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    Linkin Park Song Election - B-Sides and Stuff

    in Everything Linkin Park

    Posted · Edited by Qwerty18

    What? Why vote for WWDK? Its the best song of the list!!!!!

    I may be wrong, but I have the feeling that everyone vote for the same song at each round to be sure their personnal favorite won't be endangered. Even if they like the song they vote for better than others. And this time, WWDK is the chosen one apparently. (sabotage! :lol: )

    MTV World Stage: EMA Tonight

    in Newswire

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    Just finished watching it, not too bad tho they cutted some kick-ass songs but that's expected.

     

    BTW Heres the setlist that was aired from the australian broadcast of MTV World Stage:

    1 The Requiem

    2 New Divide

    3 Waiting for the End

    4 Empty Spaces

    5 When They Come For Me (swearing edited out)

    6 Numb

    7 The Radience (live version)

    8 Breaking The Habit

    9 The Catalyst

    10 In The End

    11 What I've Done

    12 Bleed It Out (swearing edited out/APFMH verse 1 & bridge)

    So, basically, MTV dropped all the agressive songs? Commercial spirit, no comment...

    What I Missed in ATS

    in Everything Linkin Park

    Posted · Edited by Qwerty18

    Heavy guitar riffs....Yes, ATS wouldn't be ATS with those, and I'm quite glad they aren't there for that reason. But on the other hand, LP haven't made a song with a heavy riff for a hell lot of time (last one being No More Sorrow). And I miss that. Really.

     

    EDIT: BTW, I don't mean background guitars (No Roads Left, Numb, In The End) but litteraly, heavy riffs (One Step Closer, Qwerty,...)

    New Linkin Park Album in 2011!?

    in Newswire

    Posted · Edited by Qwerty18

    I don't think an iTunes EP some time in 2011 would be a bad idea.

    Would be cool, indeed. Plus, I remember someone from the band saying they were thinking about releasing a bunch of ,new songs (like 3,4 songs) each 4/5 months, instead of releasing albums.

    So, an EP is not impossible.

    The HEAVY side of MTM

    in Everything Linkin Park

    Posted · Edited by Qwerty18

    but who knows what awesome b-sides they scrapped (see:Halo) because Warner never would've let LP put them on the album? She Couldn't proves that even in the pre-MTM time period they were making non-heavy, alternative stuff that doesn't sound like HT, and I would love to get to hear some of that.

    To me, Halo still sounds a lot like the "old" Linkin Park. The power chords used during the second half of the song are almost the same as what they've done in songs like Numb, Easier To Run,...It's the "using power chords to make a chorus big" phenomenom Mike was talking about recently, IMO.

     

    Then, you'll say "the demos you want are supposedly heavy, they have power chords man!". Yes, but the guitars in GU, NMS, and Qwerty are way more agressive and rough(sonicely) than before I think, it's different. I mean, before, LP already had heavy riffs, but the sound of their guitars was more layered.

     

    About She Couldn't...Hum, yes, you're right. But I will not be objective by saying at this moment, as LP is realeasing soft stuff again and again, I'm more attracted by their heavy side. It's a matter of taste, and I respect your opinion. :)

    Meteora had some crazy ideas. Sadly, they were never executed.

    Not sure, but I Think those crazy ideas would have been incorporated in their "Nu Metal" sound, label or nor not label. At this time, they wanted to proove their HT success, so replicate the same sound, and Chester was quite angry and drug-addicted, so he would probably have continue to use his "hardcore" HT vocals I guess. So, all in all, a sound similar to Meteora, maybe with more experiments. But not sure, just a bet...

    The HEAVY side of MTM

    in Everything Linkin Park

    Posted

    "We have" = released. He said that we have a ton from that time period, which we do not.

    The deal is...we don't have a lot of material from the Meteora session, agreed, but the Meteora sound is similar to the Hybrid Theory sound. So I just mean we already have ton of material from the 1999-2003 Linkin Park. We also have a lot of material from the MTM session, but mainly alternative. Only 3 heavy songs from that time(wich doesn't sound like their older heavy songs) have surfaced. And IMO, what's interesting about it is that they reveal a side of LP we almost don't know : a Metal/Punk Linkin Park.

    The HEAVY side of MTM

    in Everything Linkin Park

    Posted · Edited by Qwerty18

    I trust LP's judgment. If they feel that they aren't good enough to release, then they're probably right. Even heavy songs can suck horribly.

    For sure heavy songs can suck horribly and be so un-original. But I don't think that's the case here....it was said they felt like the softer one were better and more interesting (probably because of guitar solos, unusual structures, ...). BUT, if they talked about the heavy one and even considered putting them on the album, they have to be good. At least some of them.

     

    And I don't trust LP judgement. Putting songs like LOATR, SOTD, Valentine's day instead of ATL, No Roads Left, and What They Don't Know on MTM was a crime :lol: (And Chester thinks Runaway sucks...WTF!)

    The HEAVY side of MTM

    in Everything Linkin Park

    Posted · Edited by Qwerty18

    Ladies and Gentlemen, good morning (or afternoon/evening/night!).

     

    I was just having a personal debate inside of me, and I took the decision to put what I was thinking here (yeah, I'm kind of bored actually... :lol: ). But hey, don't go! It should be interesting, guys....I'm going to talk about one of the most mysterious and unfamous thing in the LP history: Once Upon A Time, there was a Heavy MTM.

     

    First of all,I'd like to point that the majority of LP fans usually agree on the terms used to describe each LP era. We all have a general conception of how the LP sound has evoluate through the years. And in this conception, MTM is categorized like an alternative and soft album. Like somebody on LPL said...

    Anyway let the guess games begin!

    ....

    02: What We Don't Know (2007) - m2m session, so melody driven ballad type song

    Hum, yes....but what we really don't know...is that MTM was originaly expected to be heavy.

    someone asked if they were going to release any heavy songs on the side like QWERTY, Chester said during the Minutes to Midnight recording process, they went through a very heavy guitar phase and he even said in interviews that the album was going to be the fucking heaviest LP album ever. Then towards the end of the process, they just ended up picking the songs that they felt sounded the best and interesting which ended up being the softest album ever

    Seeing that, I remembered the alternative MTM covers we get one year after its release...and one of those (with staircases) totally looks like a cover made for an heavy album. I might be wrong, but the link between what Chester has said and this cover is interesting.

     

    So, what? I think all the songs from that heavy MTM era could possibly constitute some the most interesting LP material which hasn't been released yet. While we now have get a lot of the alternative songs from the MTM process, only 3 heavy songs from that period have surfaced: Qwerty, Given Up, No More Sorrow. And what's interesting with those 3 is that they reveal a side of Linkin Park we barely know: heavier, more organic, and more rough than everetyhing they've done before and after. Something between metal and agressive punk, with rap verses on Qwerty.

     

    To me, releasing those songs in the future could be a fabulous gift to the LP community. Way more interesting than releasing some random Hybrid/Metora demos for example, because we all have so much from that period already. But now that ATS and LPUX are out, there's a risk none of those heavy MTM demos will ever see the light of the day, because LP will probably focus on giving us ATS demos now.

     

    The only way we could still have a chance to hear it one day is to keep showing our interest in those demos. Maybe a reference/question about those in the LPL interview with Mike? Some questions during the next LPU event/chat? I don't know...

     

    Well, what do you think of it? Are you actually interested with it, or would you prefer Hybrid/Meteora/ATS demos? Do you know more informations about i? (interviews, ...). Let's talk! :)

    The last MTM b-side

    in Everything Linkin Park

    Posted · Edited by Qwerty18

    I still think Pretend to Be could be one of them too. I know it was made after MTM droped, but I dont know, it SOUNDS like it should be a MTM demo. I'm probably wrong, but We dont really know the full story.

    No, you're right, Pretend to be WAS a MTM demo, but it was finished in 2008. Not Alone was also finished later...So, concerning the 5 B-sides, we now have:

     

    • Across The Line
    • No Roads Left
    • Blackbirds
    • and probably What We Don't Know
    We still miss 1 (or 2) song(s)....
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