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Added to main post the info about the FF/QWERTY LPU Vinyl.

The video is awesome! Could they release it on iTunes?

The 3-track digital single of QWERTY is coming to all digital platforms this Friday. The single contains the live version of the song that the band recorded at the Chiba Marine Stadium in Tokyo, the instrumental version and studio version of the song. Tracklist: 01.QWERTY (Live In Tokyo, 2006) (3:54) 02.QWERTY (Instrumental) (3:21) 03.QWERTY (3:21) Source: Apple Music EDIT: A special vinyl edition of the single will be released for LPU members: Friendly Fire / QWERTY 10" Glass Clear Vinyl LPU Exclusive (cat. 054391275127) LPU Store Description: This 10" limited edition Glass Clear vinyl record is limited to 1000 copies and features the Papercuts tracks "Friendly Fire" and "QWERTY." Exclusive to LP Underground members. Pressed in the USA. Price: $19.98 Track 1 / Side 1 Friendly Fire Track 2 / Side 2 QWERTY The Pre-Order for it is available under this link.

QWERTY release week!

I finally ended comparing the songs versions from Papercuts CD with original album versions and single versions. Here are the results: 01.Crawling (03:29) - album version 02.Faint (02:42) - album version 03.Numb/Encore [Explicit] (03:26) - album version, but: the 2004 is louder, the volume of this one was a bit decreased - additionally it has +1 second of silence at the end - 2024 quality, maybe a small differences in mastering/EQ 04.Papercut (03:04) - album version, despite not having 1 second of silence at the start like the original version from the 2000 CD has - very small portion of the end was cut and added to beginning of BTH to create transition 05.Breaking The Habit (03:14) - contains small transition from Papercut - album version, it missing 2 seconds with transition to FTI at the end, because it was fade out 06.In The End (03:35) - album version - -1 second of silence at the end 07.Bleed It Out [Explicit] (02:44) - album version 08.Somewhere I Belong (03:34) - album version 09.Waiting For The End (03:51) - album version, with fade out at the end just before the blackout transition - 2012 master with different effects on vocals and guitar loop at the beginning (check the updated post here) 10.Castle Of Glass (03:24) - album version with just almost 1 second of silence cut at the end 11.One More Light (04:11) - album version, the last 3 seconds of it were cut and added to BID to create transition 12.Burn It Down (03:49) - album version, almost 1 second a the end was cut from it - contains small transition from OML 13.What I’ve Done (03:25) - album version - it has an issue with intro fade in, the same like WID in some digital versions of MTM 14.QWERTY (03:21) - it's 2008 version, which means no transition from Annoncement Service Public and extra 2 seconds of silence at the end - on the Papercuts CD the 2 seconds of silence at the end were cut - quality upgrade 15.One Step Closer (02:35) - album version 16.New Divide (04:29) - the same as 2009 version, 2 seconds of silence at the end were cut - 2024 quality, maybe a small differences in mastering/EQ 17.Leave Out All the Rest (03:20) - can't really say if it's single version or edited album version, I guess it's edited album version - it contains 1 second of silence more at the end comparing to the single version 18.Lost (03:16) - album version, not 2002 mix, 2 seconds less of silence at the end - 1 second of ending of it was cut and added to Numb to create transition 19.Numb (03:06) - album version - it contains small transition from Lost

So 2012 version of WFTE has: - different effects on vocals and guitar loop at the beginning 2012 Iridescent: - a bit different effects on Mike's vocals at the beginning (2012 version vs 2010 version)

Well, that's not true. You see they are using a Hi-Res 24-bit as a source quality for the vinyls, the same source usually goes for digital platforms that sells/stream music in Hi-Res quality. And HTEP disc is one of those included on HT20 that is available on HDtracks in Hi-Res quality, there are very noticeable differences in mastering and both both gentleman's are mentioned in the credits for songs from HTEP. So yeah at least they are releasing the same files digitally.

Here are the credits of the HTEP vinyl from HT20: credits says: Mastered by Pat Kraus Mastered for a vinyl by Brian Gardner Can someone explain to me what's the difference between the vinyl and CD mastering. Is it mean (based on the credits) that they took the original HTEP copy mastered by Pat Kraus to Brian and he use it to make the mastering for a vinyl, is that right? Because if Brian worked on the complete unmastered version then what's the point to include the Pat's credits if only one person mastered the whole thing?

Since we know it now, let's call this alternate version of WFTE the 2012 version. I was comparing the Papercuts version with the album versions from the 2010 CD I bought because I wanted to check if there is no transition to Blackout at all or it can be still noticeable and then I have noticed that the "got" at the end sounds different so I decided to compare and check the whole track. All vinyls of ATS were released in 2010, there is no any single one released in the later years, based on the info from lpcatalog, so I'm assuming there's no vinyl edition containg 2012 version of WFTE. If it's about the digital version, there is a standard version available on spotify here and bonus version here, containing the 2010 originals, both are also available on qobuz and some other digital stores. I think currently iTunes and Apple Music are the only two not having the 2010 versions anymore. Also, I compared the WFTE music videos, the one that I bought from iTunes few years ago. The SD quality and full HD (that contains audio in Apple Digital Master quality) both has the original 2010 version of the song but the new 4K upgrade which is on YouTube and in some other digital platforms contains the 2012 version.

Confirmed: this version of WFTE was delivered to digital stores in 2012 that became Mastered for iTunes/ 24-bit versions in some digital stores. So it's the same time of when the wrong versions of SOTD, NRL was delivered.

So Waiting For The End on "Papercuts" CD contains no transition to Blackout which is happening for the first time, since the WFTE Promo CD single or the official CD single released in stores had the album version of the song. Besides the lacks transition to Blackout, the song also contains different effects used on vocals. A different delay effect on the Papercuts version can be heard when you compare below two fragments: WFTE-album version WFTE-papercuts/2012 album version Another example with even more noticable difference is at the end when Chester sings the last word "got!": WFTE-album version WFTE-papercuts/2012 album version When you compare those fragments you will be able to hear those differences. Also, there might be something else which I'm not sure about it. I exctracted the acapella from both versions and I want you to compare and let know what you think about it. Here are two fragments of the acapella: WFTE (acapella)-album version WFTE (acapella)-papercuts/2012 album version When Chester sings "Flying at the speed of light" - it's about the last word "light" it sounds a bit different and the question is, is it sounds different because of the different effects on the vocals or it's different vocal take? EDIT: sometimes try to listen to those fragments in the different order, it can help to notice better the differences. EDIT2: the guitar loop at the beginning also has different effects: WFTE-2010-album version WFTE-papercuts/2012-album version

OK. Thanks!

Thanks for the info! OML has 4:12 not 4:15 is it also because of few seconds of silence removed at the end?

Thank You! So Lost was also edited sinc it has 3:16, not 3:19. The ending of it was probably shortened. I wold like to compare it and the rest of the tracks.

Can you post the length of all tracks from the CD?