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Fixing all the things you said Astat, just have a few questions. The only thing is that all the Back to 2014 links seem to work for me. Is it a problem with a certain browser/theme maybe?

-At least as of the Carnivores tour, Mike has been using Wretches and Kings verse 1 OR verse 2 during his solo medley (he used verse 2 at Camden). I have no idea which shows got which verse, but LPL currently says verse 1 for all performances, which is wrong.

 

-Until It's Gone in Set A has a transition outro into What I've Done, which now also has an extended ticking intro compared to the European version.

-All performances of Mike's solo medley that feature the verse from Remember the Name feature TWO verses, not just verse 1. Mike does both of his verses from the song. Since the studio verses go Mike > Tak > Ryu on verse 1 and Ryu > Tak > Mike on verse 2, Mike combines his two "sections" together to create one verse.

-All Carnivores tour performances of Runaway feature an extended intro, which isn't noted on any LPL pages as far as I'm aware.

 

1) Not directed at you, but if anyone can help find out at what dates Mike rapped Verse 2 that would be appreciated.

2) Should I list the WID Intro as "Ext. Ticking Intro", or just list the UIG Outro as "Transition Outro"?

3) How should I list this on the page? Should I just explain it in the notes or put something in the song notes?

4) I have it listed as an Outro Transition to Rebellion. Is it better suited as an extended intro for Runaway?

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Fixing all the things you said Astat, just have a few questions. The only thing is that all the Back to 2014 links seem to work for me. Is it a problem with a certain browser/theme maybe?

 

 

1) Not directed at you, but if anyone can help find out at what dates Mike rapped Verse 2 that would be appreciated.

2) Should I list the WID Intro as "Ext. Ticking Intro", or just list the UIG Outro as "Transition Outro"?

3) How should I list this on the page? Should I just explain it in the notes or put something in the song notes?

4) I have it listed as an Outro Transition to Rebellion. Is it better suited as an extended intro for Runaway?

1) Here's what I could find. I'm pretty sure some Europe dates had v2 as well. I'll check that in a moment.

West Palm Beach - ??? (No videos that I could find)

Tampa - v2

Charlotte - v1

Bristow - v2

Camden - v2

Mansfield - v2

 

2) I'd say UIG Transition Outro, as it has that drum beat sample layered over the ticking, which acts more as a transition than a simple extended intro.

3) Just put it in the show notes and leave the song notes as "w/ Wretches and Kings, Remember The Name"

4) It fits better as an extended intro to Runaway, as nothing really acts as a transition between Rebellion and Runaway.

 

UPDATE:

OK, after checking every video available for Mike's Solo Medley (so every show but WPB), it has occurred to me that Mike does a "Hybrid Verse" of sorts on the WAK section. He mashes up the two verses of WAK instead of just doing one.

 

Whether or not we want to add it/make note of it is entirely up to you guys, just thought I'd point it out.

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Fixing all the things you said Astat, just have a few questions. The only thing is that all the Back to 2014 links seem to work for me. Is it a problem with a certain browser/theme maybe?

 

1) Not directed at you, but if anyone can help find out at what dates Mike rapped Verse 2 that would be appreciated.

2) Should I list the WID Intro as "Ext. Ticking Intro", or just list the UIG Outro as "Transition Outro"?

3) How should I list this on the page? Should I just explain it in the notes or put something in the song notes?

4) I have it listed as an Outro Transition to Rebellion. Is it better suited as an extended intro for Runaway?

I'm not talking about the "Back to 2014" link. I'm talking about the "Linkin Park Live > Pages > Shows > 2014" link above that.

 

Rebellion seems to completely stop before Runaway, so I'd go with an extended Runaway intro. Outro transition on UIG makes the most sense, but we'd need to differentiate it from the UIG > ALTNC transition outro somehow, because it's a lot different.

 

*Edit* And yeah, Mike's doing a weird hybrid verse on Wretches. I don't think he's ever gotten the lyrics to that one right, going all the way back to the ATS tour. :lol:

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As I said before Crawling seems to have a short intro while New Divide has no transition

I'm completely baffled as to what you're trying to say here. You used Bristow as your example in your original post. Yet on the Bristow show page, there is nothing about New Divide having an outro transition, and Crawling wasn't played at that show. That's the case for all of the Set B shows. Nothing wrong there. For all of the Set A shows, the Crawling beat clearly comes in underneath the outro synth from New Divide. That's a transition. Once the Crawling synth starts, it's exactly the same length as the album version. That's not a "short intro."

 

Are you trying to say we should change the way New Divide/Crawling are listed in Set A because of the way New Divide is played in Set B? Because if you are, that's fucking ridiculous.

 

Anyway...here are a few corrections for Set B. Not nearly as many this time around.

 

-Lying From You has a really weird arrangement. It goes DOYS/LFY verse 1 > DOYS/LFY chorus w/Jay-Z vocal samples > LFY verse 2 > LFY chorus 2 > LFY bridge w/Jay-Z vocal samples > LFY chorus 3 > DOYS/LFY outro. It's basically the full song, save for the intro...but it doesn't really follow the format of the album version OR the Collision Course version. I almost feel like we should list it as "Dirt Off Your Shoulder/Lying From You (2014 Version)" or something to that effect. Or "Lying From You (2014 Version w/Dirt Off Your Shoulder samples). BTW, it's "Dirt Off Your Shoulder," not "Dirt Off Your Shoulders."

 

-There's some kind of sample intro thing before BID starts the encore. It's not the Until It's Gone sample from Europe like they use with LITE in Set A...not really sure what it is.

 

Other than that, I think we've pretty much got everything!

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Thank god, this one won't take me three hours to do haha.

 

- I'll talk with Mark to see what to do about Lying From You.

- Adding the Burn It Down note now.

 

Another thing I'm adding is that at the two most recent shows (Wantagh and Mansfield) the intro to 'With You' was cut.

I think this could be added to the show page:

 

 

 

It all takes the band back to the very beginning, like their memorable first set at the Whisky. "Our very first show there we opened up for SX-10, with Sen Dog from Cypress Hill, and System of a Down," Shinoda recalled. "I remember really vividly that I had seen System play there before.
"It was the era where Incubus played there all the time, System played there quite a bit. And we played our set, which was probably 30 minutes at the time, and it was all friends. Nobody had even heard our music – they were there just to support friends."

After SX-10 performed, System of a Down's set was memorable for other reasons, he said. "It turned out that a couple of the guys had smoked weed with Sen backstage and got laid out. They were incapacitated. They were two hours late to start their set because some of them were just, like, unable to function." On the Strip? We'll have to take his word for it.

http://www.rollingstone.com/music/news/linkin-park-headlines-sunset-strip-music-fest-20130802

A few random notes for the Carnivores tour:

 

Wantagh: This show had a different out music, I dont know what the exact name is but it was an In The End parody, I'm pretty that it was always the OSC cover until this show.

 

Darien: There were fireworks coming from the park a couple of times during the show. Crawling cover outro music

 

Toronto: Crawling cover outro music. Mike's keypad was stuck for a moment in the beginning of his skin to bone solo

I have some info I lik to share;

searching around the web I found some details and sources about some shows that we don't know nothing about:

 

First is this one http://lplive.net/shows/db/2000andearlier/20000922:

I've found a potential setlist (maybe incomplete) from this source http://myzuka.ru/Album/212588/Linkin-Park-Live-In-Unkown-Location-Syracuse-Ny-2000 (of course Carousel doesn't sound live at all but the other songs are OK)

 

The I've got this one http://lplive.net/shows/db/2000andearlier/20001107

This source http://myzuka.ru/Album/210096/Linkin-Park-Live-In-State-Theatre-2000 it seems fake to me (both setlist and sound quality)

http://lplive.net/shows/db/2001/20010505

'Live Debut' & 'Jane's Addiction cover' notes are missing

 

http://lplive.net/shows/db/2001/20010514

'Live Debut' notes for Jane Says can be deleted


http://lplive.net/shows/db/2000andearlier/xxxxxxxx-1
Location is called 'Canoga Park'

http://lplive.net/shows/db/thesnax/20001007S
Other Notes can be deleted -> it's already in the Tour Diary


http://lplive.net/shows/db/thesnax/20001209S
Location is called 'Big Bear Lake' & venue is called 'Pine Summit Christian Camp'

http://lplive.net/shows/db/guesting/20121211

 

You can see Mike singing Backing Vocals on some parts during 'Paradise City'.

 

Fight For Your Right: song is called '(You Gotta) Fight For Your Right (To Party!)'


Steve Stevens (no Camp Freddy member) is playing guitar on '(You Gotta) Fight For Your Right (To Party!)', 'Sex Type Thing' and 'Paradise City'.

-The ticking intro to What I've Done is longer on the Carnivores Tour than it was on the European tour (likely because of Until It's Gone being right before it, Mike has to change guitars before he runs up to his keyboard).

-Couple typos on this page (which may apply to other pages from this tour as well, I haven't checked): http://lplive.net/shows/db/2014/20140826

"Mike and Chester sang part of 'Numb/Encore' of the outro." -> "Mike and Chester sang part of 'Numb/Encore' OVER the outro." Should probably specify "over the outro of Numb" too."

"Mike and Brad started playing a chord progression based off that of 'The Catalyst' during Rob's solo." - After Rob's solo, not during.

Also for the Other Notes, it was $13 for fair admission and ANOTHER $13 for parking. Over $100 total investment before you even got in the door if you had pit tickets.

http://lplive.net/shows/db/2014/20140809

 

 

 

09. Runaway Shortened (Intro/First Verse/Chorus Only); Ext. Intro; Ext. Outro Transition w/ Wastelands Verse 1

 

I think it should be noted somewhere in the show page that this was not the album version of verse 1:
http://lplive.net/forum/index.php?showtopic=11133&page=6

-The ticking intro to What I've Done is longer on the Carnivores Tour than it was on the European tour (likely because of Until It's Gone being right before it, Mike has to change guitars before he runs up to his keyboard).

 

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Fixed everything but this note - I'll talk with Mark to see if we want to change how we currently have it listed.

 

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Fixed!

Posting this here that we don't forget about it, and I'm not sure what's the best way to fix this real quick.

 

http://lplive.net/shows/db/2004/20040820

Just FYI, Less Than Jake was on the PR04 tour but they did not perform in Dallas due to one of the band members being sick. Ghostface Killa of the Wu-Tang Clan took their spot on the main stage.

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