GlassCastles

23 minutes ago, sordomuda said:

you got the point but that means the rest of the members really didnt contribute in the writing process from what i understand. 

There's a very good chance they didn't contribute much to the writing of the other albums too. The Messenger was entirely Chester, Mike, and Brad, but all 6 members have a writing credit. CFTI is basically all Joe with some help from Mike, but all 6 members have a writing credit (except for Phoenix cause he only got credit on the Xero era songs for HT). If you told me 90% of the band's catalog was written by exclusively Mike, Brad, and Chester with Joe, Phoenix, and Rob just playing the parts Mike wrote for them/maybe giving them their own flair, I'd believe you. Until OML, they'd pretty much just slapped all their names on every song they released cause it was basically all in-house so if that's how they wanted to split the songwriting royalties/credit, they could with no issue. Once you start bringing in third-parties, though, you have to look at who's actually contributing to the writing process and credit them as such; both for actual royalties and just as an etiquette/respect thing.

1 hour ago, JZLP said:

 

Just listen to Post Traumatic, almost every damn song is about losing control of everything. 

 

Yup, cause losing one of your best friends and trying to make sense of everything in the wake of that reads the exact same as wanting to dictate to others and feeling like you must always be in charge. You really are an expert of analysis, truly. I'm genuinely not sure at this point if you actually believe half of what you say on here or if you just like being contrarian to stir the pot.

20 minutes ago, graveguard said:

I have no experience with that stuff myself, but I would assume that the whole song writing credits thing gets way more complicated and formal once you include that many other writers so the band can't just be like "oh by the way, we are also going to add every other band member as a song writer. Deal with it".

And this is exactly it. Songwriters basically get paid from a different pot than performing artists/labels. Writing something entirely in-house and then splitting it equally among the band members is pretty common. Having other writers on the project and still splitting everything equally among band members who didn't actually write on the songs/letting them double up is very, very uncommon and downright disrespectful to the other writers.

3 hours ago, castro78 said:

Guess I was wrong. Sometimes I forget that a lot of you are still children with weird obsessions. 

Well I see you haven't changed at all

1 hour ago, JZLP said:

Sorry For Chipmunks your #2 pick? Damn that's interesting 

You've had almost 3 years to come up with a new/better joke man, come on

Here's what I wound up with. Having COG vs OML so early really stung

32 minutes ago, JZLP said:

Ninja or Zangief is Geki

(spoiler it's both lol)

They can't really market it as Chester's "lost music" if people already have access to it because it came out in the 90s. Of course they're gonna try and stamp out whatever they can of the old stuff. That's what people who only care about $$$ would do.

1 hour ago, JZLP said:

LP has released tons of super expensive deluxe merch I don't see what is the deal, look at Mike selling stupid ass vinyl jackets with ugly graffiti on them i don't remember the price but they were very expensive. 

If Mike were selling jackets that blatantly exploited Chester's image and persona, I'd agree with you. What he did instead was sell jackets and merch that made use of his own personal brand that he had never used prior, with LP or otherwise. No one is saying Grey Daze can't or shouldn't exist, nor that they can't use Chester in the marketing (he's on the album so it'd be ridiculous to do otherwise). Using images of him performing with another band that is the only reason anyone cares about this album and basing everything on the idea that "he's gone so now this is his lost music" just screams cashgrab.

Wow this is really not good. Shame cause Mike and Lights is kind of a dream collab, but this is very easily the worst of the Aoki tracks

Then the issue isn't with Castro (that could be taken real bad out of context lol) or anyone else with a negative opinion about the band. If fans can't take any amount of criticism towards the thing they like without lashing out against them, that's a sad reflection on them. I'm not expecting an "Oh, you're right the song IS bad" response. Just a "If that's your take then that's your take" or, even better, a "What about it don't you like". Something that encourages actual discussion or at the very least isn't outright dismissive of someone's opinion.

1 hour ago, Broman said:

 

No, you're a better fan when you realize you don't care for the song and choose to move on and listen to something else rather than talk about how it's "shit" here. 

I don't even know why you're complaining. You want people that don't bow down and praise "every song ever made", then don't come straight to an LP forum, attack something LP related, and expect to come out like everything is fine. You may as well jump into a lion's cage with raw meat and wonder why it's trying to attack you

Oh come on that's ridiculous. So the only responses that should be allowed are positive ones? He said the song sounded bad, didn't say anyone who liked it was dumb or had bad taste or anything, and then everyone piled on. There wasn't a discussion or debate or anything like that. Just "lol guess Geki's back" and "wow you hate something what else is new". He doesn't like the song, and he's allowed to say as much

Guys, the man's allowed to dislike the song...

1. What I've Done (2020 Version)

2. When They Come For Me

3. Good Goodbye/Bleed It Out

4. Roads Untraveled

5. Nobody Can Save Me

6. Iridescent (2020 Version)

7. Castle Of Glass

8. Sorry For Now (Ext. Bridge w/ 'High Voltage' v1)

9. Until It Breaks (Shortened (Through Chester's Verse))

10. Waiting For The End/Hands Held High (Apaches Intro w/ 'Until It Breaks' v3; Sing-a-Long Outro)

11. Invisible

12. Numb (2020 Version; Oppenheimer Outro)

13. Burning In The Skies

14. Heavy

15. Leave Out All The Rest (2017 Version)

16. Final Masquerade

17. Papercut (2020 Intro; Ext. Outro)

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18. Blackout (Shortened (Outro Only))

19. One More Light

20. Rebellion (Ext. Bridge w/ 'A Place For My Head' v1)

21. In The End

How would sales be impacted at all? The vast majority, if not all, physical sales would happen online and obviously streaming/digital downloads wouldn't be impacted at all. They're not touring on this. If they said vinyl/CD shipments were delayed until later, that'd make sense, but postponing the whole album is strange.

Yeah I thought the whole thing here is that this is "Chester's lost music"  or whatever. It'd make more sense to capitalize on that and use old pictures of Chester

18 hours ago, Diaux said:

Pretty lame that a lot of the leaks have glitches or just problems in generals (all the LYF drums mixed on one track, or the tempo fluctuations on the meteora instrumentals).

I should thank the guy who made the proper version 😋

Well, the LFY stems are from Rock Band, so that's less of a glitch/problem and more of just how it works with those games.

46 minutes ago, RogueSoul said:

if I’m entirely honest, I didn’t really care much about this project.

I'm actually still kinda here to be honest. If they want to maximize profits off this and use this for money, whatever. Kinda scummy, but do you what you think you gotta do I guess. It's that they're touting this as some altruistic thing with honoring Chester and his legacy or whatever that really gets me. I'm pretty tolerant of a lot of things, but blatantly lying to people about having good intentions and treating people like they're dumb is kinda where I draw the line. Being a scumbag honestly is one thing, but lying and acting like you have some noble agenda is a whole other ballgame.

Because Chester is gone and so anything he's involved in has skyrocketed in value, so a band that was associated with him nearly 3 decades ago feels like they can make a nice, quick profit under the guise of honoring him/preserving his legacy. Maybe it started with good intentions, but it has absolutely spiraled from there and is one of the most blatant cashgrabs I've ever seen, especially from a so-called "brotherhood"

23 hours ago, JZLP said:

Back then it was a privilege an honor 

Dude what? You paid money to be part of a fan club. It wasn't some exclusive thing, it wasn't limited in any way. In no way was it ever a privilege or an honor. Not saying this new merch bundle is outstanding but come on lol

That's very clearly vocals. It's been run through a ton of effects, but it's absolutely singing

He didn't do anything from the LPU albums either so we really need to just throw the whole show away

It ended hours ago

Bubblegum pop is an actual specific genre of music, one that OML doesn't even really come close to. It's definitely a pop album (with stuff like TTM leaning a bit more towards pop rock I guess), but it isn't bubblegum pop for sure.

I've always seen Brad as more of a producer than a straight guitarist. Like, he's not the most technical player out there, but he's pretty good at figuring out what a song needs rather than just trying to be flashy all the time. 

I feel like this was super hyped before it happened and then once it happened, it was kind of underwhelming. Maybe it was because this was a one off thing and not a whole "HT in full" tour, but I feel like once it happened, everyone kind of just went "oh alright".