Skipees Posted October 26, 2013 Share Posted October 26, 2013 We started to discuss about it in another thread and it was too far from the original topic, so I moved all the related stuff to this thread. Continue here. Quote Link to comment https://lplive.net/forums/topic/10322-the-definition-of-the-stagelights-material/ Share on other sites More sharing options...
Geki Posted October 26, 2013 Share Posted October 26, 2013 Loop Jam really isn't a LP song. Quote Link to comment https://lplive.net/forums/topic/10322-the-definition-of-the-stagelights-material/#findComment-205030 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Skipees Posted October 26, 2013 Author Share Posted October 26, 2013 Loop Jam really isn't a LP song.Why? Quote Link to comment https://lplive.net/forums/topic/10322-the-definition-of-the-stagelights-material/#findComment-205035 Share on other sites More sharing options...
JZLP-Benningstrong Posted October 26, 2013 Share Posted October 26, 2013 Loop Jam was just a demostration of what you can do with all the samples that the program has.. it doesn't counts as a LP song, that's just my opinion i want to listen to Astat's opinion. Quote Link to comment https://lplive.net/forums/topic/10322-the-definition-of-the-stagelights-material/#findComment-205061 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Skipees Posted October 26, 2013 Author Share Posted October 26, 2013 Loop Jam was just a demostration of what you can do with all the samples that the program has.. it doesn't counts as a LP song, that's just my opinion i want to listen to Astat's opinion. All the five (Brusier, Complimentary, Loop Jam 1, Loop Jam 2 and Space Station) are from the program. But if Mike considered Complimentary as a song, so the others (that came from the same place) are songs too. Edit: From the LP Underground email sent on December 10th: "We are offering a free download of Stagelight Music Software to all LPU members. LPU members will receive exclusive Linkin Park sound packs and unreleased songs with Stagelight Software. Download codes will be sent to all LPU members on Wednesday, December 12th." Quote Link to comment https://lplive.net/forums/topic/10322-the-definition-of-the-stagelights-material/#findComment-205062 Share on other sites More sharing options...
kiq fLP Posted October 26, 2013 Share Posted October 26, 2013 It's a interesting point. IMO, I don't consider the Loop Jams as Linkin Park songs, as I don't consider the MtM Clips as LP songs. But we have to consider some points: - Even 50-sec / 1 min demos as Stick and Move / Sad are demos released by the band and can be consider as songs by this game; - As Skipees said, Mike consider Complimentary as a Linkin Park song, and, probably, he just mixed the multitracks from some songs and made Complimentary, as the Loop Jam's; - Loop Jams are a bunch of partial tracks/demos mixed together, but Until It Breaks is it too, and is a song. It's a terrible comparison, but So, I really don't know what to say... Quote Link to comment https://lplive.net/forums/topic/10322-the-definition-of-the-stagelights-material/#findComment-205064 Share on other sites More sharing options...
JZLP-Benningstrong Posted October 26, 2013 Share Posted October 26, 2013 All the five (Brusier, Complimentary, Loop Jam 1, Loop Jam 2 and Space Station) are from the program. But if Mike considered Complimentary as a song, so the others (that came from the same place) are songs too. Edit: One thing is creating a song with the Stagelight (Complimentary) by a band member so that makes it official Bruiser was clearly created by Mike too. In my opinion the Loop Jams were created by a random guy, I'm not really sure about Space Station. Quote Link to comment https://lplive.net/forums/topic/10322-the-definition-of-the-stagelights-material/#findComment-205066 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Skipees Posted October 26, 2013 Author Share Posted October 26, 2013 Even if these songs are demos (this is what I think about the Loop Jam 1/2), they can be here since we used until now a lot of the LPU demos. In my opinion the Loop Jams were created by a random guy, I'm not really sure about Space Station.Wow. Quote Link to comment https://lplive.net/forums/topic/10322-the-definition-of-the-stagelights-material/#findComment-205068 Share on other sites More sharing options...
JZLP-Benningstrong Posted October 26, 2013 Share Posted October 26, 2013 Why the wow? lol Quote Link to comment https://lplive.net/forums/topic/10322-the-definition-of-the-stagelights-material/#findComment-205069 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Skipees Posted October 26, 2013 Author Share Posted October 26, 2013 Why the wow? lolBecuase you're saying that if the band recorded something and someone else "build" it to a song, it's not their song. Basically it's like to say that Hybrid Theory and Meteora are Don Gilmore's albums. Quote Link to comment https://lplive.net/forums/topic/10322-the-definition-of-the-stagelights-material/#findComment-205073 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Geki Posted October 26, 2013 Share Posted October 26, 2013 You guys can cal Loop Jam a LP song if you want. It probably is technically a LP song. I just don't consider it to be a LP song at all. Just my opinion. I consider Bruiser, Complimentary and Space Station to be LP songs, but not the Loop Jams. Quote Link to comment https://lplive.net/forums/topic/10322-the-definition-of-the-stagelights-material/#findComment-205074 Share on other sites More sharing options...
kiq fLP Posted October 26, 2013 Share Posted October 26, 2013 You guys can cal Loop Jam a LP song if you want. It probably is technically a LP song. I just don't consider it to be a LP song at all. Just my opinion. I consider Bruiser, Complimentary and Space Station to be LP songs, but not the Loop Jams. It's what I think too, but technically Loop Jams are LP songs, as you said, and are valid for this game, IMO. Quote Link to comment https://lplive.net/forums/topic/10322-the-definition-of-the-stagelights-material/#findComment-205077 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Geki Posted October 26, 2013 Share Posted October 26, 2013 So can I post a demo from the making of MTM that we never got as a guess then? Quote Link to comment https://lplive.net/forums/topic/10322-the-definition-of-the-stagelights-material/#findComment-205079 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Skipees Posted October 26, 2013 Author Share Posted October 26, 2013 So can I post a demo from the making of MTM that we never got as a guess then? No, only previously released stuff. Quote Link to comment https://lplive.net/forums/topic/10322-the-definition-of-the-stagelights-material/#findComment-205080 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Geki Posted October 26, 2013 Share Posted October 26, 2013 No, only previously released stuff. Loop Jam is basically a 'mix' of all the demos stems and shit released through Stagelight. Demos that we never got the real version of. Take Chicken Basket, for example. Quote Link to comment https://lplive.net/forums/topic/10322-the-definition-of-the-stagelights-material/#findComment-205090 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Skipees Posted October 26, 2013 Author Share Posted October 26, 2013 Loop Jam is basically a 'mix' of all the demos stems and shit released through Stagelight. Demos that we never got the real version of. Take Chicken Basket, for example. Same as Sold My Soul To Yo Mama, and if someone will put this for guess you'll not say a single letter against it. Am I right? Quote Link to comment https://lplive.net/forums/topic/10322-the-definition-of-the-stagelights-material/#findComment-205093 Share on other sites More sharing options...
JZLP-Benningstrong Posted October 26, 2013 Share Posted October 26, 2013 Same as Sold My Soul To Yo Mama, and if someone will put this for guess you'll not say a single letter against it. Am I right? Except that Joe did that track and the Loop Jams were probably made by a stranger so if i use the loops and create a song with Stagelight it's gonna be official? Quote Link to comment https://lplive.net/forums/topic/10322-the-definition-of-the-stagelights-material/#findComment-205095 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Skipees Posted October 27, 2013 Author Share Posted October 27, 2013 Except that Joe did that track and the Loop Jams were probably made by a stranger so if i use the loops and create a song with Stagelight it's gonna be official? No, you're not a producer/mixer. Who is this stranger that you keep talking about? You're imaging that there's someone that made it and you're talking like it's a "probably" fact? Quote Link to comment https://lplive.net/forums/topic/10322-the-definition-of-the-stagelights-material/#findComment-205096 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Astat Posted October 27, 2013 Share Posted October 27, 2013 (edited) The Loop Jams consist 100% of stems from other LP demos released through Stagelight. There is no original music found in those songs that isn't found elsewhere in the program. Bruiser, Space Station, and Complementary are original songs. I don't get why it's so hard to understand the difference. Saying the Loop Jams count as LP songs is like saying it would count as an LP song if I put the What I've Done acapella over the New Divide instrumental. Same as Sold My Soul To Yo Mama, and if someone will put this for guess you'll not say a single letter against it. Am I right? Sold My Soul is like 10% Papercut/POA samples, 90% original music. Big difference. Edited October 27, 2013 by Astat Quote Link to comment https://lplive.net/forums/topic/10322-the-definition-of-the-stagelights-material/#findComment-205115 Share on other sites More sharing options...
JZLP-Benningstrong Posted October 27, 2013 Share Posted October 27, 2013 In your face Skipees! Thanks for the info Astat you are the #1, wish there was a notification system when you post something lol Quote Link to comment https://lplive.net/forums/topic/10322-the-definition-of-the-stagelights-material/#findComment-205117 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Skipees Posted October 27, 2013 Author Share Posted October 27, 2013 The Loop Jams consist 100% of stems from other LP demos released through Stagelight. There is no original music found in those songs that isn't found elsewhere in the program. Bruiser, Space Station, and Complementary are original songs. I don't get why it's so hard to understand the difference.I never said the Loop Jam 1/2 are originals. There's no word for something like this that I know (this is why I called this thread "The definition of the StageLight's material"), it's not exactly a song, not exactly a demo and not exactly a remix (the closest one). So like I said, I consider them as demos. Even you described and explained these without to categorized. Anyway, the point now is if the band created these, or some imaginary friend of Joze? Saying the Loop Jams count as LP songs is like saying it would count as an LP song if I put the What I've Done acapella over the New Divide instrumental.That will be called mash-up. Quote Link to comment https://lplive.net/forums/topic/10322-the-definition-of-the-stagelights-material/#findComment-205123 Share on other sites More sharing options...
LPMaskMan Posted October 27, 2013 Share Posted October 27, 2013 These are not real demo LP songs. Just demos for a DAW. If you install any DAW, most of them has at least 2-3 demo songs. So LP just cut together stems and made loops then put them into a project in this DAW. Quote Link to comment https://lplive.net/forums/topic/10322-the-definition-of-the-stagelights-material/#findComment-205125 Share on other sites More sharing options...
kiq fLP Posted October 27, 2013 Share Posted October 27, 2013 Astat said what I tought about the Loop Jam's. But I still have a doubt: Mike made Complimentary using the StageLight software and parts of Burn It Down, Lost in the Echo and Roads Untraveled. So this song could be consider a LP song or is in the same category that the Loop Jams? Quote Link to comment https://lplive.net/forums/topic/10322-the-definition-of-the-stagelights-material/#findComment-205159 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Skipees Posted October 27, 2013 Author Share Posted October 27, 2013 Astat said what I tought about the Loop Jam's. But I still have a doubt: Mike made Complimentary using the StageLight software and parts of Burn It Down, Lost in the Echo and Roads Untraveled. So this song could be consider a LP song or is in the same category that the Loop Jams?This is the main reason for my opinion. In your face Skipees! Thanks for the info Astat you are the #1, wish there was a notification system when you post something lol This is not a battle about WHO'S right, it's a discussion about WHAT'S right. As long you acting like a fan of Astat, you should learn from him one of his best trait, he's trying to prove his opinions without being arrogant. For some reason you don't prove nothing but acting like a big snooty. Quote Link to comment https://lplive.net/forums/topic/10322-the-definition-of-the-stagelights-material/#findComment-205162 Share on other sites More sharing options...
JZLP-Benningstrong Posted October 27, 2013 Share Posted October 27, 2013 (edited) @Kiq fLP that's because Mike did while it's still uknown if the Loops Jams were made by him. @Skipees calm down dude i'm just messing around we were just discussing, not in a battle as you mention. Edited October 27, 2013 by Linkin JZÉ Quote Link to comment https://lplive.net/forums/topic/10322-the-definition-of-the-stagelights-material/#findComment-205163 Share on other sites More sharing options...
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