[AndOne]

Source 2 on the show page, like I said nothing unknown. I have a couple of 2006 pics for BOW, FM, JK that I've wanted to add to the show pages for a while but I think they are on my other computer.

It's from Club Tattoo 2005. not an unknown show/recording.

They came out a few days early when they were still selling them at BestBuy (LPU6 through 9), that's right. I wouldn't really call that a leak though. Since LPUX the CD's can't possibly leak cause they aren't shipped until you order it after the launch.

LPU CD's never leaked, I don't think that will ever change.

Cool, might be going to the Cologne one if the date works out for me etc. I'd definitely have one rather soon with a preview of LPU13. If it wasn't for meeting old friends and possibly making a few more new ones it sounds pretty boring so far imo.

I'm pretty sure they'll delay the adding to the BMI sites as much as they can, especially after we found out about it last time, which was only a few days before the CD came out. Also this method doesn't help with alternate versions of already released songs.

Well they kind of did that with LPUX, it was available earlier for the first summit in London.

Why shouldn't they? It's an lpu event close to LPU13, they know people are dying to know more. And why should they abandon the demo CDs? LPU sessions is 2 tracks maxium, maybe just one. Unless they are releasing a 2 track CD I don't see how they abandon the demo CD's.

I hope we get some decent info from it like the tracklist. I can't wait any longer. I'd bet not a whole lot people will go to this. Does Machine Shop have an european office or something or do they fly in an employee all the way from the US? I'm pretty sure they have more Meet Ups planned, at least that would make sense to me. Dublin is a very random location.

Just saw in the LPU collectors thread, apparently there's a Meteora vinyl re-issue coming out as gold vinyl. No idea about Hybrid Theory though. I'm sure we'll get official info about that soon.

They picked the wrong songs to introduce demos with scat vocals, I guess. I like them but it's hard to be satisfied when you know the other versions exist too, and we don't know why these were picked instead of the other one.

Possible, Aoki has no 2014 shows listed yet.

I already asked over at the LPU and I'll try here as well. Does anyone have a spare LPU12 laminate for sale? I know the LPU store still has them for sale, but they include a membership that I don't really need.

Do you think they'll play these tracks in clubs?

One of the winners, there were 2 winners.

They just cut it, those were really weird anyway. I don't miss them. It made ATL a ton better by far.

Seems to be something similar to the Mayan show in 2011. I guess it's a real show, if it was just for 20 people it would be at Third Encore. Yes, they did Chiba in 2012 as well but those weren't real shows, just short TV performances.

I think the only real risk they took with MTM was not to release a carbon copy of HT and Meteora. WID for example was still a standard LP formula song imo.Like you said, ATS with The Catalyst was the real game changer. When the stems of Catalyst were released no one could imagine what the song is supposed to sound like. For Living Things being so rushed I think it's still a solid record.

Other bands don't have the guts cause it would probably ruin their career. Of course Recharged was not a surprise like you said, we already had half of the songs, which were horrible already (depending on the personal taste).

I think all those LPU9 edits are still very basic edits like volume or adjust starts and endings with fades etc. I'm sure that's something they've done with most of the CD's. LPU9 is just the one where we know that it happened. I don't think they go as far as removing certain elements from songs. The MTM demos either have Mike vocals or no vocals (except the finished songs), Astbestos is just pure speculation. I hope we are getting track descriptions again and that MIKE does it again. Who was it last time, Phoenix right? "I have never heard this song before"...

The WID remix and POA had very minor changes that's right, Forgotten had no changes. I wouldn't call ITE or Esaul a waste, I think they are different and special enough. If it wasn't for Adam we'd probably had a lot more stuff on there that we already have. WID and Forgotten might be just accidents, who knows, it's too late to change that now anyway. I think when a CD has 10 tracks and 1 or 2 tracks are not really new that's something I can easily accept. Sad and stick n move, those were are release waste. The most what we got before LPU8/9 were live tracks. The LPU CDs are probably they only releases where they don't mass recycle previously released stuff.

I think all the people who don't know much about the band will see this as their new direction. Radio stations play ALTNC and some people go what the fuck is this. There's a ton of recent interviews where it says they are not going EDM with the next album and even without, if you know anything about this band and call yourself a fan you should know better that they won't do that anyway, a band that calls MTM a huge risk.

Ah yes, I saw that the other day too but I wasn't 100% sure if that was really the legit version.

I think that a few other bands have released fan club CD's or released a couple of demos to a fan club but I'm pretty sure no other bands has released as many demos as LP has.

The only track that I like right now is ALTNC, the rest is not my cup of tea.