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Brad thought that Faint would be 70 BPM but when he came back the next day, or so, it was then brought up to 135 BPM. Does anyone know how slower the BPM would have to be in order to get 70 BPM from 135 BPM?

On 2/11/2021 at 9:58 AM, JZ-GreyDazeWorshipper said:

APFMH ↗️ Forgotten is a killer duo.

I agree.

How do you remove the laughing from the vocals of "The Wizard Song"? Also, does anyone know how to turn live audio into a more studio version type of audio? I'm looking to make a studio version of "The Wizard Song".

On 10/31/2020 at 1:29 AM, Hybridtheory said:

a quick calculation:

7,595 active members here
if each donates $ 5
we will have

$ 37,975

I think you can buy some shows proshots lol

An update to this "quick calculation":

7,783 members in total here

If each donates $7, we will have $54,481

That would be enough to get the Marc Ostrick Lockout tape.

This is not related to Linkin Park whatsoever. Does anybody know who Karma is? I'm talking about the Karma, who's bass player was with Relative Degree.

On 11/2/2020 at 8:12 PM, Justin said:

It used to be $10,000. After Chester passed, the price was raised to $50,000.

 

Astat or Mark can correct me if I'm wrong, but I think those were the exact numbers and the reason it was raised.

We need to ask someone to help us get this footage. Maybe Mike, maybe Jeff, maybe Samantha, anyone of them would probably work.

Maybe we could also find someone else who could help us with this problem.

Update 8 years later: Carousel was written with Mark Wakefield. It was on a Xero CD that Jeff Blue has dating from November 17th, 1998. It also includes "Rhinestone" (1998 Version), "Esaul", "Pictureboard", "Fiends", "Stick N Move" (1998 Version), "Slip", "Pointillism" (Mike Shinoda Demo), & "Step Up".

2 minutes ago, GIVEYOUCANDY92 said:

UPDATE: 

I asked Big Chris Flores on IG and he told me there is no news about the song, it’s all up to Talinda.

You should ask her about the song.

Are Xero playing “Reading My Eyes”, or “Fuse” before “Rhinestone”? It’s at about 1:51 in the video.

Edit: I think they are playing “Reading My Eyes” before “Rhinestone because at 1:57, it sounds like Mark is singing “Why not give me what I came to believe”. 

We should ask Mike about what 'Nocturnal', 'Nursery' [or possibly "Hearsay"], 'Plaster II', 'Resolution', 'Serpent' [or possibly "Quotient"], and 'Shifter' are to know if they are songs from the Meteora era or are working titles for songs off Meteora, similar to how "Cuidado" is actually the working title for "Lying From You".

While I’m too sure about what the other ones could be, my guess is that the working title for “From The Inside” is “Plaster II”. The only reason I think that is because they are hard, heavy hitting hard rock songs. But, hey, that’s just me thinking out loud.

On 8/11/2021 at 4:34 PM, RayGun4200 said:

If that's the case they should of just leaked the whole entire Demo CD instead of just the one song.

Andrew Lanoie leaked the Xero version of "Pictureboard". Maybe he has the CD, or maybe he doesn't.

Edit: Andrew Lanoie most likely doesn't have the CD. The only reason Andrew Lanoie has Pictureboard is because it was in Xero's audition tape when he auditioned for Xero when Phoenix left.

What's the timeline for March/April/May 1999? I'm trying to figure out the timeline for how long the band kept auditioning singers after Chester sent his tape to Jeff Blue, as well as how long they rehearsed with Chester. Jeff mentions Samantha and Chester came over that weekend to celebrate Chester's new gig when he got the lead singing position for Xero. He also said that Chester said that "We decided to start rehearsing on Monday and begin writing new songs." Chester also said "Do you know how stressful these last six weeks have been?" Jeff also said the following week, he walked out of the bright sun shining on Hollywood Boulevard into the dark rehearsal studio, where the band was rehearsing their songs. He saw the band rehearsing, the guys tuning up their instruments. Joe scratching, Brad using his guitar, Rob drumming, Mike rapping, & Chester singing. Then, probably the following week or so, Jeff spoke to Rob Bourdon in Santa Monica, both of them sitting in the ocean on a Friday afternoon.

Basically, I need a timeline of what happened when to understand what was going on around that time. That's all.

On 12/10/2020 at 2:09 PM, RayGun4200 said:

Is it possible that the Pictureboard (Xero Version) that leaked is from that Demo CD?

Yes, it is from that November 17th, 1998 Xero demo CD.

According to Linkinpedia, Stick N Move is 108 BPM. Does that mean the Xero demo and the "Runaway" 1998 demo instrumental are the same as "Stick N Move (Demo)" or are they different?

On 8/1/2021 at 7:19 PM, LPsMart said:

the Xero demo is 133.133, not 133; the HT Demo is slightly faster than the Xero demo

 

both Forgotten Demo and Rhinestone Xero Demo are at 108.108, not 110

 

Will you please stop posting false information now?

Sorry, I though they were the same, my mistake.

On 7/25/2021 at 7:39 PM, LPsMart said:

so no reason at all to post this. if someone wanted to know, they could google themselves to not find out if those numbers are right

Esaul ("A Place For My Head" Demo) should be the same as "Esaul (Xero Demo)" and "A Place For My Head", where it is 133 BPM.

Forgotten (Demo) should be the same as "Rhinestone (Xero Demo)" and "Forgotten", where it is 110 BPM.

All I know is that these should be fixed. Not too sure about the other songs I mentioned, though.

Technique (Short) is 95 BPM, according to songbpm.com.

Technique (Short) BPM

Grr (1999 Demo) is 100 BPM, according to the same site I mentioned before.

Grr (1999 Demo) BPM

Coal (1997 Demo) is also 100 BPM, according to the same site I mentioned before.

Coal (1997 Demo) BPM

Dedicated (1999 Demo) is 103 BPM, according to the same site I mentioned before.

Dedicated (1999 Demo) BPM

Sad ("By Myself" Demo 1999) is 103 BPM, the same BPM as "By Myself" and "SuperXero ("By Myself" Demo)", according to the same site I mentioned before.

Sad ("By Myself" Demo 1999) BPM

Blue (1999 Demo) is also 103 BPM, according to the sames site I mentioned before.

Blue (1999 Demo) BPM

Oh No ("Points Of Authority" Demo) is 95 BPM, the same as "Points Of Authority" and "Points Of Authority (Demo) [Forgotten Demos]", according to the same site I mentioned before.

Oh No ("Points Of Authority" Demo) BPM

Points Of Authority (Demo) [LPU Rarities] is also 95 BPM, the same as "Points Of Authority" and "Points Of Authority (Demo) [Forgotten Demos]", according to the same site I mentioned before.

Points Of Authority (Demo) [LPU Rarities] BPM

Stick And Move ("Runaway" Demo 1998) is 108 BPM, the same as "Stick N Move (Demo)", according to the same site I mentioned before.

Stick And Move ("Runaway" Demo 1998) BPM

Chair (1999 "Part Of Me" Demo) is 142 BPM, the same as "Part Of Me", according to the same site I mentioned before.

Chair (1999 "Part Of Me" Demo) BPM

Slip (1999 Demo) is 125 BPM, according to the same site I mentioned before.

Slip (1999 Demo) BPM

Hurry (1999 Demo) is 117 BPM, according to the same site I mentioned before.

Hurry (1999 Demo) BPM

Esaul ("A Place For My Head" Demo) should be the same as "Esaul (Xero Demo)" and "A Place For My Head", where it is 133 BPM.

Forgotten (Demo) should be the same as "Rhinestone (Xero Demo)" and "Forgotten", where it is 110 BPM.

I know some of these are correct, but I'm not sure if all of them are correct. I'll wait for someone to check them out.

1 hour ago, LPsMart said:

If you had fact checked it, you would have realized that And One isn't played on click (except the outro, which isn't 110 BPM but 100), and if it were, it would be around 115.

All the sources you find googling "BPM" or "Key" of a song differ from each other, and mostly you'll find they're all wrong.

I suggest you to get BPM from either linkinpedia.com (LPL) or the remix spreadsheet 2.0, which both are reliable sources. If the BPM aren't on there, you'd have to find out yourself or ask someone to help you find out.

 

Stick N Move (Demo) has the same BPM as the remix spreadsheet 2.0.

There is this site called songbpm.com. 

When I searched up those songs I found out this:

And One BPM - It's BPM is 110 BPM.

She Couldn't (Demo) BPM - It's BPM is 98 BPM.

Dialate (Xero Demo) BPM - It's BPM is 106 BPM.

Reading My Eyes (Xero Demo) BPM - It's BPM is 137 BPM.

Pictureboard (Demo) BPM - It's BPM is 105 BPM.

Stick N Move (Demo) BPM - It's BPM is 108 BPM.

20 hours ago, lpliveusername said:

Harmonic Song was just a working title. Like any other song, it went through various stages of development until they arrived to the final product. It's impossible to know what the original seed was. Mike himself said he doesn't remember how the song was started (see Linkinpedia).

 

Note that Rob's schedule from Jeff Blue's book lists the song both as "Harmonic Song" (working title) and "Pushing Me Away" (final title). Every other song in the list was already fully developed at that point. It's more than likely that Pushing Me Away was as well since it already had a title taken from the lyrics. I think what Rob recorded during that period was the same drum tracks you hear in the album.

Would it work if I took the drums, guitar, and samples from the multitracks of “Pushing Me Away” and put them all together?
 

Or maybe just take the drums and guitar and put both of them together?

Also, even though “Harmonic Song” is the working title for “Pushing Me Away”, don’t you think that “Harmonic Song” is an actual full out blown demo, with guitars, drums, bass and samples?

On 7/1/2021 at 10:05 AM, JanJena said:

They used the same clothes... why diferent instruments? And... No... It's impossible for Chester to be so wet in the FIRST song.

I think the word you’re looking for is “sweaty”, not “wet”.

7 hours ago, NJPLP said:

Is "Harmonic Song" just the drums to "Pushing Me Away"?

6 hours ago, lpliveusername said:

https://lplive.net/forums/topic/14536-lplive-interview-with-jeff-blue-and-rob-mcdermott-out-now/?do=findComment&comment=309139

I was wondering if "Harmonic Song" was just the drums to "Pushing Me Away" so I could make some sort of concept for the demo on what it could sound like. I was wondering if I have to move anything around with the multitrack of the drums to "Pushing Me Away".

Does anybody know when the Esaul (Live Performance 1999) precisely happened (month wise)? Also, were Hybrid Theory (Linkin Park) signed to Warner around this time?

Is "Harmonic Song" just the drums to "Pushing Me Away"?

12 minutes ago, LPsMart said:

yeah me too. I like to believe that apart from the Emo demo (bars???), Flower was the actual thing with live instrumental ideas behind that. like Sky and Crawling are the same thing but actually not really

I was wondering if it was an instrumental so I could make some sort of concept for the demo on what it could sound like.

On 12/9/2020 at 4:11 PM, lpliveusername said:

Random mention:

Flower [early She Couldn't]

 

Is "Flower" a sort of instrumental beat or something that they would use for "She Couldn't"?