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So I recently got a Dolby Atmos compatible surround system at home so I thought I will give this a try and to be honest Hybrid Theory sounds really messy in my opinion. The guitars kick in awkwardly, some instruments and background vocals are pushed super hard into the back of the room and to the side that it just sounds awkward. In general it sounds like some kind of weird compression is going on on each separate channel that makes the volume from each direction vary a lot and it sounds really random. And I doubt it‘s my system. More modern songs which probably got their atmos mix during their initial mixing phase done as well sound so much better (but still awkward). After assuming that this is just a weird gimmick when I first read about it I will stand by my assumption after experiencing it. I will definitely never sit down and listen to the Atmos mix ever again.

On 11/28/2022 at 6:27 AM, YRQRM0 said:

Didn't we also get a snipped of a My December remix in some video that never got released?

Are you talking about the cinematic version that was used for the game awards? That was never announced for an official release or anything else like that. I was always convinced that it was just put together for the game awards show. 

20 hours ago, KlaytonShinoda said:

What happened to the other 20th anniverasry Reanimation remixes? If there were plans of releasing more.

I am sure they will be released once we get the final remix of the Living Things preorder remixes lol

I think the wording in the news post is misleading. It‘s not like LP went out of their way to release this as an official remix that is promoted by the band. The remixer asked the label if he is allowed to release and publish it and they came to an agreement. 
It‘s a horrible remix. I have no idea who in their right mind would give this an okay. It will show up on the bands profile on every single streaming platform for forever. 

I thought this item will exchange the owner for a shitload of money so I didn't even consider bidding on it. Didn't expect no one to bid on it lol. 

NRL on ATL on Spotify is all I needed. I thought we have to wait for some anniversary release of the album. 

Seems like it was delisted. I can't find any other listing on any other website so I am wondering if that product page was setup too early and maybe the release date isn't finalized yet?

22 minutes ago, FaiNt said:

I see people even in real estate talking about using nft for deeds/ownership/land/etc.

Crypto people talk about it. No one besides crypto enthusiasts see it as a viable solution for ownership proof for example since you need to have a central authority that honors that ownership anyway. Decentralization makes no sense here (like it is with pretty much everything crypto claims to solve). 
 

I also hate where the discussion is going here. If you dislike something Mike is doing you are suddenly a hater? I was always more interested in what Mike did, went to every possible FM/MS show, watched every single stream for more than one year, etc and now suddenly I am a hater because I have a critical view of what he does? People get on twitter levels of „I have to protect my favorite artist, no matter what“ on here and it‘s embarrassing. 

If a person is promoting and participating in something that I think is morally and ethically wrong, then it will surely affect me and my opinion of this person.
It‘s fine if other people don‘t care but I think it is totally understandable if people have a strong opinion here. 
 

7 hours ago, LPLStaff said:

He preaches all the time about like, "don't get into NFTs if you don't know what you are doing" to the LP fans. In that regard, he isn't being careless about being a "leader" for some folks in that area.

sorry, but this is plain out wrong by now. He said things like „people think this is bigger than bitcoin“, „prices usually go up after the first mint“, „embrace the fomo“ etc. He is making people afraid of missing out on something. If he hypes up something and then puts a small disclaimer at the end it doesn‘t free him up of all responsibility. 

1 hour ago, Wilderness said:

I really don't like the forcefulness of crypto-minded people, and unfortunately this is something that I'm seeing from Mike.

Here's another stance: why can't I just not give a fuck about NFT's and that be okay? Why can't NFT circle-jerkers be okay that other people don't want to get involved? If you're personally really raking it in, then why are you so desperate for EVERYONE to get involved?! Starting to sound like those spam adverts you get... "see how this single mum makes £250,000 per WEEK in your area!!"

I think there are some people (and I hope Mike is part of this group) that sincerely believe that it’s something great and revolutionary but for a big group it‘s simple: people who view it as a speculative asset and who are invested in it need a constant flow of new money into the system. It‘s the same as with crypto currencies or the stock market: once people stop pouring money into it, the prices will stagnate at best or the market will crash since people start to liquidate their assets without any new influx of money. Convincing new people to invest their money into it is the easiest way to guarantee more cash. 

The image/tweet is (obviously) highly misleading but I had to laugh out really hard 😄

I wasn't sure if I should post anything here since the whole topic is so off putting to me and I lost all my interest in Mike as an artist.

Instead of reconsidering his view and maybe observe the space and just doing his thing he keeps on doubling down while obviously having very limited knowledge and understanding of what he is talking about. Which is fine, he is an arist, not a tech person, so it is given that his knowledge about technical stuff is limited. But he should accept that instead of starting a completely misleading discussion. It's the same problem I have with his NFT obsession since the start: he misleads his followers about the whole NFT thing, even though he most probably (and hopefully) doesn't intend to. He is a role model to so many people and people will trust his opinion and ideas. People will put their money into NFTs just because of his opinions without understanding what they are getting into. In the end it's their own fault, but he has to be aware of his position and act accordingly. He did that very carefully in the start but I feel like that's completely lost and it's getting worse and worse.

But I am just repeating what I posted before, here are some thoughts about a couple of the recent tweets that make it super obvious that he doesn't really know what he is talking about and why he should be more careful with the whole topic.

That tweet sums up that he still hasn't quite understood what the problem with crypto regarding energy consumption is. Youtube, twitch, and every other company along those lines try to minimize their energy usage to a minimum. Every CPU cycle and therefore watt twitch is saving, is more money in their pocket. And, guess what, twitch wants to have as much money in their bank account as possible, so they try everything possible to save energy. Crypto on the other side (at least proof of work blockchains like Ethereum) intentionally wastes energy by design. Multiple useless calculations are done just to verify a transaction. Dozens of computers do really complex math, of which the result will be thrown away, just so they can tell the blockchain that they are really trying hard to keep the blockchain running and then they can confirm a transaction. When you do a payment with your credit card, one server at mastercard for example will check the balance in a database, tell the system that the transaction is fine and then just add it. Both examples are heavily simplified but it is obvious that Mastercard is doing the most efficient thing (because that's what saves them money) while crypto is doing a convoluted mess by design just to keep the system working.

How out of touch can you be to not know that crypto is affecting the chip shortage that is going on since like 2 years? Every single person who wants to buy anything from a phone, a new PS5, a GPU to a car is affected by it since ages. Even toner cartridges are fucked by now because of it. If you have no clue about the part crypto plays in it you have no place of being a person who publicly defends crypto in general. People lose jobs at factories because car manufacturers can't get enough chips while he is definding owning a freaking JPEG. Obviously the chip shortage is happening because of many factors and crypto is not the only reason behind it but it is still part of the problem that puts more pressure on an already bad problem.

Not a single gamer likes micro transaction. They put up with it because there is no way around it. Look at the bullshit FIFA is pulling with FIFA Ultimate Team since years and tell me that's a system we should embrace and take even further.

Games like Ghost of Tsushima are possible because Sony can invest millions into a project like that. If people stop buying skins and other in game items from the developer, because they can just trade them back and forth from other persons, the publishers won't make enough money to fund huge projects anymore. 

I just picked out a couple of tweets where I thought I have something additional to say that wasn't already discussed broadly on twitter. There are so many more things in the twitter replies.

/rant

1 hour ago, Cesar656 said:

Nft hating crybabies

And one day crypto bros will understand that people have informed opinions and might dislike something for valid reasons. 
The „crypto bros“ part is obviously a joke but being super dismissive and acting like other people just don‘t get it is super shitty behavior which is also ingrained in the whole crypto scene so one more reason not to like it. 

What a great surprise. That was my second LP show. It was also the only time that I queued up super early to get into the first row. Thanks for sharing it.

I am confused. Brad doesn‘t show up in the credits for the song. 

11 minutes ago, Robrobbsen said:

I think around the time mike really started streaming and was taking the questions he got asked about it and his answer was something like "oh yeah, I could do that" 

and then we never heard anything about it again🙄

Yeah that was me. It was when he got partnered status. I proposed it as an incentive for subscribers. He took a note of it but I guess it will never happen. 

I am afraid of a future where the proper versions are erased from the internet. How does no one at the band, management or label care about this issue? No Roads Left sounds like a joke.

I don't really get this. Music is usually created from the beginning to end with stereo in mind (excluding movie scores). Every other form/mix is just an afterthought, created with whatever was available. I wouldn't be surprised if no one in the band ever heard the surround version, let alone approving it. For me this sounds more like a fun gimmick feature to sell a service.

I am probably nitpicking here but the title sounds misleading to me. It makes it sound like the song was written as a tribute to Chester which isn‘t the case. 

The logo they went with definitely aged way better than most of the other ideas. Some of them look even older than 2007. 

1 hour ago, Justin said:

If this were true, what would the incentive be for him repeatedly and explicitly saying that LP is not "done"?

 

It's known now that LP was actively working on new material before the pandemic.

He hasn‘t said that LP is „not done“ in ages if I am not mistaken. Also it is totally possible that they were working on new material, they didn‘t liked it and later ob decided that it‘s not working for them anymore. 
I am not saying that this is the case or whatever, just want to point out that those points are not a 100% indicator that they are not done. 

MTM was also the time when they started headlining all the big festivals. 

8 minutes ago, Stranger said:

 

already got mine few days ago. they sent out an email previously saying that the will shipped it in late March. finally got it after 5 months of waiting. 

Just checked the site I ordered it from and there it says that shipping is estimated in May now. Wow.

Did anyone get theirs yet? Wasn‘t the release supposed to be in March?

This thread confuses me a lot.