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Now that we have all the info I wonder how long it'll take for someone to make a fixed Papercuts with singles versions and more transitions between songs lol.

21 hours ago, RYG4R said:

 

how did you know all about these information?

They just mentioned it in an interview about their show in Rock In Rio (in Portuguese). They mentioned when they get booked for a show these fees are negotiated in a way that the event producer runs with them.

3 hours ago, RYG4R said:

 

This is a sign that LINKIN PARK is still missed by many. A comeback album would be even bigger if the time is right.

 

P.S. - What will going to happen to the HYBRID THEORY band when the real, legit LINKIN PARK comes back? 

Well, Queen came back with Adam Lambert and their tributes are still touring around, hasn't been a problem so far.

Tributes when they perform at a such large level they pay copyright holders, so that's a fair use of a creative piece. I'm pretty sure nobody ask Mozart if they could perform his pieces everywhere in the world for centuries to come, yet nobody waited for him to be dead to play his music, you know? I think the 70s-90s did a huge disservice to music by enshrining the cult of personality. It's the same endless discussion with the band even getting back together... there will always be people moaning that Chester cannot be replaced, and that is the only way the band can sound, and otherwise they should not sound at all. Yet most bands change guitarists and drummers like shirts and nobody bats an eye.

10 minutes ago, Stranger said:

so, QWERTY is produced by Rick Rubin & Mike Shinoda.  so it will be the Studio Demo version from LPU6.

 

I guess in hindsight it was to be expected, New single aside this seems to be a very formulaic compilation. I'd be surprised if they did anything interesting with the album booklet.

2 hours ago, Stranger said:

 

those are collaboration tracks and for Invisible (or any Mike main vocal track in LP album) always been overshadowed by Chester. it's time for Mike to prove that he capable to lead the band with 100% fresh new materials with his vocal lead the song. he should try and if fails, then they know what to do next. but trust me, any materials post-CB era will blown the internet. 

 

 

that's because he released those materials under the banner of "MIKE SHINODA". hell, Mike can ever releases "ALREADY OVER" as LP track if he want to but he carefully not to do that because people will still fkin complain bout it. 

Of course, people will complain one way or the other, but at the end of the day it will still mostly as a "hardcore linkin park fan" discussion. I don't think the mainstream audiences would engage in that discussion for long.

1 hour ago, Hybrid1988 said:

Doubt it. just going off the Shinoda releases, they never got close to the hype of an LP release. The rest of the members aren’t big rockstar personalities so their contributions won’t add much to the casual fans. 
Now, that’s not me saying they can’t continue with Mike as a sole vocalist and be successful. They surely can. It just probably won’t be as big as anything with Chester. 

 

Same here dude. It’s crazy to me. Tons of LP fans were begging for a more hard rocking album from them and when they finally delivered, nobody bought in. I thought the album was going to be huge in the rock world. Feels like I’m the only one who dug it sometimes. 

I think a good chunk of Mike's not getting a lot of success is that whenever he comes to conversation a lot of people have no idea who he is. I run into this pretty often, until I say ahh the guy that raps in Linkin Park, and then everyone goes "Aaaaaaahhhhh....." I think just by carrying the Linkin Park name, whether they get a singer to deal with the parts Mike can't reach or if they do new stuff just with him, it would be more successful than his solo career.

I think QWERTY makes sense. It's a singles collection, and they knew if Friendly Fire was the single to promote the release, people would complaint it's a pop song. QWERTY is finished enough that can stand as a new single as well, and it'd play better with the rock/metal crowd.

Now, considering the live version from 2006 and the LPU studio release had some differences. Will we see the same mixing as in LPU 6? or will they make a new mix for this release?

Papercuts as a name sounds good honestly, it makes sense as a compilation of different cuts from different periods. That being said I would have preferred a busier cover, along the lines of songs from the underground or LPU X. I know the LPU one is super busy, but it fits the papercuts concept :P. 

4 minutes ago, bloodbath said:

Some of you are disappointed with Friendly Fire. I don't get it, it's an outtake from OML, you know what to expect. There's no room for surprise. 

well to be fair, QWERTY was sort of an MTM outtake. I mean, still recorded during the period before the album release, and it sounds nothing like it

On 1/27/2024 at 9:12 AM, LPLStaff said:

I think the remaining holy grail items people know about are:

 

"Webster Hall" making of MTM footage

No Roads Left with Chester

Friendly Fire, I guess

 

Live shows:

Tokyo 2006

Full Roxy 2004

MFR 2005?

There are some really good ones like KROQ 2007 Acoustic Xmas, MSG 2008, Berlin 2008, etc. They have enough shows to go forever on releases.

 

HT20 and M20 really took the list down. We got She Couldn't, Pictureboard, Projekt Revolution 2002, Fillmore 2001, a ton of Meteora era shows including a PR 2004 proshot everyone wanted, Nottingham 2003 in full with the missing songs, Lost (thoughts that take away my pride), Wizard Song (Resolution), a bunch of tracks we didn't even know existed (More the Victim, Fighting Myself, Massive, Healing Foot, etc). We got a ton of stuff. Let's see what happens in the next few years.

 

I'd love any missing DSPs as Joze said. There are 2007 shows missing - I know they must have Las Vegas 2007 (we still don't even know what was over Points of Authority at that show... wild), probably some Europe shows before Projekt Rev. They didn't just decide to record every single show with Projekt Rev - they probably recorded some leading up to it. Maybe not all. But would love the missing 2007 shows, there is an entire 2008 tour missing in Europe which has amazing setlists. 2009 has missing shows. 2012.

 

They can easily just toss random shows out over time, like X Games 2012, KROQ 2012 - there is nothing released from 2013, 2014, 2015, 2017 for full shows. Would love to see them release a 3-4 shows per year somehow online from the vault; I'd buy them all. A shame we are missing so many good shows - Europe 2007, Europe 2008, Australia 2013, Asia 2013 specifically. The early 2015 shows were really good too.

I think most of all I would love to see a full pro shot of either of the 2017 UK shows, we know they recorded video in at least 2 of them and these were by far the largest setlist the band ever played live. On top of that, there were some collabs and performances were pretty good. I know the band might not have been in the right place to edit them when OML Live released, but it would have been great if it were a DVD+CD release like the previous lives.

On 2/17/2024 at 12:36 AM, KiddIsAlive said:

I think the hype is more about possible implications for the band's future than about the actual release. But it's not to be taken for granted that we'll actually get something out of it.

That being said, a new song (with Chester!) is still a new song and as other said above, I'll take any unpublished material from the band at this stage.

 

Honestly, the only way this could be an actually interesting release as a whole is if it's a live compilation from rare shows, or some "Best Performances" kind of thing, but I don't have much faith in that.

I know this is probably impossible but going on the idea of best performances, I'd love to see them release studio versions of their favorite live versions of songs (Like faint with the extended outro, WFTE with wall of sound, etc), I think that would add a lot of value to a compilation of this nature

I know it seems to be the overall mood of this topic, but will this be ever over?  🤣

I agree about Tokyo being the best one. Particularly the bass and the piano added so much flavor (And at times it felt a little Anime Opening-esque 😅), it kind of reminds me a little bit of Miyavi too. 

On a side note, it seems like Already Over wants to dethrone Breaking the Habit in the number of non-DSP releases lol. Can't wait for Mike's next project: "Is it really over? Like for real?"

That looks like a fun prank.... hopefully someone subs it at some point 

18 hours ago, LPLStaff said:

Yeah, there is no way ATS was trendy. They started that album for a video game, remember? Catalyst was a wild choice for a single and very risky/bold. Don't think there is that much that's trendy about the LP catalog honestly - it takes so long to make an album the trend at the time is not even the same 18 months later and you can't predict something that far out for what is going to be trendy. Eventually you'll match it up, sure. Meteora was just a continuation of the Hybrid Theory sound but evolving it slightly (masterpiece album).

 

About the sessions: Not sure why In My Head can't be released. That would have been a good one to put out there too.

I'm assuming In my head wasn't released just to keep consistent with the other sessions? So people don't start uproaring why aren't the LP songs released as well.  I assume that in general would have more to do with some personal decision rather than not being allowed to unless someone in the band personally asked him not to do, because I don't see how there could be a copyright issue (considering mike co-wrote those songs, and how copyright works for live performances/covers).

On another topic, I know I'm super late to the session's discussion overall, but I think it would be really fun if Mike went on tour again with a group of sessionist musicians, it would give a lot of range to make fun varied setlist from his catalog to play. Considering how hard it would be to find all LP members without other projects going on, and how limited they would be to play songs without Chester, unless they had a new album to bolster the setlists with it would be the way to have these songs live, besides a tribute band. Also, that would open the chance for other LP members to show up as guests on specific dates according to their availability and to spice things up.

6 hours ago, Rasputin 93 said:

Does anyone have the individual CD front covers scanned without watermark? I would like to use each for my digital audio files instead of the golden HT soldier for all 80 tracks.

+1

For anyone that watched the stream... did they say anything noteworthy in the q&a?

On 10/5/2020 at 7:46 AM, letdownagain said:

I’m slightly inclined to agree with you, but there’s some things I question. One would be that it looks like your using NTSC aspect ratio, whereas the master source being from a German station is probably PAL.

 

On top is that the HD rebroadcast that exists at 720, which means that the station either has a higher quality source to work from, or already upscaled from their master. 
 

The modern Doctor Who releases (up to Series 5) come to mind. The source is PAL 720x576. While the Blu-Ray upscales to 1080, the US DVD release has to downscale to 720x480. 

I think they most likely upscaled it from their master, in which case they would be better off letting players do the upscaling (for broadcasting probably it makes more sense to stream in the intended displaying resolution). It would be crazy for them to record a yearly festival that runs for 2 days on film, sounds crazy expensive considering not many concerts from RaR get proper releases.

19 hours ago, davg1992 said:

 

I think you don't understand what I mean. A remaster song in 24bit will never sound as good as a new recording in 24bit, just as a film upscaled to 1080p or higher will never look as good as a film recorded in hd.

The comparison is bad because, while here they're reworking audio already recorded and limited by the masters quality, film is an analog format that for the most part has a lot more quality than original releases might have shown.

I'm betting most if not all of the footage was recorded on tape instead of film (specially RaR 2001, since it was recorded with a TV broadcast in mind), and if that's correct then there's not a lot of upscaling they could have done to get any better than 640x480. Now, if the video has weird scanlines or not that usually has to do with the fact of having an interlaced image instead of a progressive one (480p vs 480i).

Quality aside, I guess Blu-ray would have been more compact, but less accesible. Personally I think DVD was a better call because such a huge amount of content would have required several menus that usually drag on forever in some blu-ray players. 

6 hours ago, JZLP-AmendsUltimateFan said:

Seems like we are celebrating Mark's career, so much stuff with him on vocals 

 

He was awful i just wished that everything was Chester vocals. 

3 songs out of a 5 cd + 3 dvd  boxet? I get you don't like the guy on vocals, but is it necessary to be so exaggerated and dramatic?

I didn't know where to post this but it might be uselful to bring it up. I was looking for something on ebay when I found a lot of people selling unused tickets from Project revolution 2007 and 2008. There are plenty of them and they have more or less decent photos. They might be useful to fill up some shows where we don't have ticket scans.

https://www.ebay.ca/itm/Linkin-Park-Tickets-2-Rare-Unused-Projekt-Revolution-Aug-31-2007-Noblesville-IN/253063624602?hash=item3aebc4779a:g:xSQAAOSwB4NWv38a

On 8/3/2020 at 11:22 AM, hahninator said:

Interesting. Jeff is probably not involved in the band's HT20 celebration because they don't have a good relationship with him (see: "Get Me Gone" by Fort Minor, & Mike's stream where he mentioned the "In the End" demo). So this is his opportunity to cash in on the album anniversary and blowout.

 

No doubt there will be good info here, and great photos especially. Check the photos of Chester on the cover without flames, and also of Mike's Xero tape. He saw Xero at the Whisky, so he probably has awesome info and photos. Jeff was very instrumental to LP getting signed and getting them to Warner but it's a shame he made the band so mad after they started recording the album.

What did Mike said over the stream? I'm very out of the loop

On 8/10/2020 at 11:11 AM, JZLP-AmendsUltimateFan said:

 

 

It's cool that there's people that appreciate our work, i asked Hahninator to promote our project on the newswire/social media but sadly there wasn't interest in doing that. 

 

By far this is the best compilation ever, specially album 2 cause every rare performance is on it

 

Album 1 is great too is based on our opinion probably there are better options 

 

Sorry for not fixing the mistake of Iridescent. 

I've been away for a while but I'm excited to hear it. I think the playlist per "CD" are a bit long though. I think an approach similar to "live around the world" they did before LIVING THINGS would be awesome in that regard (perhaps even filling the voids with other proshots?)

10 hours ago, LPLStaff said:

 

Fuse was likely not recorded in studio after the Xero tape. That's why. Same about Reading My Eyes with Chester, probably never recorded it with him.

 

Part of Me is the only song that logically seems to be left out for some reason, yes.

Oof... this always reminds me of the major boomer that was not getting pro-shot audio or video from when they were playing it in 2008. They nailed it on that tour