nkramar

Here it is!

Your sharing of this is very, very, very much appreciated by this old school fan. To get anything pre-2004 these days is a welcome surprise.

If we ever get a chance to interview Mike, this would be a great question. If someone says yo there were 17 full songs, 12 on the album + NRL, WWDK, ATL, Blackbirds. What was the last one? Was it Ammosick? Then bam he will know what you mean and explain. A M&G would be a great chance to ask this too.

I'm guaranteed one in Camden, maybe I can ask.

Don't forget that they weren't the headliner for MFR in 05 - technically, they opened for No Doubt!

I'll pop in here with a bit more musical analysis and such, now that I've gotten in a few listens with headphones on:

 

-Surprised nobody noticed this, but Rob is 100% using a double bass pedal on this song. It's not in there a lot, but it shows up in the drum fill under the melodic guitar line during the intro (the guitar that mimics the vocals in the verses), and there are some double bass "gallops" under part of the outro guitar solo as well.

 

-Re: Chester's vocals. The amount of pitch correction used on a song like this is really hard to discern without at least having an acapella. I think a lot of people tend to forget that Auto Tune can be 100% transparent depending on how you use it. LP HAS been endorsing Antares in their album liner notes going all the way back to Hybrid Theory, after all. But the vocal sound is a lot more "dry" than most of the vocals on the last two albums. We've gotten used to hearing Chester's voice drenched in studio reverb, flangers, layered in 3 and 4-part harmonies, backed up by gang vocals, etc...with that said, I still think he sounds strained. This is the first time I've heard a studio cut from LP where Chester's voice sounded like it does during live shows. Kind of worrying to me (is his voice getting shot to the point that they can't even hide it with "studio magic" anymore?), but it ultimately doesn't detract from the song.

 

Also on the subject of vocals, there ARE backup vocals in this song. Each "tell us all again"/"show us all again" is doubled, as are the pre-chorus parts. There's also a harmony part that shows up in both pre-choruses and the second verse, and there are actually some gang vocal shouts on the repeated "GUILTY ALL THE SAME" lines after the second and third choruses.

 

-Electronics: There's plenty of Joe-ish stuff hiding in the background of this song. I definitely hear some MPC-style samples mixed in with the bed of synths that back up Rakim's verse. Not really sure where the Crawling comparison is coming from though, I don't hear it. There's also some pretty subtle scratching during the intro, it sounds almost like really staccato needle drops, creating a "tapping" noise. Also, there's a really distorted low-end synth that doubles the bass throughout most of the song, kind of reminiscent of New Divide.

Dammit. You wrote exactly what I was going to say.

*bookmarks Astat's post, as usual*

First listen this morning while sitting at work. The addition of Rakim was nice, and I agree that they'll likely drop the part altogether live and for a rock-friendly radio edit.

Will be listening to it a few times through the day. Won't take long to grow on me!

:fingerscrossed:

The fact that there's any question on this... I'm sure there'll be a recording or two, at least!

I might go to 1 or two dates.

Which shows?

Nick are you gonna be at the Holmdel show?

He can't, it's a monday.

What he said.

Calling Nick, calling Nick

 

You're going for the side stage? Just think about you-know-what

Considering side stage, depending on price.

You know what not likely possible, but it would be fun as fuck, wouldn't it? LOL

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Official meet & greet laminate

On-site host

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Might splurge a bit and opt for this for Camden. Depending on price, of course.

Six was perfect. Nine means I see each setlist 3 times. Different venues, different crowds, band plays differently, different cities, etc. It all plays a part of the day. At the end of the night, the setlist is just a small factor in how the event went to me.

Except Camden 2012, when you refused to let us give you details about the setlist we saw on the Summit tour backstage...?

Ready for a road trip? ^^

You're coming for sure?

No EU for now. I hope a HT in full show is announced somewhere in the USA.

 

9+ shows for the whole east coast is perfect. Atlanta would be 10 and there is a four date gap there. Atlanta will get added I bet. Toronto and Montreal would make it 12. WOW. Huge tour for the USA again finally - LP just NAILED it.

Just need to know how many of you there'll be this year on the Smelly Zombie tour so I can get supplies to decontaminate all of you!

Only one show for me, but Philly/Camden shows are always the best!

Excellent. Will have to download this one once I get some time!

Think we had a live chat on Skype with a bunch of LPL members during this show while watching the live stream.

Mega Link: https://mega.co.nz/#!lUtwWAaJ!v7xye...CA9DMl8zpdKIIfM

Thank you!

Hard to believe we released it more than a year ago. Feels like yesterday.

Took forever to get it though!

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Quick question - How many would be interested in the full broadcast? If I get 10 people interested here, I'll upload to dime later in the week. Anything less than 10, maybe not worth my time immediately, but I'll still eventually get it up there.

Almost like a Demo Compilation album

 

Can you please PM me the file links? Thanks

No need to PM, they're freely available, probably still archived somewhere on the forums, not sure if download links would still work. I'll have a look around sometime this week and see what I can find. In the meantime, if anyone else has that file and can upload it, it would be greatly appreciated.

Those all went into one CD as a Bootleg? (and do you still have that Xero Rip of yours?)

All of them fell in at under an hours worth of music.

I'm sure I still have the separate tracks somewhere as I archived them from the torrent. Might even have the original rip in my master files.

There's not much of an audio difference between the LPU and the Original versions of the HTEP? and wouldn't "Ground Xero" be a song title?

Just had to look it up. It was 'Game Xero', not 'Ground Xero' and it consisted of the highest quality demos we had at the time - My own Xero tape rip, HTEP (from the original, not the reissue), Now I See from the Ozzfest sampler, etc.

Gotta dig that file up again and give it a listen. Been a long time.

I guess you don't know what I mean, I'm talking about the people that sell shows over websites, ebay etc.

I think it was in 2005 when Nick seed a LP demo compilation (HT EP, 2 track and 9 track I think) on Dime. I think it was the only place he ever seeded it and shortly afterwards it appeared in Japanese bootleg stores and is still for sale today.

 

If they are selling their own recordings that's fine but making money off of that is just not cool.

I seeded it several places - if I recall, it actually got banned from dime fairly quickly because of questions of official materials for the HTEP having been reissued by the LPU. I tried to appeal the ban but the dime mods were *shock* unwilling to listen and told me to take my torrent elsewhere.

I think I shared it on zomb thereafter.

Either way, it did make it's way to the bootleggers, I think under the release title "Ground Xero" or something like that.

Or Russians, if they happen to find a better source than Rutracker has

Actually, I don't think the Russians are all that bad, I don't see as many sources circulating from their labels, though I may not be paying attention to them as I once did.

I also seem to recall one Russian show having been scooped up by the Japanese bootleggers and sold shortly after it was shared... I don't recall the show, but it was the 'budwieser' source. Taper was quite pissed that it was for sale, even after he watermarked it.

**EDIT** St Petersburg, had to look it up.

I think DIME is a great tracker for live music, cause they actually care about quality with their strict rules.

Rutracker is good too, but honestly that site is in Russian, I'd probably never post the torrent there if I can't even read the rules etc. most of the stuff ends up on rutracker eventually so don't worry.

This.

Thanks

Any chance to upload the full broadcasted on dimeadozen or somewhere else?

If there's sufficient interest for the full broadcast, sure. The performances weren't exactly great IMO, but if people want them...

Could you PLEASE LPL rip the audio of the original file? 320 kbps mp3 would be very appreaciated! thanks.

The audio in this file is exactly the same as the original, so a rip from it should suffice.

I second that.. and on Rutracker, please?

If I do upload it, it'll be on dime.

What size would it be with:

 

just LP songs and Full Special?

The current torrent is just LP. About double the size for the full special.

The version in the video above is from the full MFR video. Qwerty95k edited it and posted it.

 

The DVD download above is from nkramar's AXS TV recording, not the MFR upload. It's a different source.

Not DVD though. HD .ts file.