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Congratulating someone ona gift TWICE is a bit much right? Also PR02 ahas been confirmed to come from multipple shows. So I do think the 3 Full shows is kind of a misnomer honestly

I'm pretty sure what he meant is that the HTEP should've been included in this box set on CD. Since even the reissue, while easy to find is super expensive online.

I was talking about the Xero tape.

I'm not too sure. But still. I don#t think 'casual' fans are gonna dig that deep. They either know about Mark already or they don't even know stuff with him exists much less that its on YT

That said I doubt "casual" fans are even interested in this. They might buy the 2 CD edition (which has the B-Sides) and thats it.

I'm pretty sure the tape is what it is. Someone would have to rip the Xero tape, then remaster that rip. But considering how bad quality even the "HQ" rips on youtube are, its clear why they abandonned that idea Also I am sure that the video quality is not good enough to warrant a Blu Ray release That said the Mikes rap version of Crawling is on the Forgotten Demos disc.

Even the trailer says 3 full shows (Fillmore, Rock Am Ring 2001, and the last one has to be PR02). Odd. It would make sense for it not to be a full show since, if you read the pages on LPL some songs had to be restarted etc So yeah it would make sense to be replaced with each other.

So which show from Projekt Revolution 2002 is going to be used?

We have two versions we know of that include Mark on vocals. The Xero tape version and the Zomba/Crow version. I dunno but considering that its nigh impossible to make the tape sound good, I personally would say that the Zomba version is the only one that would be that

I'm pretty sure that they didn't include any version from the tap.e. Since the crow version is only version with Mark on vocals that could be considered its probably just the same. 99% sure on that.

I just think its odd that for example at the start Chester is like "What are you playing" and then suddenly Chester remembers that he also did vocals for that song? I mean...they do orget stuff sometimes (remember that one time where Mike thought Wake was on Meteora?) it just struck me as odd.

I hope Dave wasn't trolling with that.

I never said electronic music makes it les personal. Heck I listen to electronic music all the time. I just think that the music on OML sounds like Chainsmokers, and while I do kinda like OML as an album at this point. The music on ATS sounds fresh exciting and what have you but the OML sounds like greed to me. Just the type of cheap and lackluster electronic music on the radio that is written just that, for mass appeal. To me about half the album still sounds like they hired a guy who has only heard the name Linkin Park but who mainly saw $$$$$ to slap some beats together and then Chester and Mike wrote their usual lyrics on top of it So basically instrumentals that could be produced by anyone + lyrics that are intimate and personal = a mix that I dislike Like look at One More Light. its a song that sounds and reads (as in the lyrics) as deeply personal and it works.

1. Outside writers for OML 2. Using mostly electronic sounds for OML. I mean if you remember the album was hyped up as being "the most personal thing" and all that jazz, but then having personal lyrics and putting them with the most plastic sounding instruentals seems too much of a dissonance. 3. Not releasing HT Live at Download Festival as a CD for EVERYONE. 4. Not Making the "special edition with a booklet" version of THP the only one. 5. Censoring live releases

Nobody needs insturmentals...B-Sides on the other hand...

You act like they never did? I mean....the first album even has credits to him on the songs he did some significant wriing on

Very xcited for this True I already have the main album, Frat Party and reanimation LOL Still bummed not every set is 100% that said also I wish the Reanimation DVD-A was included somehow.

Frankly I have always failed to see the point with the half/half treatment the solo/side projects get. What I mean by that is that for example the PT tour got LPU early/VIP access and so on and so forth but yet we don't get any demos (if there are any). I mean even if its like a second "branch" of LPU, I wouldn't mind. Like if you had an LPU account but would have Access to the Mike "part" of the Fanclub. Like for example why not make the exclusive tracks from Fort Minor Militia available to LPU members aswell.

Easy don't show a vocalist or anything that could hint at a vocalist in the first place.

Uh that sounds contradictory. The video shows a full band without even a sign of a vocalist and yet you think its awesome. So why is it not weird like you say I rather decide on my own terms wether or not to fuck off. That said 3 empty mic stand shots were 4 too many in my opinion

Don't like the video at all. Did they really have to constantly show the empty mic? It started to piss me off after a while honestly. The music video version of clickbait..

You guys probably need some ore info to add some of the info I brought in, huh?

Hey I was at the show: Some stuff I remember: (Please note that I am just writing the stuff I remember and it might not be of info to anyone) Mike joked with the guitarist (forgot his name sorry) that he should rap the next song (which was WTCFM) During the show (forgot which song sorry) he signed someones sign (don't remember what it said either) He wanted to hang up someones fanart (of Boris and Oatmeal) on his keyboard) but the art/cloth was so big it didn't work He played Sorry for now (seemingly upon request) He did a speech about Keith Flint before In The End Prove You Wrong was played again And to top it off: Along with two members of Don Bronco Mike played APFMH He played around with the samples of Hold It Together with an extended ending saying he loved those samples Sorry For Now included a drum solo

Oh come on. THP was only made because Mike was in a rock mode. in fact he said in interviews that he had made "OML-esque" demos after Living Things was done. He only started to crave rock music later and thus THP was born. OML might be mainstream friendly, but you still miss the point if you claim the band was forced to make the album. Remember how in 2000 everybody said an album like HT would never fly with the public? No..looks like it has diamond status for no reason then. Not standing behind a decision your favorite band makes, but claiming shit, where you should know it isn't true, is just being a fucking dense motherfucker. if LP was really in it for the money they would've done record after record after record in the style of HT and Meteora.And yes I do think that OML was more simplistic in sound thanks to the fact that they focused more on the lyrics. If you think they made this album for the money then you have clearly not understood the album.

Exactly. Like I actually feel like if you are a true fan you can understand why there is no music. Sure i would like some "new" music. But at the same time I was surprised if the opposite happened (meaning that we got actual music). I expected the outcome to be this