Astat Posted January 19, 2013 Share Posted January 19, 2013 http://lplive.net/fortminor/20060128.php - This show was at Station 4 in St. Paul, not the Quest Club in Minneapolis (I clearly remember correcting this on the live guide at one point when I was still on staff, but it somehow got changed back?). It was ORIGINALLY supposed to be at the Quest Club, but was moved to Station 4 later, with the original tickets being honored at the new location. The Quest Club was actually closed down not long before the show was scheduled to take place (there had been several violent crimes at the Quest Club over the years that led to its closure). Fort Minor Myspace blog announcing the venue change: http://www.myspace.com/fortminor/blog/80431171 Link to comment https://lplive.net/forums/topic/4513-submit-site-corrections-here/page/18/#findComment-181888 Share on other sites More sharing options...
StaticXero Posted January 20, 2013 Share Posted January 20, 2013 http://lplive.net/chesterbennington/20080509.php this one isn't listed on the camp freddy site... is this the real date? Link to comment https://lplive.net/forums/topic/4513-submit-site-corrections-here/page/18/#findComment-181974 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Astat Posted January 21, 2013 Share Posted January 21, 2013 http://lplive.net/chesterbennington/20080509.php this one isn't listed on the camp freddy site... is this the real date? Yeah, it's mentioned on numerous other websites. It was actually the MusiCares MAP Benefit concert (the same event Chester did The Messenger at in 2011), which should probably be added to that show's info page. http://imagecollect.com/picture/camp-fredd...benefit-concert There are quite a few Camp Freddy shows that aren't listed on their site. Pretty much any of the private parties they play are never archived (they usually announce them as news on the site prior to them happening, but never add them to the tour ate archive). Link to comment https://lplive.net/forums/topic/4513-submit-site-corrections-here/page/18/#findComment-181978 Share on other sites More sharing options...
StaticXero Posted January 21, 2013 Share Posted January 21, 2013 ok, thanks for the clarification ... It was actually the MusiCares MAP Benefit concert (the same event Chester did The Messenger at in 2011), which should probably be added to that show's info page. ... do you have more information (e.g. setlist) about the 2011 show? (did he perform with jk or alone or with other artists?) Link to comment https://lplive.net/forums/topic/4513-submit-site-corrections-here/page/18/#findComment-181982 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Astat Posted January 21, 2013 Share Posted January 21, 2013 ok, thanks for the clarification do you have more information (e.g. setlist) about the 2011 show? (did he perform with jk or alone or with other artists?) - Chester was introduced as a solo act and performed alone, and as far as I'm aware The Messenger was the only song he did (no collaborations with other artists). There's plenty of video from the show. Link to comment https://lplive.net/forums/topic/4513-submit-site-corrections-here/page/18/#findComment-182023 Share on other sites More sharing options...
StaticXero Posted January 22, 2013 Share Posted January 22, 2013 - Chester was introduced as a solo act and performed alone, and as far as I'm aware The Messenger was the only song he did (no collaborations with other artists). There's plenty of video from the show. alright, thanks, this is clearly Link to comment https://lplive.net/forums/topic/4513-submit-site-corrections-here/page/18/#findComment-182043 Share on other sites More sharing options...
F0RG0TT3N Posted January 26, 2013 Share Posted January 26, 2013 http://lplive.net/shows/20010126.php This wasn't the first performance of "And One" because in that one they had already played this song. Link to comment https://lplive.net/forums/topic/4513-submit-site-corrections-here/page/18/#findComment-182252 Share on other sites More sharing options...
hahninator Posted January 26, 2013 Share Posted January 26, 2013 Some 2003/2004 corrections: (amazing what you can find like 10 years afterward lol) - Was Nottingham originally part of the LPU Tour? or was it just a BBC show? http://web.archive.org/web/20030206110520/...rk.com/tour.php not listed here but listed later on after the tour as being part of the tour (http://web.archive.org/web/20030623025031/http://linkinpark.com/tour.php?tour_id=4). If it was coming up so soon though (in reference to the first link) then why wasn't it on LP.com? - After all this time we were missing the last show of the canceled European 2003 Tour in Lisboa. http://web.archive.org/web/20030618115126/...rk.com/tour.php So the tour was 12 shows and not 11, we were missing "23.06.2003 Lisboa, PT, Pavilhão Atlântico". Thanks to Jonas for correcting this on the 2003 page already so quickly, and making the date later in the year a "makeup show" by coloring it blue. - http://www.blabbermouth.net/news.aspx?mode...ewsitemID=10990 28.04.2003 Council Bluffs, IA, Mid-America Center 29.04.2003 Valley Center, KS, Kansas Coliseum 30.04.2003 North Little Rock, AR Alltel Arena Canceled because of the Faint video shoot in Los Angeles, not because of Chester's injuries like we thought. LP.com confirms this (in the links above) by listing the Faint video shoot for April 30, 2003 - probably the date they invited the LPU'ers to the shoot...I would assume the shows before that were canceled so LP could shoot on those days by themselves. So I need to fix those on this page: http://lplive.net/2003summary.php An interesting note about the canceled Rochester show (due to a snowstorm) is that the band and crew were rehearsing in Reading, PA instead of in Rochester, which is why the show ended up being canceled (band/crew couldn't make the trip to NY). What is also interesting is that the article mentions Iowa and Kansas were canceled and will be rescheduled, but it doesn't mention Arkansas being canceled or rescheduled. Arkansas wasn't rescheduled but the others were. Hmm. But Arkansas was obviously part of the tour (says LP.com, this site (http://shoutweb.com/news.phtml?keywords=Mudvayne) and Billboard: http://www.billboard.com/articles/news/721...or-linkin-park) Is there anywhere that lists the cancellation of that show? and WTF is this announcement of the Meteora World Tour 2004 with all the wrong dates/cities/venues? lol http://www.antimusic.com/news/03/nov/item53.shtml This link gives more info on those 2004 MWT shows that were changed at the end of the tour, not sure if we should add all that on the 2004 page or not (they were initially announced like that so maybe we should) http://rock-stuff.xanga.com/48402814/item/ - LPTimes mentions a summer 2004 canceled show: http://lptimes.com/news2004/april/april.html "LP Aerodome date cancelled posted by Jas, 04/17/04 Julie writes in to say that the concert at the Aerodome festival on June 9 where Linkin Park is scheduled to play has been cancelled and LP won't be playing at the festival. " LP played Lisbon that day, so maybe the 9th was wrong. Upon further research, http://lptimes.com/news2004/march/march.html "Linkin Park to play Aerodrome Festival posted by Jas, 03/10/04 Jil reports that Linkin Park is scheduled to perform at this year's Aerodrome Rock Festival in Vienna on June 11. Other acts set to perform are Metallica, Korn, Slipknot and Lost Prophets. LP to play in Lisbon festival posted by Jas, 03/10/04 Elcomercio.com reports that Linkin park is also set to perform at a music festival in Lisbon, Portugal on June 9" It appears LP was playing on the 11th, not the 9th. RHCP headlined the 10th. 11.06.2004 Wiener Neustadt, Austria, Civitas Nova Aerodrome Rock Festival http://blabbermouth.net/news.aspx?mode=Art...ewsitemID=20253 "METALLICA, KORN, LINKIN PARK and SLIPKNOT are among the bands confirmed to appear at the Aerodrome Festival, a two-day event set to take place June 10-11 in Wiener Neustadt, Austria." http://www.zrock.com/ee/music/aerodrome_fe...ustadt_austria/ June 11: METALLICA KORN LINKIN PARK SLIPKNOT H-BLOCKX LOSTPROPHETS Official festival website announcement: http://web.archive.org/web/20040319074013/...esen/24498_DE.0 In terms of the LP cancellation: http://web.archive.org/web/20040606150605/...esen/24183_DE.0 rough translation: "Unfortunately, there are sometimes bad news. Aerodrome_04 also be affected. As we have experienced recently, LINKIN PARK have canceled all concerts after the 09.06.2004. SLAYER have also decided to go on the same date to not continue on the road and thus is not able to take place in the presence of this band Aerodrome_04 not, although written by two bands - were commitments - that is binding. The Meadows Festival & Concerts GmbH has, although internationally. Not always common, now determined to take my previously purchased tickets for the Aerodrome_04 until 25.04.2004 back Tickets can be returned for a refund where they were purchased." I wonder if we can find anything on LP.com on an archive or anything. Link to comment https://lplive.net/forums/topic/4513-submit-site-corrections-here/page/18/#findComment-182270 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Astat Posted January 27, 2013 Share Posted January 27, 2013 http://lplive.net/shows/20040130.php - "Alliant Energy Center" isn't the name of the venue itself, but the overall complex it's part of. The arena itself is the Veterans Memorial Coliseum. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Alliant_Energy_Center Link to comment https://lplive.net/forums/topic/4513-submit-site-corrections-here/page/18/#findComment-182287 Share on other sites More sharing options...
[AndOne] Posted January 27, 2013 Share Posted January 27, 2013 Fixed. Thanks. Fixed a couple of others too. We haven't gotten around to actually verify each venue name they ever played, usually the most mistakes get discovered once you google the name to find the official venue website etc. Sometimes it's just typos that happened when adding the show. Alliant Energy Center comes from the original accouncement, which are incorrect a lot of times. Aerodrome: this website http://www.quatschen.net/board9-unterhaltu...aerodrome-2004/ and a couple others mention that they were supposed to play on the 11th. No specific reason to be found why this show was cancelled. The band was confirmed on the festival website, no idea if it was ever on LP.com. Nottingham: I couldn't find much about it, only this review: http://www.lpassociation.com/forums/showthread.php?t=2170 fanclub is mentioned to that sounds like a lpu show. MWT 04 shows: I think it's enough to mention the date changes in the notes and not add them as cancelled shows. Link to comment https://lplive.net/forums/topic/4513-submit-site-corrections-here/page/18/#findComment-182291 Share on other sites More sharing options...
hahninator Posted January 27, 2013 Share Posted January 27, 2013 Ok I agree about MWT 04. Nottingham sounds good for LPU Tour unless we can ever find anything that differs from it. Maybe if LP.com ever adds their tour info from past years (it was mentioned at one point) then we can compare it. Aerodrome is very interesting. Definitely need to add it - I'll see if I can find anything on an LP.com archive or even a fansite link (other than LPTimes) that mentions it. Also: http://lplive.net/2004.php 15.06.2004 Manila, Philippines, CCP Groups The venue is CCP Grounds, not Groups. Most results of the venue on a Google search show it as the CCP Open Grounds instead of just CCP Grounds, too. And Philippines is spelled wrong when you hold your mouse over the flag. Hong Kong 2004's supposed P5hng performance: http://www.ultimate-guitar.com/reviews/liv...tml?no_takeover The user is STILL active on the website from 2004 (wow, he/she is like an Astat, lol): http://profile.ultimate-guitar.com/silverymetaller/ "They have played all the hits like Crawling, In The End, Somewhere I Belong, etc. the best song must be the Pushing Me Away remix version and Breaking The Habit w/an acoustic opening. It was awesome. They have also done a Nine Inch Nail cover which I have never expected. " I will send them a message and see if they can elaborate, I know the show was ages ago but you never know. Last night I accidentally forgot to save the link but I saw that the venue for one of the shows in 2003/2004 in Asia was changed to a bigger venue. It was either Kuala Lumpur, Jakarta, Manila, Hong Kong, Bangkok or Singapore. I can find later today exactly what I am talking about - it's just worth a mention on the show page of course. I believe I saw on LPTimes in the news archive that the venue changed. Also shouldn't we add the DVD as a source for Roxy 2004? Or do we not list official releases? Link to comment https://lplive.net/forums/topic/4513-submit-site-corrections-here/page/18/#findComment-182296 Share on other sites More sharing options...
[AndOne] Posted January 27, 2013 Share Posted January 27, 2013 Fixed Manila. The venue name was an transfer error from the last site version. It seems like the country name was spelled wrong for years, lol. It happens ^^ And no sources for official stuff besides DSPs. Link to comment https://lplive.net/forums/topic/4513-submit-site-corrections-here/page/18/#findComment-182299 Share on other sites More sharing options...
hahninator Posted January 27, 2013 Share Posted January 27, 2013 Yeah even the ticket says CCP Open Grounds. I just noticed for all the canceled shows I need to put the announcement from LP.com or from somewhere (if we can get it) on the show pages. More info on Nottingham 2003: "Linkin Park will perform two shows in March, their first in the UK since September 2001. The band will play London Brixton Academy on March 5th and the Manchester Apollo on March 7th. Tickets go on sale Wednesday, January 29." http://lpassociation.com/forums/showthread.php?t=1486 "To celebrate the launch of their incredible new album 'Meteora', Linkin Park will be playing a gig exclusively for Radio 1 at Nottingham's Rock City Monday 3rd March. Lamacq Live on March 3rd will bring you a Linkin Park Special with a headline set, backstage interviews & reveiw live from Nottingham. All this week Jo Whiley, Lamacq Live, the Rock Show and Colin Murray will be giving away tickets on air on BBC RADIO 1. Your last chance to get hold of a pair of tickets to the gig will be on Saturday March 1st during Scott Mills show when Colin Murray will be roaming the streets of Nottingham looking for deserving fans to give the few remaining tickets away. " Surely you could get tickets from the LPU though, I would imagine. Maybe not though. Hmm. At least on the 2003 page we should put like "BBC Radio 1 Promo Show" or something. Link to comment https://lplive.net/forums/topic/4513-submit-site-corrections-here/page/18/#findComment-182302 Share on other sites More sharing options...
RogueSoul Posted January 27, 2013 Share Posted January 27, 2013 You guys have been kicking up on research lately. Nice findings so far Link to comment https://lplive.net/forums/topic/4513-submit-site-corrections-here/page/18/#findComment-182308 Share on other sites More sharing options...
hahninator Posted January 28, 2013 Share Posted January 28, 2013 - Memphis 2003's original venue was Pyramid Arena or "The Pyramid". http://lpassociation.com/forums/showthread.php?t=1721 Changed later I guess to the Mid-South Coliseum. God bless LPA for their news archives dating back to 2003 lol. LPTimes too. Really good information. Canceled date for MTV VMAs 2003 perhaps? http://lpassociation.com/forums/showthread.php?t=4964 http://lpassociation.com/forums/showthread...5004&page=3 Not sure because apparently MTV.de announced it and there was even a commercial on TV for it but LP didn't play? hmm. Some totally wrong MWT 04 dates, but from POD's label. Whole list is wrong. http://lpassociation.com/forums/showthread...ull=1#post94329 http://lplive.net/shows/20040818.php Need to add Bert from The Used on Faint. http://lpassociation.com/forums/showthread.php?t=12021 Link to comment https://lplive.net/forums/topic/4513-submit-site-corrections-here/page/18/#findComment-182309 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Skipees Posted January 28, 2013 Share Posted January 28, 2013 Linkin Park Live: List Of All Soundboard Recordings Update: 26.05.2012 Lisbon, Portugal, Parque Da Bela Vista 27.05.2012 Landgraaf, Netherlands, Megaland 30.05.2012 Skive, Denmark, Strandtangen v/Skive Lystbådehavn 01.06.2012 Adenau, RP, Germany, Nürburgring 03.06.2012 Nürnberg, BY, Germany, Volkspark Dutzendteich 06.06.2012 Bucharest, Romania, Romexpo 08.06.2012 Nickelsdorf, Austria, Pannonia Fields II 09.06.2012 Warsaw, Poland, Pepsi Arena 10.06.2012 Moscow, Russia, Tushino Airfield 12.06.2012 Odessa, Ukraine, Stadion Chornomorets 14.06.2012 St. Petersburg, Russia, Petersburg Sports And Concert Complex 11.08.2012 Bristow, VA, Jiffy Lube Live 12.08.2012 Uncasville, CT, Mohegan Sun Arena 14.08.2012 Mansfield, MA, Comcast Center 17.08.2012 Camden, NJ, Susquehanna Bank Center 19.08.2012 Alpharetta, GA, Verizon Wireless Amphitheatre 21.08.2012 Auburn Hills, MI, The Palace Of Auburn Hills 22.08.2012 Cincinnati, OH, Riverbend Music Center 25.08.2012 Noblesville, IN, Klipsch Music Center 27.08.2012 Dallas, TX, Gexa Energy Pavilion 28.08.2012 The Woodlands, TX, Cynthia Woods Mitchell Pavilion 30.08.2012 Englewood, CO, Comfort Dental Amphitheatre 01.09.2012 Calgary, AB, Canada, Fort Calgary 02.09.2012 Edmonton, AB, Canada, Edmonton EXPO Center 04.09.2012 Vancouver, BC, Canada, Rogers Arena 05.09.2012 Tacoma, WA, Tacoma Dome 10.09.2012 Chula Vista, CA, Cricket Wireless Amphitheatre 14.09.2012 Mexico City, Mexico, Arena Monterrey 05.10.2012 Buenos Aires, Argentina, Estadio G.E.B.A. 07.10.2012 Sao Paulo, Brazil, Arena Anhembi 08.10.2012 Rio De Janeiro, Brazil, Citibank Hall 10.10.2012 Rio De Janeiro, Brazil, Citibank Hall 12.10.2012 Porto Alegre, Brazil, Gigantinho 07.11.2012 Capetown, South Africa 10.11.2012 Johannesburg, South Africa just check me and add tours names. Link to comment https://lplive.net/forums/topic/4513-submit-site-corrections-here/page/18/#findComment-182326 Share on other sites More sharing options...
[AndOne] Posted January 28, 2013 Share Posted January 28, 2013 While looking up venue names for Fort Minor tv performances I found this: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/CD_USA This page mentions Where'd You Go being performed at CD USA. Not sure how legit that info regarding Where'd You Go is. I couldn't find anything about a 2nd performance that happened around May (where FM performed Where'd You Go on tv shows). Holly Brook was also on CD USA but in April and performed one of their own songs. Link to comment https://lplive.net/forums/topic/4513-submit-site-corrections-here/page/18/#findComment-182327 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Astat Posted January 28, 2013 Share Posted January 28, 2013 While looking up venue names for Fort Minor tv performances I found this: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/CD_USA This page mentions Where'd You Go being performed at CD USA. Not sure how legit that info regarding Where'd You Go is. I couldn't find anything about a 2nd performance that happened around May (where FM performed Where'd You Go on tv shows). Holly Brook was also on CD USA but in April and performed one of their own songs. Could possibly be that they just aired a previously recorded performance of the song on CD USA too. Link to comment https://lplive.net/forums/topic/4513-submit-site-corrections-here/page/18/#findComment-182347 Share on other sites More sharing options...
[AndOne] Posted January 29, 2013 Share Posted January 29, 2013 The info on wikipedia doesn't seem that reliable to me. It's the only place I could find that mentions it and the page has no source listed. If it was really performed there would be a video somewhere, especially since the song was pretty big back then. Nothing on LPTimes, no photos. Some more FM stuff: Fort Minor live on Mancow posted by Jas, 01/26/06 In their latest Myspace blog entry, Mike says Fort Minor will be playing on the Mancow's show on Monday, January 30 at 8 am. Mike also said to tune in to the 2006 Winter X Games airs January 28 through January 31 on ESPN. Fort Minor tracks such as "Remember The Name", "Believe Me", "Petrified", "High Road", and "In Stereo" will be played throughout the show. we're going to be playing MANCOW's show on monday morning. for those of you who get his show, listen for us at about 8am. i think we're only going to play one song, but it's going to be interesting: we've never played that early before! they asked if we could just use the instrumental and rap over it, but i politely asked if i could have the whole band play (all 11 of us), since that's how we do it on stage. they agreed, so we'll see how it turns out. it should be fun. see you out there on tour... Fort Minor live on Mancow posted by Jas, 01/28/06 An update from FM Newsletter regarding FM performing on Mancow's Morning Madness on Monday, January 30. Tune in at 9:00am CST (check your local affiliates for times) on Jan. 30 on your local radio station: Link to comment https://lplive.net/forums/topic/4513-submit-site-corrections-here/page/18/#findComment-182382 Share on other sites More sharing options...
hahninator Posted January 30, 2013 Share Posted January 30, 2013 I will research for Mancow info. http://lpassociation.com/forums/showthread.php?t=21153 I am pretty sure FM did a rehearsal at Third Encore and MTV. showed RTN, Petrified and Believe Me from it (and maybe one other song?) on MTV.com. I remember this pretty well. I will also look into it. It's possibly another FM date we are missing because I don't see where they could be from on our current FM page. We were the first site to archive all the FM stuff and we didn't start until late 2006/early 2007 so we are missing stuff still, of course. I hope we can find archives of old FM videos too, like Enth E Nd w/ Chester from the MySpace show in LA and RTN/Petrified from AT&T Blue Room (Atlanta 2006)....I hope someone has them on their computer somewhere haha. EDIT: I have a ton of FM stuff on my computer....found the RTN/Petrified videos, a 50 minute interview with Mike from 99X Atlanta the day of the show about the Grammy's and FM, and a ton of other random live clips and stuff from FM's shows. Lots of interviews too. Might have to make a big list of it. A few clips of Numb/Encore from Washington DC with like 25 people on stage for Mike's birthday LOL. Full videos of some songs from Taiwan, Sydney and some other shows....really cool. Link to comment https://lplive.net/forums/topic/4513-submit-site-corrections-here/page/18/#findComment-182429 Share on other sites More sharing options...
lpliveusername Posted January 30, 2013 Share Posted January 30, 2013 http://lpassociation.com/forums/showthread.php?t=21153 I am pretty sure FM did a rehearsal at Third Encore and MTV. showed RTN, Petrified and Believe Me from it (and maybe one other song?) on MTV.com. I remember this pretty well. I will also look into it. It's possibly another FM date we are missing because I don't see where they could be from on our current FM page. Do you mean the "MTV Overdrive" videos you gave to LPTimes? I still have these videos. They played "Believe Me", "High Road", "Petrified" and "Remember The Name". All videos have "MTV.com Live" in the title. Link to comment https://lplive.net/forums/topic/4513-submit-site-corrections-here/page/18/#findComment-182431 Share on other sites More sharing options...
hahninator Posted January 30, 2013 Share Posted January 30, 2013 Do you mean the "MTV Overdrive" videos you gave to LPTimes? I still have these videos. They played "Believe Me", "High Road", "Petrified" and "Remember The Name". All videos have "MTV.com Live" in the title. Yep. Just found them on my computer in .wmv files. My dates in my FM folder are messed up...I thought I had the date they were aired. My folder says: Nov 2 - MTV.com Live Nov 3 - AOL Sessions Nov 5 - LA MySpace Show live guide says: Nov 2 - AOL Sessions Nov 3 - LA MySpace Show I believe these videos are from the day before AOL Sessions but maybe my FM live folder dates are wrong. The show isn't on the live guide at all. My computer says I downloaded them on Feb 23, 2006 but that doesn't help I guess. LPA posted on Feb 25 about them so I don't recall when exactly this performance was :/ http://www.lptimes.com/fm/fmvideo.html Fort Minor live on MTV Overdrive Believe Me High Road Petrified Remember The Name Source: MTV Overdrive Credit: Hahninator Link to comment https://lplive.net/forums/topic/4513-submit-site-corrections-here/page/18/#findComment-182432 Share on other sites More sharing options...
lpliveusername Posted January 30, 2013 Share Posted January 30, 2013 Yes. Can you upload them? I just found them on my computer too but when I play them (.wmv files) they're fucked up. The videos are protected. For some reason I was never able to watch them when I had Windows XP. (I'm using Windows 7 now) After I've seen your post I tried to play them again. First with Media PLayer Classic, but, as you said, the video was "fucked up". Since they are .wmv files, I tried to open it with Windows Media Player. It showed a messenge saying I have to download/update something in order to play the videos. That's what I did and it worked. I can finally watch the videos now. Link to comment https://lplive.net/forums/topic/4513-submit-site-corrections-here/page/18/#findComment-182433 Share on other sites More sharing options...
hahninator Posted January 30, 2013 Share Posted January 30, 2013 They don't work when I use VLC but they work for Windows Media Player. I think I will upload them to YouTube soon. http://lpassociation.com/forums/showthread.php?t=21762 Also on May 1 we are missing a show for Fuse's Daily Download of Where'd You Go w/ Holly. So that's a few more shows we should add sometime haha Link to comment https://lplive.net/forums/topic/4513-submit-site-corrections-here/page/18/#findComment-182434 Share on other sites More sharing options...
StaticXero Posted January 31, 2013 Share Posted January 31, 2013 http://lplive.net/shows/20020204.php Show Notes: - This was the second to last show that 'And One' was ever played at. ... Is this info really necessary? Link to comment https://lplive.net/forums/topic/4513-submit-site-corrections-here/page/18/#findComment-182494 Share on other sites More sharing options...
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