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There is so much about this that we don't even know. Kyle has never been advertised as being a full-time band member. Nor did he sign a large contract with them. So, was the band being kind by offering some money? If he isn't a songwriter, he may get some performance credit money from the band. He's trying to claim he was a songwriter. That's going to be pretty hard to prove either way.

It's all going to come down to who has the best lawyers. Warner has a massive legal team. In the end, they may just pay him to shut him up and make this go away.

There is too much buried in the details of what happened with the band in 1999 with him to know exactly who is entitled to what, hence why this situation is now a legal matter. The fans nor likely Kyle himself probably even know what the full deal is here.

What stuck out to me is - he claims he's on She Couldn't...?

And he doesn’t want to release an album? lol

Are these the LPCatalog directors cut versions? The intro screen makes it seem like they are. If so, they are a little different than the ones that appeared on iTunes. The long ones. I have the LPC DVD rip and can check. 

What sense does it make to debut two songs this early when Lost is number one all over? lol

Keep the hype going? 
 

But couldn’t they save these for singles the rest of the year?

22 hours ago, Coizu said:

What's really interesting are the other music videos they reference. The BTH reference is obvious, but there are also some SIB scenes etc.

But what really confuses me are the New Divide references. How do those fit it?

How do they not? They are a part of Linkin Park’s career. Waiting for the End and Fine are in there. It’s comprehensive about Chester, it isn’t just Meteora. 

6 hours ago, Ex97 said:

Cool video thank you ! By the way Mike keeps saying in interviews that YouTube just came out when Meteora did but he is wrong haha YouTube didn’t come out until spring 2005 but still it’s funny! Can’t fault him it was so long ago. But thought it was funny. 

It’s the same era so it’s easy to see why he’d be confused. They played shows in 2005 way before the MTM era even started. 

That lyric isn’t in the song. 

1 hour ago, AJ93 said:

I am so ready to hear it on friday. we need to do lyric for Lost. Also, it doesn't sound like a demo. it really sounded like a finalized song.

Because they fully finished 15 Meteora songs. It isn’t a demo. It’s a legit complete song. 

1 hour ago, RYG4R said:

I can't really distinguished Across the Line's differences between the two versions. Which bass are we referring to? I compared the two versions both of them doesn't have bass on first verse.

0:21 bass starts on the LPU 9 version. No bass in verse one on the alternate version. 

3 hours ago, Justin said:

If he sold a 30-40 second clip of a Twitch jam for $30,000 and is now selling his typed out name, it seems like he's not doing this as a way to give the top 1% of the fanbase exclusive items but it's rather his way of saying "If these guys want to give me tens of thousands of dollars for pretty much nothing, I'll take it. Why not?" Which is kind of weird but it's not like he's putting up LP demos or unreleased music for sale.

 

This still isn't a Once Upon A Time In Shaolin situation. Yet.

Great point. There’s truly no harm at all in doing it. It’s just a new concept to people but very foreign to them at the same time. If people want to pay it...go right ahead lol

Rare post from me these days.

I don't see any harm in Mike trying something new here. LP/Mike have always been innovative when it comes to releasing things, trying new methods of releasing stuff, etc. He's given away some songs on Twitch for free lately too. This isn't incentivized by money, I mean Mike is one of the most selfless guys in the whole world of music. He is right when he says the fans are determining the value, I mean no way did he think a random Twitch instrumental jam probably most of his Twitter followers have never heard of would get to $10,000.

I spent some time discussing it with fans on Twitter with the LPLive account the past day. It seems like a lot of us still don't understand how this works, and I think Mike not explaining it at the start when he announced it just further compounded the issues. It's a very foreign concept and people want to know detailed specifics - if Mike will only sell this exactly once, if the winner can hold on to it forever and the song is never heard by anyone else (like the Wu-Tang Clan example Mike gave), if the winner can turn around and sell 20 copies of the song for $5,000 each, etc. When he said "you are not buying a song", that made it even harder to comprehend it. He technically is arguing it's a .MOV file with the full song (and probably some skull artwork attached to it in movie form) instead of a song, but it IS a song - just in a movie format. He says "you are not the owner of the song", but Mike's definition of owning a song and a fan's definition of owning a song are much different - like yes copyright wise, Mike is right and yes, download-wise, the fan is right.

One thing I don't understand is when he says if he put a song up for download on the streaming platforms, he wouldn't get much money. But the Zora website says he is getting only 15% of $10,000 with this purchase. How is that any more money than the streaming platforms? It seems like a large loss compared to those, actually.

The Wu-Tang example was a bad one for him to use because if you imply that it's similar to that, then fans will make the logical assumption that the buyer can purchase the track and it is never heard by the masses. That's exactly what happened with Wu-Tang - Martin bought it, went to jail and the US government seized the CD, never to be heard. Now people think the auction winner for $10,000 can hold on to the track and no one will ever hear it, lol

The fact that most fans don't understand terms and abbreviations like NFT, WEFT, cryptoart, cryptocurrency, blockchain, etc has made this quite difficult to understand. He says he will release more music this way and that's cool, but it'd be nice if he explained on a stream more about it. In the clips I saw on Twitter, I believe he said he was going to release this to streaming for fans but is just selling the one copy. He has every right to do that since he made the song, what's the harm in him trying that?

1 hour ago, NJPLP said:

Agreed, who do we contact and where do we look? I was searching it up and I only found stuff on the original Xero demo tape. That's it.

 

Edit: Can't find any specific information on the demos themselves.

This information just got revealed in a book. Of course there is no information online about this stuff, it just came out. Lmao.

There is no way we will get this stuff anytime soon, if ever. It's just notes about what was going on in the 1997-2000 era.

Which probably includes that re-arranged version of And One, too.

Well the tracking does stop once it leaves the USA, usually. But it shouldn't take weeks. If it doesn't arrive in the next week then I'd report it as lost. In my experience, my European packages were delivered within 5-7 days of leaving the USA.

3 hours ago, Coizu said:

How reliable are those information? Can we assume that he had some written records of everything or is some of that based on his memory?

He has the DATs, lyric sheets, and written notes from Mike about each of the songs. And the photos of the Xero tapes are in there. This is legit stuff. He even puts descriptions of some of them, Ashes is the Xero Reborn song. He transcribes some of the words in it, even.

Ashes: Started with studio banter. Brad goes "Mike perfect tempo, give me any number and I can rap to it, ready? 100? Go!"

Jeff said "I love the Spanish guitar, and Mike your lyrics are really cool. You're telling a story, which is really nice. I like Chester's cinematic lyrics and how they interplay with the Spanish guitar."

Jeff Blue is a POS but I ordered it and it'll be here Thursday; no way we can skip this at least from the archivists' point of view.

6 hours ago, LPMaskMan said:

I guess these are inaudible due to licensing issues.

Well they are at the Rock am Ring show.

20 hours ago, lpliveusername said:

I think it's not supposed to look like this, but we confirmed some time ago that the US lithograph is slightly blurry too. The EU version just looks worse.

Yes. US one is slightly blurry. EU one was worse, but it looks like it's fixed back to what the US one is now.

On 11/14/2020 at 6:13 AM, Coizu said:

The backstage pass is now laminated but the cut out to put it on a lanyard or whatever isn't part of the backstage pass itself anymore but instead they extended the laminated plastic and did the cut out there, so still a minor difference to the US version (but at least it is properly laminated now, so it's all good).

That's what real passes should look like, yours is like what actual tour passes are. So yours is actually better than the US one now haha

22 minutes ago, Zoom said:

From: https://lplive.net/forums/topic/14370-hybridtheory20-press/

Does anyone have any information about the sample that was cleared?

I read somewhere in the chat that it was: https://www.whosampled.com/sample/368422/Barry-White-I-Only-Want-to-Be-With-You-Isaac-Hayes-Breakthrough/
Is it really true?

http://linkinpedia.com/index.php?title=Pictureboard

"The sample in question is a Barry White drum sample. The outro drum loop in the song was taken from a version of "I'm Gonna Love You Just A Little More Baby" performed by Jimmy Smith."

Wow you're right, actually. That's one hell of a find. Maybe the song is quieter in the verses than we would have originally guessed.

I don't understand why the LP store would have these for 30 minutes and not restock them. Makes no sense to me. I understand there is a demand for them but why would they not have enough to even last for a day or two?

They don't sound like the same song to me. It's a full band deal on the Summer Sanitarium video, and this is just a simple beat with Joe scratching over it on the LPUTV video. It doesn't seem like the same thing at all.

I actually didn't hate the remix. I don't love it and it's not something I'll listen to again, but it isn't terrible to me. I thought the instrumental was good.

On 10/31/2020 at 8:50 AM, SFNL14 said:

Is sharing of these songs allowed? If yes, can someone please share?

Sure, I don't see why not. You can post it here. I am a subscriber and never received the one before this, but I did get this one. The sub feature is so weird on Twitch, it seems like it's broken. 

The last thing I expected out of this was some Fever333 fan from France arguing with me on Twitter saying how shameful it is I don't like the cover, lmao