Fleur de Lys

This was exactly what I expected from the second I heard it was gonna be more electronic driven last year. I'm not surprised. And it's really nice and new.

People calling it a mess: Are these rythms slighty to hard for LP fans to understand or what? Just because it's not 4/4, dosn't mean it's a mess. And I like the structure of the song, it's really hard to follow, it dosn't use the verse-chorus-verse-chorus-bridge-choruschorus. And that's great. You can just sit back and enjoy, not thinking about where in the song you are. It breaks out of some of the structural rules that have been there for ages.

Also, this is very close to the original if you ask me, and I doubt there will be anything interesting on the last bits, but we'll see.

Well, it sure does sound like auto-tune.. The robot voice. That isnt my thing.. I dont know how the rest of the album will be but if has that robot voice all over it, then i will be really sad i paid over 100 euros with the pre-order.

You can't hear autotune. It's a common mistake that you can hear autotune, but you can't. It's easily done, and you have to have very trained ears to be able to hear it. I'm not saying LP never used it, but what you are hearing here, my friend, is just an effect.

I hope it's the album name, it sounds great in my ears. Much better than Minutes to Midnight.

I really can't wait, this will be good.

Mike said like late last year they were already working on a new stage set up.

 

I have heard rumors saying the stage will be totally different and have art all over it. Like Mike is going to have this big rig thing where he has multiple keyboards (I assume the New Divide synth thing too) in a big layout that rotates and has his artwork on it too. I guess in a big square or something, idk. But I heard Mike will have this big setup with rotating keyboards and art.

The place selling tickets has this qoute on their show page.

Joe Hahn: "We are working to create a special experience for our fans where each of these live performances is designed to be a transformative multi-media experience, blending our songs and art and featuring never-before-seen visual technology."

R.I.P. Ronnie. Your music kicked ass, heavy metal father.

what did you expect from warner? xD

thats normal^^ they try to make money of everything

What exactly does this have to do with Warner?

People were booing at the big festivals, and that's not funny, put yourself in the shoes of Chester for a minute.

The theory that Chester is doing this for more sales is bullshit. I guess that these comments will sell around 50 CD's, if not less, and to think such comments will help the overall sales is stupid and Chester knows that. I hate these conspiracy theories on the big bands, this is NOWHERE near a marketing trick.

He is just reflecting on the bad sales, I believe he really loved this record, and it got a lot of negative reviews, bad sales, and people booed them off at concerts. That's a really big slap in the face, because he thought people would like it, I feel fucking sorry for him. And the band isn't really gaining any fans as far as I know, just LP fans saying: "It's allright, but I like LP better". And that's not what he expected.

I do think it's a good record, and I love singing along to it, he has awesome melodies.

Awesome idea, I'll definitly pay for a download.

Where have you been? lol.

Sorry about that, Christmas holidays, haha.

Did you guys see the edit in the post? He played keys at the Chi Cheng / Deftones benefit show apperantly. I had no idea about this performance. Who was he playing with? Any YouTube videos up?

Wow, I always thought Chester was screaming his lungs out douring his growls, but apparantly not. When he says "My My" in the My Suffering video, he has a really low output, and it sounds exactly like his screams, just lower. Guess Chester really is one of those mic only screamers, I'm a little dissapointed.

The performance of What I've Done wasn't even anything special, I just hate the way Chester sings "Doooone". Anyway, pretty cool. But they should've picked Bleed It Out, since it was awesome there and it was a single too.

My best guess is that they had the song finished, they just had to go back and mix/master it when they decided to release it, since it would have been cut before they entered that phase with the remainder of the album.

Exactly what I was going to say. I think they had the recordings, and just needed do a final mix and that's what Brad meant. Across The Line is mixed as good as the rest of Minutes to Midnight, which makes it more of a b-side than a demo actually.

The thing people think is "crazy" about the guitars on the Faint demo is the fact that the melody is played with powerchords only, instead of octaves and harmonizing powerchords, it might sound pretty cool and fresh to your ear now, but really, the real guitars in the real version are much much better musically in my opinion.

That goes for all the demos, Figure 09 for instance, it sounds pretty fresh and new right now, but when you think about it, the guitars are much better on the real version. The bridge has much more rythm in the real version, just go back and listen and compare, it's much more developed, much more special on the real version. The tapping riff in the intro is much more badass on the real song, though the guitar sound is more raw on the demos, which is pretty dope.

In my opinion, what you really get out of this is a deep inside look of Linkin Park's working process, and that's really really cool, so I love this LPU CD, it's the very best yet. But in my opinion all the songs are better than the demos, everything else would be stupid as it's demos.

I like Across The Line, very unique track.

Is it just me or do the Dead By Sunrise videos seem really low budget? The camera quality is of course top notch but the directing and effects don't seem that spectacular. That guy that did their videos is a great director but something is just missing in these videos. It makes me think DBS didn't dish out a lot of money for them. Oh well, it's about the music..just would have liked some awesome music videos to go with them if they were going to do it at all.

 

Thanks for posting!

I think what you're missing is a storyline to go with the performance. They're are both just band performances.

LP has in ear monitors that are mixed just like Pooch mixes the live sound you hear at the shows. There is a separate in ear monitor guy that mixes them - he just mixes just what LP hears in their in ears.

 

Anyway than another person is responsible for the click tracks. Click tracks are started in the in ears for every song of the setlist except the piano songs (Pushing Me Away / My December / etc). The guy (Dylan) starts them and then LP comes in whenever they are ready. This is true for songs like Reading My Eyes and Valentine's Day too when it appears Rob starts the song, but the click track always comes first.

 

Dylan also gets a cue from Joe to start Cure For The Itch when it is in the encore and gets a cue from them to start the long intros (One Step Closer in 2007 & 2008, No More Sorrow, What I've Done, etc). Whoever is closest to him usually just gives him a cue, so it could be anyone in the band. Session is included in this.

 

On New Divide after Mike does his synth/keyboard intro, Dylan starts a click track, which lets Joe know when he should start the regular ND intro you hear.

 

So yes there are in ear monitors the band uses to start ALL of the songs except the keyboard (piano version) ones. Even Shadow Of The Day has a click track - in some live performances you can see Mike nodding his head to it before you even hear the intro to SOTD start, etc.

Wow, that's very interesting! Where did you get this info?

Someone, please ask him how he keeps tight to the samples Linkin Park use live, I always wanted to know if he's using a click in his earmonitors or..?

This is 100 % the best performance I've seen from this band.

Crawl Back In is up now.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bvy6M0G11rU

Well, everyone has got him or her style of dressing, right? Other people like the way the guys dress... Black is the "color" to wear when you're fashionable. Black is not only for emos or something alike.

Look at LP a few years back. You can't say they dressed really well back then...Their look war horrible!

I don't know how old you are, but they didn't look horrible back then at all. It may look horrible now, but they all had the "skater style" back then, which noone thought looked ugly back then.

Well to be honest:

 

I like the songs. the melodys and rythyms are amazing. BUT: the lyrics are too sad and emo indeed. Comon you are like 35 years old, you shouldnt stuff like "I wanna cut through my skin" and "Sometimes I feel like I wanna die". They have a good point on that one.

 

Besides that, even though theyre good musicians (also live), i cant watch their live performances. They come over like gays, except for Chester.

 

Now dont be mad at my post, but Im telling you how I feel about DBS. Amazing music, but really really too sad lyrics and clothes and make up etc.

 

And I really cant stand emo's. Sorry guys.

I don't like their appearence either, but who cares? It's clothes. This is music.

I think the "I wanna die" part is very honest actually. He might be 35 years old, yes, but his life was a fucking mess when he wrote that song, he thought he was never gonna see his kids again and he just got devorced. He was even living in a small apartment because he had no money. Who can blame him? At least he isn't writing lyrics that are tailored to fit whiny teenagers anymore. Like Runaway and Numb, which are both about hating your parents one way or another. In my opinion.

Anyway, it's also very stupid to use "I wanna cut through my skin" as an example. If you were actually paying attention listening to the song, and not taking things out of context, you would know that the next sentence is: "and pull you within". So it's a love song. It has nothing to do with actually cutting through your skin.

I guess you only hear what you want to hear huh?

@rav0k -

 

I couldn't disagree more. Where the fuck did the money aspect pop out from dude?

The sound, the "TONE" of the instruments, has changed a lot, guitars and drums especially. And that is just my own perception. Im not saying that anyone else has to feel that way. Money??? Well, who doesn't want it anyway? I would! And besides, the sound has got nothing to do with money. So all in all....it's just a stupid thing to say in the first place.

I personally think the drums sound a lot better now. The band as a whole is, as you said, also better now. They're a lot tighter.

Brad changed his amps from Marshall to Randall before the MtM touring cylcle. His distortion is a lot cleaner now, not as raw as back then.

While I normally prefer cleaner distortion, I think his new distortion lacks bass and fill. That's why his guitar sounds so low on live recordings. So all in all, his old amps fits the band better in my opinion.

Condemned, Let Down, WIC sounds fucking awesome.

The rest did not do anything for me. Yet.

It's an okay song. Best riff until now, all though that dosn't say much.

The people talking about auto tune are wrong, you can easily get vocals in tune today and it's impossible to hear. That, people, is called an effect.

Though, I don't like the sound of it either. And I'm not saying they havn't used auto tune, but that's definitely not what you're hearing.

Ever heard of Hybrid Theory and Meteora? Those albums are way more over-produced than anything DBS has released to this point. Meteora especially.

 

 

 

Pretty much all the drums on JK's studio recordings are programmed. It shows how badass Elias is that he's able to translate them into live drum parts though.

 

 

 

Little Sister and My Suffering are 2 out of probably thousands of songs that are built around a minor key I-V-iii-vii progression.

 

 

 

I also must be the only person who thinks the studio version destroys the live version (I feel that way about all 3 DBS songs released to this point). DBS live has not impressed me one bit so far.

Haha, I agree on Hybrid Theory and Meteora being overproduced. In my opinion a more raw approach would have been a better fit for this song though.

You're not the only one, I like this version far better. I think the screaming in the chorus sounds out of place in the live version, and I can't hear the double bass drum.

DBS live impressed me. They pretty much had whole crowds against them from beginning to end but they still rocked out. Also, Chester is ten times better live on these songs than he is on LP's.

I know a lot of songs uses this progression, but it's not only that. The start-stop rythm of the guitar throughout the verses is very similar to Little Sister. The 2009 melody of the verse is also very close. I liked the 08 version better, I never thought of Little Sister back then and the verses had so much more energy.