence that thousands of pages say that "With You" is a promotional single, and over Chester says it too? I don't think it's a coincidence. You know what? I don't care. If you don't want to add it, don't add it. The only thing I will say is that this thread is incomplete. Quote
GlassCastles Posted March 2, 2015 Posted March 2, 2015 On 3/2/2015 at 7:42 PM, HybridParK said: How can it be that everyone says that "With You" is a promotional single? First, in LPAssociation.com. Is not a reliable source? Ok. Then we have Wikipedia which also says the same. It is not a reliable source? Ok. Finally we have Chester Bennington, Linkin Park vocalist saying "With You" is a promotional single. But is not credible? It can be that sometimes they don't know of what they are talking about. But such a coincidence that thousands of pages say that "With You" is a promotional single, and over Chester says it too? I don't think it's a coincidence. You know what? I don't care. If you don't want to add it, don't add it. The only thing I will say is that this thread is incomplete. The argument could be made that those sites only say it because Chester said it in an "interview". Quote
Chris Posted March 2, 2015 Posted March 2, 2015 On 3/2/2015 at 7:09 PM, StaticXero said: there's no promotion cd out there. so this means it was never a promotional single... Ah, so you have access to all promotional CDs in existence, you're saying? Quit basing your argument in ignorance. Just because you can't prove something doesn't mean your point is correct. Quote
Skipees Posted March 2, 2015 Author Posted March 2, 2015 On 3/2/2015 at 7:42 PM, HybridParK said: How can it be that everyone says that "With You" is a promotional single? 1. First, in LPAssociation.com. Is not a reliable source? Ok. 2. Then we have Wikipedia which also says the same. It is not a reliable source? Ok. 3. Finally we have Chester Bennington, Linkin Park vocalist saying "With You" is a promotional single. But is not credible? Examples: 1. LPA Wiki has HTEP with the blue artwork as the front cover (which is brown). 2. Wikipedia has "May 1, 1999" as the release date (which is unknown). 3. Mike said they formed Hybrid Theory in 1998 (Chester joined the band after March 1999). On 3/2/2015 at 7:42 PM, HybridParK said: You know what? I don't care. If you don't want to add it, don't add it. The only thing I will say is that this thread is incomplete. The point is to discuss what's right or wrong. On 3/2/2015 at 10:44 PM, Lorde-Wobbuffet said: Ah, so you have access to all promotional CDs in existence, you're saying? Quit basing your argument in ignorance. Just because you can't prove something doesn't mean your point is correct. We know about most of them, never heard about "With You", unless this is count somehow. Quote
StaticXero Posted March 2, 2015 Posted March 2, 2015 (edited) On 3/2/2015 at 10:44 PM, Lorde-Wobbuffet said: Ah, so you have access to all promotional CDs in existence, you're saying? Quit basing your argument in ignorance. Just because you can't prove something doesn't mean your point is correct. Oh, I didn't know you know something (or nothing...) about me... I know it for 99% (I think it's a legit number, isn't it?) Sources: my collection, other collections like Woco's, Percy's, LPC's etc And I follow LP at almost every turn since early 2001. I would be very happy if you prove me wrong Edited March 2, 2015 by StaticXero Quote
Chris Posted March 2, 2015 Posted March 2, 2015 (edited) On 3/2/2015 at 11:29 PM, Skipees said: We know about most of them, never heard about "With You", unless this is count somehow.What of this? On 3/2/2015 at 11:32 PM, StaticXero said: Oh, I didn't know you know something (or nothing...) about me... I know it for 99% (I think it's a legit number, isn't it?) Sources: my collection, other collections like Woco's, Percy's, LPC's etc So you're honestly going to sit there and tell me that we have every promo LP ever dished out? This may be the funniest thing I've ever read. Edited March 2, 2015 by Lorde-Wobbuffet Quote
Chris Posted March 2, 2015 Posted March 2, 2015 On 3/2/2015 at 11:35 PM, StaticXero said: promo of HT not of WY...You could say that about literally any promo single. Lying From You was only released to radios to promote Meteora, please remove it from the list! Quote
Skipees Posted March 2, 2015 Author Posted March 2, 2015 On 3/2/2015 at 11:32 PM, Lorde-Wobbuffet said: What of this?This is a cassette. On 3/2/2015 at 11:32 PM, Lorde-Wobbuffet said: So you're honestly going to sit there and tell me that we have every promo LP ever dished out? This may be the funniest thing I've ever read.And how this is provong any point? We have the most, at least one of each (for example if Blackout has 3 different versions - US, UK, EU - we have at least one them. Just example). Quote
Chris Posted March 2, 2015 Posted March 2, 2015 On 3/2/2015 at 11:38 PM, Skipees said: And how this is provong any point? We have the most, at least one of each (for example if Blackout has 3 different versions - US, UK, EU - we have at least one them. Just example).It's proving that this: On 3/2/2015 at 7:09 PM, StaticXero said: there's no promotion cd out there. so this means it was never a promotional single...Is an invalid statement. Quote
HybridT Posted March 2, 2015 Posted March 2, 2015 Ok, we have sources saying that With You was a promotional single, we have Chester saying that, and now we have photos of that. But all is fake. Right? Quote
StaticXero Posted March 2, 2015 Posted March 2, 2015 now we need a new definition for a promotional single... It is like talking to a wall... Quote
Chris Posted March 2, 2015 Posted March 2, 2015 (edited) On 3/2/2015 at 11:43 PM, HybridParK said: Ok, we have sources saying that With You was a promotional single, we have Chester saying that, and now we have photos of that. But all is fake. Right?Apparently, if it gets put with another song, it's not a promo... :/ On 3/2/2015 at 11:44 PM, StaticXero said: now we need a new definition for a promotional single... It is like talking to a wall... It's like talking to an abuser of logical fallacies. Edited March 2, 2015 by Lorde-Wobbuffet Quote
Skipees Posted March 2, 2015 Author Posted March 2, 2015 On 3/2/2015 at 11:41 PM, Lorde-Wobbuffet said: Is an invalid statement. It's not. Promo is something that you're sending to the radio stations, so you need to send it on something, this something is called a "CD", so if the most knowledgeable CD collectors in the community never saw/heard/have something that had at least 1000 copies (unlike internal CDs), it means that it's (99%) not exist. Quote
StaticXero Posted March 2, 2015 Posted March 2, 2015 Lets list all songs as promotional singles because they were all on some promo cds/cassettes... oh, wait, here http://lpcatalog.com/item/2000_hybrid-theory/promo/cassette-sampler_de We have to add Forgotten as a promotional single! Didn't know that until know. Thank you Quote
Chris Posted March 2, 2015 Posted March 2, 2015 (edited) On 3/2/2015 at 11:47 PM, Skipees said: It's not. Promo is something that you're sending to the radio stations, so you need to send on something, this something is called a "CD", so if the most knowledgeable collectors in the community never saw/heard/have something that had at least 1000 copies (unlike internal CDs), it means that it's (99%) not exist.The statement was "there's no promotion cd out there. so this means it was never a promotional single...". Simply put, it's a good old-fashioned "You can't prove it, therefore I am right" argument. Argumentum ad ignorantiam. LP says they had a song called Pictureboard, but we've never seen it. We cannot prove its existence, therefore LP is mistaken! The song does not exist! It comes off as elitist and condescending. Let me make this clear. My point is not that With You is a promo single. That's only a side thing I'm trying to figure out. The point is, you can't say IT DOES NOT EXIST, simply because no one can PROVE it exists. Edited March 2, 2015 by Lorde-Wobbuffet Quote
Skipees Posted March 2, 2015 Author Posted March 2, 2015 On 3/2/2015 at 11:50 PM, Lorde-Wobbuffet said: The statement was "there's no promotion cd out there. so this means it was never a promotional single...". Simply put, it's a good old-fashioned "You can't prove it, therefore I am right" argument. Argumentum ad ignorantiam. LP says they had a song called Pictureboard, but we've never seen it. We cannot prove its existence, therefore LP is mistaken! The song does not exist! It comes off as elitist and condescending. Read all of your posts in this thread, why you're trying to prove that he's worng instead that you're right? It's okay that you jumped into a subject that you have almost zero idea about, but you need to stop when you feel it's too far. Quote
HybridT Posted March 2, 2015 Posted March 2, 2015 On 3/2/2015 at 7:25 PM, StaticXero said: because he and the rest of the band don't know what they're talking about, for example they think the band was founded in 1998...original quote by Mike: "Contrary to popular belief, none of us actually know what we're talking about." Pictureboard doesn't exist. Since the rest of the band don't know what they're talking about. Quote
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