Fleur de Lys

I think what Mike is doing in this song is a hybrid of rapping and singing. And it's fucking awesome. I haven't heard anything like it before.

The funny thing is, the harmony Joe sings can clearly be heard in the end of the song, and he is waaaay better than Chester and Mike is at it sometimes.

But I must say, the whole band improved their singing very much since last time in the new live situations, including Chester. And I am very optimistic about the new songs live, I was afraid that major parts of the songs would just be backing tracks, because the album is so electronic, but I think they've avoided that so far.

Awesome.

Well, didn't any of you hear the interview from KROQ breakfest show? He joked, sitting at the keyboard, putting that exact effect over his voice, saying things that were definately not on the album haha. It's obviously an effect you can turn on and off. So it's not lip sync in my opinion.

Hmm. Everything except the gang vocals on The Catalyst was pitch perfect. I wonder how much they edited it.

If it is fo realz though, hands down, they really improved a lot on the singing since the last time.

No matter how good they sing, I think that the performances from ATS so far have been very solid, a pleasure to listen to.

I don't think he sounds a thing like David Draiman in the song, but it's been said more than once so maybe I'm just stupid.

That's because he's basically just an octave above version of David Draiman. They're not identical at all, but the way he sings is very Disturbed to me. Especially the rythms.

I love the agression. Awesome song.

Chester sounds so much like Disturbed in this song.

Me personal dont like mike singing, cause he just cant sing! He should better rap and let chester do the sing parts!!

How the hell do all you guys know that Mike can't sing? Ever heard of vocal training? You would all be amazed if you knew how much you can develop a voice over a short period of time. Mike is not stupid, he would not be singing a lot if he knew he would not be able to pull it of live.

Plus, Chester said not long ago that Mike has "developed" a strong vocal.

NOT THE AUTOTUNING IN THE T-PAIN ETC. STYLE:

 

They put a lot of layers and effects over the voices

 

 

maybe autotune is the wrong term...yes it is sorry.

It might not even be the wrong term. They might have used auto-tune, but then it's for the effect and not pitch-correction.

I don't like the sound of voice-effects either, only a little plate, reverb, delay, and such.

I seem to remember seeing a thread a few days ago about people complaining about chesters voice not being up to scratch? maybe the autotune is just being used to correct his pitch a tad. DONT READ TO MUCH INTO THIS. its a simple review. autotune dosnt have to make you sound like T-pain, thats not why it was invented and thats not its sole purpose. BUT ofcourse If you dramtically edit the pitch then it distorts the voice.

I'm sorry, but if they were just using the effect for pitch correction, you wouldn't be able to hear it at all.

One of my local bands for instance, used a lot of auto-tune in their songs, recorded in a little non-proffesionel studio, and it's impossible to hear.

So once and for all people:

IF LP JUST WANTED TO CORRECT THE PITCH, YOU WOULDN'T BE ABLE TO HEAR IT! --> WHAT YOU HEAR ON ATS IS AN EFFECT.

If you want a link to the local band I'm talking about, I'll post it. Non of you will be able to hear the autotune, and it's even just in some half-assed, non-proffesionel studio.

I like the song It's pretty awesome. They finally did something that's really new, genre-busting if you will.

Dude, i wasnt talking about the pitch.. The guy said that you cant hear auto-tune

Auto tune, pitch correction, call it whatever you want. If the artist wants it to be impossible to hear that they fixed the wrong notes, it's easy to do, and it's been that for years. Therefore, it's the artists choice if they want that robotic voice, it's more of an effect, cause if they just wanted to just sing clean, even though they could not in real life, they could hide the autotune much better.

This was exactly what I expected from the second I heard it was gonna be more electronic driven last year. I'm not surprised. And it's really nice and new.

People calling it a mess: Are these rythms slighty to hard for LP fans to understand or what? Just because it's not 4/4, dosn't mean it's a mess. And I like the structure of the song, it's really hard to follow, it dosn't use the verse-chorus-verse-chorus-bridge-choruschorus. And that's great. You can just sit back and enjoy, not thinking about where in the song you are. It breaks out of some of the structural rules that have been there for ages.

Also, this is very close to the original if you ask me, and I doubt there will be anything interesting on the last bits, but we'll see.

Well, it sure does sound like auto-tune.. The robot voice. That isnt my thing.. I dont know how the rest of the album will be but if has that robot voice all over it, then i will be really sad i paid over 100 euros with the pre-order.

You can't hear autotune. It's a common mistake that you can hear autotune, but you can't. It's easily done, and you have to have very trained ears to be able to hear it. I'm not saying LP never used it, but what you are hearing here, my friend, is just an effect.

I hope it's the album name, it sounds great in my ears. Much better than Minutes to Midnight.

I really can't wait, this will be good.

Mike said like late last year they were already working on a new stage set up.

 

I have heard rumors saying the stage will be totally different and have art all over it. Like Mike is going to have this big rig thing where he has multiple keyboards (I assume the New Divide synth thing too) in a big layout that rotates and has his artwork on it too. I guess in a big square or something, idk. But I heard Mike will have this big setup with rotating keyboards and art.

The place selling tickets has this qoute on their show page.

Joe Hahn: "We are working to create a special experience for our fans where each of these live performances is designed to be a transformative multi-media experience, blending our songs and art and featuring never-before-seen visual technology."

R.I.P. Ronnie. Your music kicked ass, heavy metal father.

what did you expect from warner? xD

thats normal^^ they try to make money of everything

What exactly does this have to do with Warner?

People were booing at the big festivals, and that's not funny, put yourself in the shoes of Chester for a minute.

The theory that Chester is doing this for more sales is bullshit. I guess that these comments will sell around 50 CD's, if not less, and to think such comments will help the overall sales is stupid and Chester knows that. I hate these conspiracy theories on the big bands, this is NOWHERE near a marketing trick.

He is just reflecting on the bad sales, I believe he really loved this record, and it got a lot of negative reviews, bad sales, and people booed them off at concerts. That's a really big slap in the face, because he thought people would like it, I feel fucking sorry for him. And the band isn't really gaining any fans as far as I know, just LP fans saying: "It's allright, but I like LP better". And that's not what he expected.

I do think it's a good record, and I love singing along to it, he has awesome melodies.

Awesome idea, I'll definitly pay for a download.

Where have you been? lol.

Sorry about that, Christmas holidays, haha.

Did you guys see the edit in the post? He played keys at the Chi Cheng / Deftones benefit show apperantly. I had no idea about this performance. Who was he playing with? Any YouTube videos up?

Wow, I always thought Chester was screaming his lungs out douring his growls, but apparantly not. When he says "My My" in the My Suffering video, he has a really low output, and it sounds exactly like his screams, just lower. Guess Chester really is one of those mic only screamers, I'm a little dissapointed.

The performance of What I've Done wasn't even anything special, I just hate the way Chester sings "Doooone". Anyway, pretty cool. But they should've picked Bleed It Out, since it was awesome there and it was a single too.

My best guess is that they had the song finished, they just had to go back and mix/master it when they decided to release it, since it would have been cut before they entered that phase with the remainder of the album.

Exactly what I was going to say. I think they had the recordings, and just needed do a final mix and that's what Brad meant. Across The Line is mixed as good as the rest of Minutes to Midnight, which makes it more of a b-side than a demo actually.

The thing people think is "crazy" about the guitars on the Faint demo is the fact that the melody is played with powerchords only, instead of octaves and harmonizing powerchords, it might sound pretty cool and fresh to your ear now, but really, the real guitars in the real version are much much better musically in my opinion.

That goes for all the demos, Figure 09 for instance, it sounds pretty fresh and new right now, but when you think about it, the guitars are much better on the real version. The bridge has much more rythm in the real version, just go back and listen and compare, it's much more developed, much more special on the real version. The tapping riff in the intro is much more badass on the real song, though the guitar sound is more raw on the demos, which is pretty dope.

In my opinion, what you really get out of this is a deep inside look of Linkin Park's working process, and that's really really cool, so I love this LPU CD, it's the very best yet. But in my opinion all the songs are better than the demos, everything else would be stupid as it's demos.

I like Across The Line, very unique track.

Is it just me or do the Dead By Sunrise videos seem really low budget? The camera quality is of course top notch but the directing and effects don't seem that spectacular. That guy that did their videos is a great director but something is just missing in these videos. It makes me think DBS didn't dish out a lot of money for them. Oh well, it's about the music..just would have liked some awesome music videos to go with them if they were going to do it at all.

 

Thanks for posting!

I think what you're missing is a storyline to go with the performance. They're are both just band performances.