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2 hours ago, JZLP said:

Sorry For Chipmunks your #2 pick? Damn that's interesting 

There's something about the way that song comes together in the second and final choruses that I really love. I think it's Mike second best LP vocal performance after No Roads Left.

For the record, I could have advanced BITS instead but the result would have been the same. Iridescent would have won with this bracket.

4 minutes ago, Hybridtheory said:

in my opinion I think they will launch a box of Hybrid theory with CDs, Vinyl, and DVD's of exclusive shows between 2000-2002

just like metallica is re-releasing the albums in a special box

That would be amazing.

It would be awesome if they did a hardcover book with some unreleased photos/artwork and details about the writing and production of each track. The Beatles did that a few years ago for 3 of their albums as the 50th anniversary of each one came around. If they had unreleased photos and details for albums from 50 years ago, I'm sure LP does for Hybrid Theory lol.

16 minutes ago, blackout said:

Here's mine if you're interested. Some of them were really difficult, honestly. Also, don't judge my writing, it was done in the Microsoft Paint so you know... it wasn't comfortable at all.

I did mine in paint too and it looks really similar LOL! Writing Iridescent all those times was irritating.

My bracket

28 minutes ago, Hybrid1988 said:

I am an objectively terrible LP fan. Confirmed.

 

Wretches beat out WFTE in round 1 for me, but juuuust barely. 😅

 

 

It's all subjective lol. In my bracket, Sorry For Now went on a streak and beat Shadow of the Day, The Messenger, Burning in the Skies, and With You. Iridescent took the win in the final round, though.

On 4/26/2020 at 2:02 PM, bogdan971 said:

I think WMG owns their older albums, and Papa Roach lost right to their old songs when they changed label or something like that. They can play them live, but not use them in materials like this.

I understand that the law is the law, but morally it feels fucked up that artists get can copyright strikes against them for using their own songs in a video because they don’t have the rights to them anymore.

So they would need to ask permission from a corporation if it would be alright for them to use their own song in their own video... so the decision lies not with the songwriter who may have a strong personal and/or emotional attachment to the material, but with a group of people who sees the material not as art, but as numbers. As in dollars and cents.

Again I know it’s a business thing, and they signed a contract, but it still just doesn’t feel right.

1. Live in Texas. DVD should have been a full show (not 2 shows edited together), and ideally they would have held off on a DVD until it was a show they headlined.

Also I've always been irritated by Live in Texas having multiple songs removed from it, RTR having 3 songs locked as bonus content, and CC's full DVD performance not including the first songs of the set. They seem to have this weird habit of not just presenting a full, uncut show.

2. Not making an original song with Jay-Z. We know that the issue wouldn't have been that there was no interest from Jay. He produced TRT and performed a few times with LP in the years following CC. An original song with Jay-Z would have been way bigger than a Busta Rhymes collaboration.

3. Going through that period of time where they shortened a bunch of songs to fit everything in. It detracted from the overall quality of those shows. It just wasn't needed.

4. Not playing one show for the entire year of 2016, for multiple reasons and not all of them related to music.

5. The choice to bring in outside songwriters for OML. I understand wanting to experiment with their songwriting, but overall I would have to say the experiment that was OML, while not a bad album, was a miss. It was short and it wasn't particularly strong lyrically or musically. There's also the issue of certain songs, like Heavy, being obvious attempts by LP to keep up with the times and make poppier music. It felt forced, and the Kiiara feature felt like it happened because she's a current pop artist who revealed herself to be an LP fan. The strongest songs on OML are the ones either written by the least amount of writers (SFN) or the ones that were the most inspired and personal (the title track).

1 hour ago, colinreid said:

So I guess this is why Fort Minor might not come back again. Im happy with solo MS music anyway 

I could be wrong, but I'm pretty sure Fort Minor was indeed going to come back before Chester died. I.O.U. and Lift Off were recorded for a Fort Minor project originally, and there probably would have been a Fort Minor album/tour sometime after the OML tour ended. The format itself probably would have been very similar to what we got on the PT tour.

Of course after 7/20 everything changed. Mike recorded/released PT and toured under his real name instead of Fort Minor because the subject matter was a lot more personal.

Just for the record, when I said it "doesn't sound like LP stuff", I meant that when I read Mike's quote it didn't seem to me that he was referring to music he had made with LP in mind. I wasn't commenting on the literal sound of the music he may have made in 2019 lol. The quote came off to me like he was making music alone in 2019, however it sounded, and realized that he had no vision for what he wanted to do with it.

PT was a solo album made as a way for Mike to process the roller coaster of emotions he went through after Chester passed. The question Mike had to answer after that album cycle ended was whether he wanted to make more solo music, or begin working with the members of LP as they became ready to work on music again. His decision to take a step back in 2019 (after what sounds like almost a musical existential crisis), combined with Phoenix confirming that the band was writing together before the coronavirus pandemic, seems to indicate that Mike came to a decision to put his focus back into a new chapter for Linkin Park.

I agree about LP's sound always being mainly Mike's. We saw the demo he made a while back in "HT style", and the "melodic metal" one he made today. We literally have seen LPTV episodes where Mike plays Rob drum parts that he programmed in order for Rob to learn them and record them. Even as far back as 2000, we know Mike chopped up and rearranged the guitar parts for POA to the point that Brad had to learn the song from Mike playing it back to him. So there's definitely no question that LP has always been driven primarily by Mike's vision, despite every member having a voice in the creative process.

I also agree for sure about the LP name. I don't think there will ever be another vocalist officially added into Linkin Park, and I wouldn't feel good about that even if it was the most amazing singer they could possibly find. It's not my decision obviously, but I just don't think it would be right. I can definitely see songs being credited to Linkin Park with another vocalist's name being separated though.

9 minutes ago, PeppePark said:

Mike recently said that he had a lot of music that could have been released in 2019 but he didn't release anything.

"This past year I got kind of down because I was making so many things that weren't seeing the light of the day and I could put them out but it just felt like why? Why? What's the bigger picture? What do they belong to? And I realized just at the beginning of this year maybe a month or two ago that the reason I wasn't committing of putting anything out it was because it didn't feel ambitious enough so I take a step back".

I wonder if that was solo stuff that it felt forced, just to do something new after Post Traumatic or he tried to do Linkin Park stuff but it wasn't the right time yet.

They regularly meet, text and call each other since 2017, so I can totally see them doing a few sessions together here and there, especially after the end of the Post Traumatic tour, plus we have a lot of photos and some videos too of them at Mike's studio, at least since the last few months of 2019.

That doesn't sound like LP stuff. Sounds like after PT he kept making solo music and eventually had a lot of songs, but never felt he had a cohesive album. So he would have had to just throw a bunch of songs together and call it an album, which I don't think is something he would want to do. With PT he had a bunch of songs that fit a theme and flowed naturally with the way he sequenced the songs.

I mean I've heard them out and I can see the logic they're using in order to blame Mike for everything, I just don't agree with it. Like the 2007 stuff, where they said Mike was "too busy on a world tour" to help with their label dispute. That was said in like a sarcastic, snarky way, but really what was he supposed to do? Fly home and put LP on hold in the middle of the MTM cycle until SOB's situation was resolved? Mike got their foot in the door, the rest was always going to be up to them as unfortunate as it was. LP and WB haven't exactly always been on the same page themselves.

The Welcome situation, I do think Mike should have told Ryu his verse wasn't going on the album version. If it really went down that way, with Ryu recording a verse and being there for the video shoot, I can see him being upset about that all getting cut without his knowledge. As far as being mad about not going out on tour in 2015, though, and saying things like "Wow, I guess Fort Minor is just one guy now".... Yeah. Fort Minor has always been one guy. That's why all the songs SOB were on are credited as features.

The platinum plaque situation for RTN is just ridiculously petty. As if Mike could make it all happen with one phone call, but he has so many platinum plaques he can't be bothered to do it. Like it would be the most prized possession for Ryu, but for Mike it's just another day, and he has so little empathy for any of his collaborators on that song that he doesn't care at all. Lmao. Give me a break.

3 minutes ago, Hahninator said:

 

Ha.

 

Similarly, when I'd plug my iPhone into my car via USB, A-Six would always play first no matter what. So now I'm quite sick of the riff.

Every time I plug my phone in, it's About You! So yeah the intro of that song got really old really fast.

It seems like since the beginning the association of Mike with SOB has resulted in nothing but miscommunications, misinterpretations, and straight up bad luck. It’s a pretty classic example of business messing up a personal friendship.

Side note: Didn’t Tak also go off on you and curse you out and stuff? I don’t remember the context or when it happened, but I remember something like that happening some point.

11 hours ago, JZLP said:

No matter what, the songs are so fucking good B12 is a mess but it still better than half of OML.. 

 

I LOVE THE PRODUCTION OF THIS ALBUM 

great team of producers..

 

10000x better than Mike & Brad side project (OML) 

 

 

I really wish you would stop trashing LP as a way to prove your point. It's extremely hypocritical to get defensive when someone criticizes GD if you're going to turn around and say something like that.

I hate that he keeps intentionally missing the point. Nobody is saying that Chester wasn't excited about Grey Daze.

I'm also getting tired of people acting like he isn't obviously implying negative things by saying "no one knew his thoughts on LP" or "if you knew half the shit that Warner Brothers did to Chester and GD".

If Sean has something to say, then he needs to say it. He needs to be direct and stop beating around the bush, or HE needs to be the one to shut the fuck up.

3 hours ago, Robrobbsen said:

I swear to god i would pay 50$ for a new Mike Shinoda sample pack, just hearing some of the stuff in his streams makes me so jealous:(

I mean between the stems that leaked and the rips from Mike's old equipment, we got the equivalent of a whole lot of unauthorized sample packs lol. I'm with you, though. I would pay for an officially released one.

“Is there sunshine where you are? The way there was when you were here?”

These two lines made me more emotional than anything from Post Traumatic. That line caught me super off guard, and Mike sounded so vulnerable.

1 hour ago, JZLP said:

This song must be recorded as simple as possible 

 

Piano and strings that's it. 

 

Mike tried to make One More Light 2 with it that was his mistake. 

Part of me agrees with this. The clips we saw had the song getting more and more elaborate, and at some point they all probably realized that the raw emotion of the performance would get lost in a studio recording.

I would have liked it to be recorded and released as a full band song, but I can't help but agree with Mike's conclusion that LFAA was meant to stay in that moment at the Hollywood Bowl.

Now THAT would be something amazing to include with a HT 20th anniversary release. Chester's audition tape, which led to him being in the band which led to HT even happening.

No.

Chester sung Reading My Eyes when they played it live, obviously, but they didn't re-record those songs with Chester in the studio.

The only time I remember hearing that Mike or anybody in LP was upset personally by any leak was WAYW, which is fundamentally different since that song was not at all slated for release and was never meant to be heard by the public, at least in that form. That's not the same thing as having a completed album leak before it's release date, which happens all of the time to literally anyone with even the slightest buzz surrounding their album.

And again, before someone responds by saying they're right to be angry, that's not the point. If the next big LP release leaks before it's release date, and the official LP twitter posted "If anyone can tell us the individual's name who leaked the album, we would greatly appreciate it" it would be just as pointless and I would say the same thing. Let the label handle that stuff. It should be beneath the band to post things like that. What's done is done. You can't put the genie back in the bottle. The album is out there and that's that. Sorry you chose to delay it and now it's leaked, but that's what happens. Take it as a lesson learned and move on.

1 hour ago, DragorwyinLP said:

 

Do you really shit on them because they did listening party for fans?

It's against law to share your copy with third parties. Wow. I feel sorry for them that didn't think before about it, but I feel more sorry for them about people hating on them in this case. Stealing is still stealing, not matter how it's done.

It's rude when you trusted to share album with CB fans and then the album is going out without any permission. It wasn't an official premiere.

When did anybody "shit on them" for having a listening party for fans??? They were pointing out the fact that it shouldn't be a shock that the stream was recorded.

Albums leak as soon as there's an opportunity for it to happen. Period. It doesn't matter who you are. It's just a reality now in music and it has been for a LONG time. TRT leaked. MTM leaked. ATS leaked. LT leaked. THP leaked. OML leaked. PT leaked. So for Grey Daze to stream Amends in full, publicly, only to turn around and be surprised that it was recorded and shared, doesn't make sense.

They delayed the album for months, and then announced a full stream of the album. It would have been more surprising if it wasn't recorded and shared, honestly.

Is it really considered a leak if they hosted a public stream of the album? In 2020 it should be a given that somebody will record it somehow in that situation lol.

3 hours ago, Subs said:

Where does it rank amongst top music videos of all time on youtube ? all genres

According to this list Numb is #104 all time in YouTube music video views.

It does nothing but play the fans of both bands against each other, and it makes people who like both feel awkward.

He was directly asked and put on the spot about how LP felt about the album. He said he and the remaining members of LP talked at Talinda’s wedding and they were excited about Amends. The end. Going on to make it seem like they were being phony (“eerily silent”, “I can’t figure it out”) is just going to start drama. AGAIN.

19 minutes ago, LPsMart said:

When did he state that?

He didn't. He just hasn't talked about it, so people are assuming he doesn't want to talk about it. Correct me if I'm wrong if anyone knows otherwise.