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What devastating news, man. Nick was a cornerstone of this community - I never really interacted with him at all, but the work he did is clear as day, he's got his fingerprints all over LPL and the fandom at large. I've listened to all of those shows listed in the main post, and we have him to thank for those and countless others. Rest in peace, brother.

I'm going to go the opposite way and say that we get absolutely nothing. Well, maybe not absolutely nothing, but I don't see a real market for anything but a streaming/digital "definitive" re-release with an unreleased demo or two. We got a definitive vinyl re-release literally last year. At that point in time, we know now that the Linkin Park machine was gearing up, and with that context, that reissue reads to me as "get this out here so we can close the book." Hell, maybe the plan was to wait until this year to do that re-issue, and when it became clear to the guys that they'd be doing, uh, something else by this point, Mike decided to push it all out to keep it out of the way of Linkin Park. I love this album, and I've always wished that we got more of this kind of solo work from Mike. But I think that there is not a market for anything bigger than what's already come out. Fort Minor's lasting cultural impact comes from one song, and I don't think one song is enough to justify even a smaller-scale box set.

Continuing to backtalk and doubling down is just digging the hole deeper. Take the L and move on, dude. I did notice that Emily was a lot stiffer here than she is during proper shows, but I don't think it's worth really dwelling on, though my first thought (since we're all offering those up here I guess) is just that it's a different environment from a concert where everyone is there to see you, different audience, so it could be a little intimidating. Not really a big deal either way, and her vocals were on point as usual - great performance, and the stage choreography was excellent, especially the trophy rising up during the bridge, lol.

Good song, better video. I would agree that it's the weakest of the three tracks released so far, but all three have still been very, very solid. I like the overall sound that we're getting a picture of. It is weird, though, to hear and see a Linkin Park song with only Emily's vocals for the first time - obviously that'll become normal as they make more music, but it's still a strange, novel feeling for now.

I don't think people on the Linkin Park superfan site are really the target audience for a book like this, guys. Have some perspective. Christ. Jason Lipshutz is a great writer, he's been at Billboard forever, and clearly this book is a passion project meant for an audience of people who, for instance, only heard She Couldn't when it was released as a single in 2020. Not every biography of a band is going to unearth shit that the freaks in the fandom don't know.

Too many variants, sheesh. Amazon especially does not need an exclusive variant, lol, and I've never really bought that "indie exclusive" variants do anything at all for those stores. I really feel like there should only ever be a black vinyl and one color variant and that's it, not this giant catalog of variants for every retailer that begs for one.

Re-release on blue vinyl like RSD 2014 would've been nice, but it's still good to have new copies in circulation. I do think this is all we'll get for CC, which is unfortunate. The DVD probably also isn't being included this time either, which I guess makes sense to keep the cost and complexity down.

Linkin Park Tiny Desk would be absolutely unbelievable, lol. I would LOVE that.

No, LP hasn't even gone on yet. That's a leak of the setlist from a picture of the printed one, which I think is absolutely insane to just post in this thread without being hidden or spoilered or anything. If I hadn't already seen it I'd be super pissed, personally.

This happens with Springsteen shows too and it's really made me spoiled about it, lol. I'd definitely understand if no one in the crowd wants to cook their phone streaming a two-hour concert by a band that hasn't played publicly in seven years, but if they did, a lot of people would appreciate it. Just saying!

Yes, the $75 tier includes the bundle and the zine without further purchase. They're on the store for the lower tier members who don't get them included.

I can really feel the joy in this write-up. We really are back. I will take literally anything for this show. They could do the entire Papercuts tracklist in order and I'd be losing my mind for every song, because every song is fresh, every song is going to feel new in some way with Emily singing. The key changes will take some getting used to - In the End in particular sounded really, really weird - and I do hope that Emily's voice holds up better than it did on the livestream, but I have full confidence that this show will be incredible. Maybe even some brave soul could stream it from their phone for all of us, lmao. In any case, I'll absolutely be setlist-watching for these shows. Can't wait for tomorrow.

Hope we get a clean re-edit of the entire livestream to replace the broadcast version too.

It really is just so nice to have a reason to be subscribed to the LPU again. I cashed in my free year from the Meteora box for the QWERTY/Friendly Fire single and won’t need to renew until April - hopefully tour info for next year will be out by then, but I’m probably gonna renew either way.

Rob does not owe this fandom any sort of statement or explanation, lol. Chill out with that. If Mike is speaking for him in these interviews, it means either that Rob is fine with the band setting the narrative, or that he’ll come out and say something separately if he thinks it’s off-base or he wants to announce his own thing. I don’t mind one bit if we never hear from Rob again, because that’ll be his call.

This event being livestreamed is a big relief. I wouldn't necessarily fault the band for wanting to keep the event itself for LPU members and provide a separate announcement on socials after, but giving everyone the chance to at least see what's going on is excellent.

LPU members have received an email with an invitation to an event in Los Angeles on the 5th. If you can make it and you’re in, you should hop on that ASAP.

Look, there are plenty of people that are taking this too hard. And things like taking off work for an announcement we had no real details about (that, yes, fine, was not confirmed by the band to be anything at all, before anyone brings that up again) is...intense, to be graceful about it. But if you're sitting in this thread going "lmaooooooooo it's so embarrassing to be this mad about this" then I think you really simply don't get it. If you've been around long enough (and it kind of feels like a lot of people haven't!), you know how this band cultivates its fanbase, and how the fans themselves talk about each other - the idea that the LP community is a family, and all that. I've always felt that that's a little too parasocial for my tastes, but you cannot deny that a big portion of the diehards here - the kind of people who would schedule their day around the end of this countdown - are exactly the fans that this band should be treating with more grace, more respect. A lot of people in here aren't doing that in either direction, frankly - the investment should be respected, and the excitement for what actually came down should be respected, too. Seeing people make accounts just to be like "lmao get trolled, shit your diaper some more" is embarrassing. Of course the Discord is a complete shithole, that's to be expected, but that's embarrassing, too - an officially-sanctioned discussion space where people are acting like we should have expected this to be a twelve-day rollout for whatever the fuck is coming (which, it must be made clear, still has had zero official information provided!), or that if you're upset that a clear countdown to a specific time and date didn't result in information being provided, then you're a dumb fuck who deserves to be laughed at. If the fan discontent is properly reaching the band or their representatives, I hope they recognize that news this major should have a much shorter teaser window next time. But, then again, there won't be news THIS major ever again, so there's that opportunity missed, I guess. We'll see!

There would be nothing wrong with this kind of marketing if the band had been operating as it normally has all this time. Setting up a countdown that then starts counting back up with no other elements to it, and having to rely on industry leaks to have even an inkling of what it means, is not my idea of "fun" when we're talking about a band that went on hiatus in 2017 because the lead singer killed himself. Just post a straightforward announcement. Cutesy BS like this just riles people up.

Fanbase is so rabid that nobody can post about LP without having to deny that they're involved in whatever's happening in an hour, lol. We're back baby.

See, now, THIS is the kind of smoke I was looking for. This is the real deal. Five days to wait is fucking agony though LMAO. By the time we get to Wednesday the consensus will be that LP is touring with 25 vocalists, a specialist for each song in the setlist, and there will be ten rotating setlists in their six-continent world tour with three albums of new music ready to go.

One of the most active threads on the forum in a while and it's smoke, mirrors, and off-topic bullshit, lol. Feels pretty safe to say now that this was about the 4K upgrade for Bleed it Out and little else. The official account hasn't posted since the upgrade went up. Yeah, sure, there's more rumblings of shows, but is this band really going to spring random Latin America shows on this fanbase with less than three months' notice like that? I doubt it. We'll see, I guess.

Yeah I'm uh, not endorsing whatever the hell that is, lol. I was just saying that flag-bearers in the community should be careful about what they put forward.

I'll believe something major is coming when it actually comes, lol. I don't think there's anything wrong with thinking there could be something coming down the pipeline, but I do think it's a little much for staff members to insist that it's happening. Unless you happen to have more of an inkling that something's coming than the rest of us have, that is.

I think any piece of music released after vinyl's dominance of physical media can sound good, and even great, on vinyl. I don't think digital recording techniques preclude that, either. And, frankly, what audiophiles consider "good" is a far, far cry from what the average vinyl consumer considers "good" anyway - as long as a record doesn't sound like it's being played through a tin can even on mid-level equipment and has no obvious anomalies in volume or dynamic range, that's plenty good enough for the majority of people who play their records. Anyone who tells you that records produced after the 1980s almost universally sound "bad" are either not engaging in good faith or simply have lost perspective because they've vanished into the audiophile ether - sound quality is, to a degree, subjective. There are upper and lower bounds to that subjectivity, certainly, but peoples' ears are all different, and it's a wide, wide range of acceptable quality, so wide that defining it in anything but the broadest of terms is pointless. That's not to say that there aren't plenty of poorly-pressed records, particularly from major labels - the best way to make a record sound like it fits the medium is to remaster for vinyl, and most labels simply aren't going to put in that effort, but digital masters can still sound plenty good when pumped through what a regular consumer's got for their setup. Pressings like this are for the people who have the equipment to hear minute differences in pressings, picking up on the smallest imperfections both in the master and the quality of the pressing itself. Dumping these records onto an Audio Technica LP60 is a waste of time and money, so they're not for regular consumers and therefore are fair game to be nitpicked a lot more harshly by people who know what they're talking about. I still question the idea that the target market for these is large enough to justify their existence, on the axes of price and demographic, but I suppose we'll hear more about that once they're actually in peoples' hands.