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  1. I've seen a few people asking about Mike involvement in Of Mice & Men song so here we go:

     

     

    Carlile knew everyone needed a break from recording; the tension was getting to them. While back in California, he ran into Mike Shinoda. “We got to talking and had lunch together. I’d mentioned I was working on a new record and he seemed interested, so we went to his car and we listened to these super rough demos. I was doing vocals, even though I felt pretty silly. I had idolised this guy, now I’m singing to him in his car,” Carlile laughed. “Suddenly he looked at me and said, ‘You would be an idiot not to let me help you with this. I love it.’ He [Mike] helped bring that song to life and it was that day in the car that started our friendship with Linkin Park.”


    That song turned out to be Feels Like Forever, the record’s lead single and arguably the stand out track on Restoring Force. “It has become one of my favourite songs. I don’t want to sound corny but Aaron bringing that song to the table was the restoring force for our band.”

     

    http://www.beat.com.au/music/mice-men-0

     

    Not 100% releated to this topic since Mike isn't credited but I want it to be somewhere on LPL, soon we'll create a Linkinpedia page for it.

  2. Pre-Linkin Park

    - Chester joined the band in 1998. Linkin Park even released merch on the A Thousand Suns and Living Things world tours with the wrong 1998 date. However, it is well-documented and confirmed by Chester himself (even as recently as February 2017) that he joined in March 1999 on his 23rd birthday...the date of his audition for the band. Mike actually has said several times he believes 1998 is the date, which is why the LPU demos featuring Chester have the incorrect 1998 date. http://lplive.net/forum/index.php?showtopic=10025

    - Xero has two demos called "The Team" and "Explode", which are found on a setlist from the 1997 "Lynus Brook Club" show. "Explode" and "The Team" were said to be demo versions of "Part Of Me" and "Carousel" (respectively) on many Xero biographies. But this information can't be true, because these songs ("Part Of Me" and "Carousel") were written after Mark left the band. http://lplive.net/forum/index.php?showtopic=9868 http://lplive.net/forum/index.php?showtopic=10142&page=3&do=findComment&comment=254879

    - This August 10th, 1997 Xero setlist is fake, but is listed as: "Rhinestone", "The Team", "Reading My Eyes", "Untitled", "Explode", "Rhinestone (Part 2)", "Now I See", and "Fuse". There are three HUGE problems with this though... (1) outside of discussion directly related to this supposed Xero show, there is no evidence anywhere on the entire Internet that the "Lynus Brook Club" ever existed. (2) Mark Wakefield is not credited as a co-writer of With You or In the End (while he is on other songs that originated during the Xero era - A Place for My Head, Forgotten, and Runaway), making the existence of Now I See/Untitled during the Xero era an impossibility. (3) The date of this show (August 10th) falls before the Whisky a Go Go show on November 14th where Xero opened for System of a Down, which has been confirmed to have been the band's first show. http://lplive.net/forum/index.php?showtopic=10142&page=3&do=findComment&comment=254879

    - Super Xero was not the first name of Linkin Park. They went by Xero (and briefly, Xero 818 for a period of time) before changing their name to Hybrid Theory.

    - The secret song found at the end of the Hybrid Theory EP is not a demo for "Session" from Meteora. It has no known track title. http://linkinpedia.com/index.php?title=Track_7

     

    Hybrid Theory era

    - The From The Inside book that Linkin Park released has a page that says "Linkin Park performed 324 shows in 2001, almost one a day." This is one of the most common false statements about the band. Confirming dates with tour itineraries from 2001 and cross-referencing them with linkinpark.com, fansites and press articles announcing tour dates, we have concluded that Linkin Park performed 165 shows in 2001. 324 would literally be impossible, taking just a few days off all year. http://lplive.net/shows/2001 http://lplive.net/forum/index.php?showtopic=10025

    - The "High Voltage" (Reprise Version) released in 2001 (live version found on LPU 2.0, studio version found on the One Step Closer single) was a remix by Mike, not Joe.

     

    Meteora era

     

    Minutes To Midnight era

    - Linkin Park never broke up in 2005, and no members ever left the band. The band took a break after 2004's exhausting touring cycle for Meteora to work on other projects (Fort Minor, Dead By Sunrise) and to settle legal arguments with their record label Warner Bros. They performed live twice in 2005 and five times in 2006. Sessions for the Minutes To Midnight album began in 2006, but Mike even worked on new Linkin Park music in 2005.

     

    A Thousand Suns era

     

    The Hunting Party era

     

    One More Light era

     

    LP Underground

    - As mentioned above, the demos "Slip", "Blue", and "So Far Away" are mislabeled as being from 1998 when the earliest that they could have been created is 1998. Dedicated, listed on LPU 2.0 as 1999, has the correct date. These wrong dates did not start showing up until later LPU albums as the band understandably became hazy with the details on the songs.

    - QWERTY (LPU 6, Summer Sonic 2006, etc) never has had the track title of "Lies" or "Behind Your Lies".

     

    Other

    - There are no Linkin Park song titles with the names "Hardly Breathe" or "Spell It Out". Both of the parts for these (fake) songs are actually from the song "Rock And Roll (Could Never Hip Hop Like This) Part 2". http://linkinpedia.com/index.php?title=Rock_And_Roll_(Could_Never_Hip_Hop_Like_This)_Part_2

    - "Giving In" is a song by Adema, not Linkin Park, and Mike does not have vocals on Evanescence's "Bring Me To Life".

    - Mike was not the producer of the song "Marco Polo" by Styles Of Beyond.

  3. Fixing some inconsistencies in the live guide. Changing the following:

     

    Piano Version (Live Debut) -> Piano Version Live Debut

    Full Band Live Debut

    Stripped Down; Live Debut -> Stripped Down Live Debut

    Acapella Live Debut

    Reggae Version Live Debut

     

    The affected songs are:

    • Pushing Me Away (Acoustic Piano Version 1, Piano Version 2)
    • In The End (Acoustic)
    • My December (Acoustic, Piano Version 1, Piano Version 2)
    • Crawling (Acoustic, Acapella, Stripped Down)
    • Breaking The Habit (Piano Version)
    • Hands Held High (Acapella)
    • Leave Out All The Rest (Acoustic)
    • The Messenger (Acoustic)
    • The Little Things Give You Away (Acoustic)
    • Rolling In The Deep (Acoustic, Piano)
    • In My Remains (Acoustic)
    • Final Masquerade (Acoustic 1, Acoustic 2)
    • LOATR/SOTD/Iridescent (Stripped Down)
    • Burn It Down (Stripped Down)
    • Talking To Myself (Stripped Down)
    • One More Light (Stripped Down)
  4. Yeah, so like I said....Astat can say whatever he wants because you know him, but that doesn't apply to others....seems logical.

    No, I was very clear about what you both (basically all of us here) can or can't do and how. I don't think that there's any point to explain it again so you can just reread my reply if you haven't understood my explanation.

  5. I love how Astat can talk crap to me, but when I reply, some moderator decides they have to remove my post. What's the deal here? Astat has free reign to talk crap, but I'm not allowed to reply to him? He acts like a know it all dickhead 90% of the time, but I guess that's ok. This place has become a joke. I guess as long as you love everything LP does and agree with the higher ups, you're all good.

    The answer is very simple: we're all (staff, members, readers) prefer to read music-related comments and not a personal duel, but while Astat's smart enough to hide his opinion about you behind criticism (+ in the bottom of an actual comment) you're way too direct ("douche", "dick", "dickhead", etc.) with your counters and that's definitely unacceptable. Feel free to fly under the radar and reply, no action is taken as long as you both don't bother the other people who are using that site.

     

    DEFINITELY nothing to do with your or his opinion about the music or the band.

  6. Am I the only one waiting for those? Please don't forget to put them up.

    In general, we must root out a lot of the tracks since these are the regular album versions. The bright point of it being a compilation and not a mixtape is that there are no shouts or rewinds over the Xero tracks.

     

    About SOB, the "Drop" shouldn't be a problem but prepare yourself for "Back It Up" to be just "Easy Back It Up" from 2000 Fold.

  7. Can't really blame him either... He's usually busier than any of us. When you make that many songs for that long things can get lost in the shuffle. Didn't he also find the demo slip in his closet a few years ago? If he wasn't cleaning we never would have heard it

    Blue.

     

    Now that I think about it the exact quote was:

    "I forgot this song existed until I found it on a CD in a box in my closet this year. This song and "Slip" were done in sessions leading up to the recording of Hybrid Theory."

     

    Just throwing an idea here: why is Blue was on the CD but not Slip if they're from the same sessions and Slip was released on the same release (LPU11)? Maybe this "CD" is another mixtape/compilation like Rapology?

     

    Might be just a burnt CD from the studio though.

  8. Also, been doing some digging on the Rapology series and trying to find out whether any other LP-related tracks were featured on them. So far, I've managed to track down tracklistings for volumes 2, 4, 8, 9, 15, and 16 - nothing featured on any of those, but of note, High and Mighty's "B-Boy Document '99" is featured on volume 16, which was sampled in She Couldn't. I'd be willing to bet that's where Mike and/or Joe first heard the song.

    In case that's any helpful some of the releases using a word instead of a number and I think the 12th release called "Rapology Twelve" .

  9. So two questions left. This:

    Because of how Drop starts ("Hi, we're back. Kenji, Artofficial. Rapology 13."), I think they might have been featured in the Rapology series before. We should probably look for volume 12 and see if there's another Xero track.

    and what's/who's 007.

  10. 1. "Drop" is, for all intents and purposes, an untitled track. An overwhelming majority of tracks on these compilations are just titled "Drop."

     

    2. "Fiends" is just titled "Fiends" and I'm really not sure why it's being debated. A little common sense makes it clearly obvious that "F/007" is supposed to be "featuring 007," and if you guys would actually bother to look at the rest of the tracklisting you'd see every other artist on these compilations has their record label credited after their song's title. "CO Rap Up" is "courtesy of Rap Up," which is presumably another early indie label name Xero was associated with like Mix Media. Remember, Rap Up gets a shoutout in one of the scratch samples in It's Goin Down.

     

    Sorry for sounding like a dick, I'm just a little confused why anyone would think "F/007 Fiends CO Rap Up" sounds like a song title lol.

    It's in a question because of the font size. "F/ Miss Jones" has the a bigger size (like the artist itself) and a space between the "F/" to the featured artist. Of course "F/007" doesn't make any sense and this is why we're trying to solve it all.

     

    It's not "CO Rap Up", it's "CD Rap Up".

     

    Tracks without labels has asterisks to note that these are exclusives in my opinion. Hence why "Rap Up" isn't there to refer to a label name.

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