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4 hours ago, leftshoe18 said:

Is that track list officially confirmed? The site has nothing listed for the DVD track listings and I've heard that the runtime of the 2002 Projekt Revolution show is about 10 minutes shorter than the full-show audience recordings we have from that tour. I wouldn't be surprised to see My Own Summer cut at the very least.

The audio tracklist is confirmed by LP and Warner. The DVD tracklist is not confirmed from what we've seen. Whatever this Rock Cellar Magazine is saying is full setlists from Fillmore, Rock am Ring, and Projekt Revolution. The run times for the first 2 match but it looks like PR 02 is going to be a little shorter. It's still a "full show", even with a couple of songs cut.

As Astat said, it's most likely going to be My Own Summer, Joe solo, and something else, unless the shit really self destructed with tech problems or wild fans stopping a song earlier in the set. For example, Runaway looks like an absolute disaster in San Diego so maybe that song is sacrificed (which no one would complain about because we have 1 billion Runaways).

X-Ecutioners are on It's Goin' Down in San Diego. It'd be cool to have. Z-Trip is on it in Vegas and a ton of guests are on One Step Closer. Surely we get something like that. Plus Chester played guitar on that song.

My December would be a REALLY nice one to see since it was full band.

We could certainly ask for an interview with Mike. We've never really asked for one but maybe the HT20 is a good time to do it.

What do you think, could this be "Could Have Been"?

33 minutes ago, berryaaron11 said:

i mean, when i tried to upload the leaked Mark Wakefield version of Pictureboard, WMG blocked it worldwide, so it could be possible that they are gonna use Mark Wakefields version. I cannot make promises though.

The automatic content recognition system used by WMG isn't like... it doesn't have to detect the whole song. If you use part of Burn It Down in a new song of yours, it might catch that. Anyway the point is that it caught the instrumental of Pictureboard there. If the Chester version instrumental is anything close to the Mark version instrumental, it's going to catch it. I wouldn't say that means the Mark version is on there at all, because Adam says it has Pictureboard with Chester on the release.

58 minutes ago, NJPLP said:

And you also said that Stick N Move (Demo) has Chester's vocals on the track.

It's possible but not known yet.

Mike: "But we certainly played Stick N Move at all the early shows with Mark, before Chester. And then when we went into the studio to do Hybrid Theory, Stick N Move was always a popular one at our shows, so we tried to make it work, and then Don just didn't like it. We were like "Yeah I get that. Like it's not as good as some of these other ones that are coming together. So we just broke it down into pieces and it turned into Runaway."

Just now, Trumtram said:

Just want to throw it out there: I bet Frat Party 2 will have easter eggs like the first one does. Who knows, maybe another home taped performance?

Very possible! Adam says it has a lot of footage from Projekt Revolution 2002, which is great because we have seen almost nothing from that tour.

LPLive members Mark and Anthony, via Instagram Live, thoroughly discussing and breaking down Linkin Park's incredible "Hybrid Theory (20th Anniversary Edition)" release which was announced on August 13, 2020.

Every single song, video, feature, and more was discussed in this hour and a half rundown, with our thoughts and opinions given on all of it.

It was really a" midnight special", going until 1:00am+ on release day but we wanted to be sure and get our very first thoughts on the album recorded. And hey, it didn't turn out half bad for our technologically illiterate selves, ha.

Anyway, we came away quite impressed - great job by Linkin Park and their team on this historic release!

3 minutes ago, NJPLP said:

Also is Reading My Eyes (Xero Demo) the same version as the version off the Xero Demo Tape from 1997?

Linkin Park recorded demos with Mark in the studio after the Xero tape. The Xero tape was recorded right to tape, so that's the ONLY version that exists for those exact performances of the song.

So in 1998 they got money to get new gear, and recorded Esaul, Rhinestone, Pictureboard, Slip, etc with Mark - and likely all of these Xero songs except for maybe Fuse. We think this will be a studio quality Reading My Eyes, much much better than the Xero tape. 

Yeah, not the band, the band's management, or Adam. Probably someone else at the label.

Just how it is I guess, what can we do?

6 minutes ago, plesh88 said:

I've listened to/ sung this song about 20 times with my newborn son in the last 24 hours. Just great that we have a clean mastered track after all these years. Would've been amazing if they had played this one live.

 

They just have too many good tracks that didn't make studio albums. Geniuses from the very beginning.

Agreed, have listened to the song so many times over the past day. The mastering really makes it sound so big. Such a unique song from the band.

As everyone saw on August 13th, Linkin Park released "She Couldn't" as the first official instant grat track from the Hybrid Theory (20th Anniversary Edition). "She Couldn't" is a demo from the 1999 recording sessions for Hybrid Theory that didn't end up making it on the album.

From Linkinpedia: 

"She Couldn't" is very differently stylistically from other Linkin Park material at the time. It is over five minutes in length and features an extended instrumental breakdown. "She Couldn't" also one of the softest songs the band has produced, particularly from the Hybrid Theory era.

This is also an extremely rare case of a Linkin Park song sampling music from another artist. "She Couldn't" samples Mos Def's vocals from "B-Boy Document '99" by High & Mighty where he says, "won't be long 'til everybody knows."

Although the demo CD was advertised as being from 1998, "B-Boy Document '99" was released on August 24, 1999, on High & Mighty's album Home Field Advantage, meaning the song had to have been written around that date at the earliest. The track was also present on The Urban Network's 1999 compilation Rapology Sixteen which featured illustrations by Mike Shinoda.[2] It's possible this CD is where he first heard the song.

On July 3, 2009, after LPLive released the full CD for free download, Mike posted on his blog about the song, "Many of you have asked about an old demo that is floating around. The song is called “She Couldn’t.” We recorded it in 1999 during the making of Hybrid Theory, but it never made an album and was never released by us. For legal reasons, that’s all I can say about the song, but I hope this clears things up!"

The leaked version of the song on the demo CD features static throughout the song as the initial pressing of the CD was faulty.

Yesterday, Mike Shinoda talked about the song at length, more than any time in the song's history.

On Twitch, he said, "Before we get to the box set, let me say something about "She Couldn't", which I know was floating out there on the Internet and never had an official release. A lot of people are going to be hearing it for the first time. Here's a thing about that song. And I didn't pick that, I don't know who picked that for the first track. It's not a single, we're not doing singles. But in terms of having a track come out with the announcement, that song was one of the first songs we wrote with Chester. It was one of the really early ones we wrote from scratch with that configuration of the band.

And here's some things that are in it - not really any distorted guitars. It's got the beats, it's got the electronic sounds, it's got a sample of Mos Def from a High & Mighty "Rawkus" release. Which by the way, shout out to Yasiin Bey, to Mos, for clearing the sample. So, it's got those things in it and the theme of the song, lyrically, the song is about the outsider and being there for somebody. Do you know what I'm saying? Like, I feel like that song is a foreshadowing of not just of Hybrid Theory, it's the foreshadowing of the next ten to fifteen years of the band. Like, we had everything we were from the very beginning, right? Think about that. Everybody knew us for the Hybrid Theory sound. Even before we released that, we had that song. And we had other songs like that. So that's the thing I thought was so dope. I didn't choose that song to come out first but that's something that I thought was so dope about that song."

Later that day on Twitter, he added, "Glad you like it! We didn’t re “mix” the audio, we just mastered it. That basically means we preserved the integrity of the original mix, but mostly adjusted EQ and overall volume." The song was mixed by Mike Shinoda and mastered by Brian Gardner.

Finally, that night, Mike posted a photo of Chester from the album photo shoot and said, ""She Couldn’t” is one of the earliest demos we made when Chester joined the band. Two things stand out about the song, to me: 1.) The programmed beat and focus on synth sounds and vocal loops (rather than heavy guitars) foreshadowed a future of the band many years after Hybrid Theory. In searching for our “first sound,” we set the groundwork for our later evolution. 2.) The softly-sung “you’re not alone” refrain reminded me that, although we debuted with a song screaming “shut up,” what most fans came to find out was that empathy and community were just as integral a part of LP’s DNA from the very beginning. Sincerely, thank you for the excitement about the #hybridtheory20 package. We’re so grateful to have had you with us all these years."

The track today, August 14th, has made rock headlines across the world. 

Kerrang did a "First Reaction" article about the track and had this to say:

"It’s very Hybrid Theory, isn’t it? Well, obviously, given that She Couldn’t is a song taken from the recording sessions from that album. But despite its softness and lack of the heavy guitars of One Step Closer or Crawling, despite its length and willingness to run at its own pace, rather than the no-second-wasted efficiency of the rest of that album, you could slot this anywhere in the album’s second half and it wouldn’t jar. It may be the one that got away, but it doesn’t sound like something that didn’t work, or of a band still finding its feet. By this point – basically the start of the story – Linkin Park already knew damned well who they were.

If She Couldn’t tells us anything, it’s that in that time, Linkin Park were so creatively fecund and focussed that they could make anything fit within their world, even at a stage before they’d sold a single record. It’s a reminder that, when they exploded, suddenly and enormously, it was because their music already had personality and identity, expertly crafted until it was exactly how its creators wanted it. And as She Couldn’t amply demonstrates, while Hybrid Theory is nu-metal perfectly formed and distilled, it also had its fingers reaching out into so many other sounds, not just as embellishment, but strong roots that fed nourishingly into the Linkin Park machine."

It's great to finally have the song in such awesome quality! Shout out to the visual creators at Warner who did the video for the song, which is really cool as it shows the photo shoot of making the album in sync with the music.

"She Couldn't" has truly come full circle.

34 minutes ago, Trumtram said:

RaR feels weird, kind of. But it was also one of LP's first really big festival crowd shows + on foreign soil. So it has some place in their history. I remember vividly how great it was, to see them "live" for the very first time via stream that day. Always loved the show because even though the weather is poor and it is daylight (rather cloudy though) they absolutely rocked the place. It also adds variety when you already have two indoor shows, one smaller and one pretty big.

Anyway, I'm so hyped :)! Very cool to see all your enthusiasm aswell!

I think Rock am Ring is good because it's like "the" iconic international venue for LP, all the RaR shows are totally epic and its regarded as a fucking amazing place to see LP. I think the quality we are going to get, based on the trailer, is going to be an upgrade. Maybe even some different angles. Looks very, very nice.

Agreed about indoor club, outdoor festival, indoor arena variety. Can't have too much of the same. Imagine if they had included London Docklands 2001 and left off Fillmore San Francisco or something. I'm glad we get a club show.

28 minutes ago, Hybridtheory said:

I just didn't understand, because in the LP's promotional video, they say "3 Full Concert"
and on the Rolling Stone Di website which is "san diego and Las Vegas"

does anyone know what information is correct?

 

could it be 2 Projekt revolution shows?

It's a compilation of two Projekt Revolution 2002 shows to form a concert.

LPFuse fansite in 2006:

FACTS OTHER LP SITES DON'T TELL YOU:

Towards the end of the "Making of Breaking The Habit" DVD, a black and white montage is shown. The full length clip, intended to express emotions, was supposed to appear on frat party 2.

Wow. Photo: http://web.archive.org/web/20060623004309im_/http://www.lpfuse.co.uk/gfx/bth_hand.jpg

It's right here: https://youtu.be/JcEHMh2tmXk?t=944

But this is Breaking the Habit live in 2004 with fans singing in the crowd too. So it seems unrelated to this DVD we are getting.

Looks like they had a lot of footage they shot for Meteora, which turned into LPTV episodes in 2007.

2 minutes ago, martinez said:

 

Grr has the same Length as on LPU. Hurry probably incorrect.

Chair and Hurry I mean. They are significantly shorter.

Chair and Hurry are probably incorrect lengths, right?

As far as Sad, Mike is the one who edited it down for release for LPU 9 so no surprise they are going with that one.

11 minutes ago, Diaux said:

They seem to totally forget that Fuse ever existed.

Pretty bummed about Part Of Me

Although i don't wanna know how some people would feel about the lyrics now, since they were crying over She Couldn't 

Fuse was likely not recorded in studio after the Xero tape. That's why. Same about Reading My Eyes with Chester, probably never recorded it with him.

Part of Me is the only song that logically seems to be left out for some reason, yes.

Landing right at 7:00 AM PST, Linkin Park has unveiled the highly anticipated Hybrid Theory 20 release via linkinpark.com!

The band has teased demos, unreleased songs, and more for a week on their throwback website marketing campaign, amping up fans for today's big announcement.

Welcome to Hybrid Theory 20!

It's incredible to think it's been 20 years since Hybrid Theory was released. All gratitude to our fans who made this epic journey we started 20 years ago possible. We dedicate our music to you. We rededicate our Hybrid Theory to you. #HybridTheory20 - LP

Track Listings:

The band's first pre-release song from the album will be "She Couldn't"!
 

DVD video content includes:

- Live at the Fillmore 2001 + Live at Rock am Ring 2001

- Frat Party at the Pancake Festival

- Live at Projekt Revolution 2002 +  "The Sequel to the DVD with the Worst Name We've Ever Come Up With" (aka Frat Party 2)

Incredible! Preorder now on linkinpark.com!

3 hours ago, letdownagain said:

Speaking on the bass thing, is it possible that Pictureboard and the Zomba Rhinestone are from the same sessions? He mentions them having new gear post-publishing deal on the podcast, so that gives us a bit of a timeline. It’s possible we’ll never know, but the leaked Pictureboard could have been tracked but not properly mixed and mastered the same way. It’s definitely not as rough as the cassette material, but not as polished as an official release. Also, do the LPU CDs with Slip, etc. have specific performance credits versus writing credits? Only think I can think I terms of some other timeline stuff towards the end of Xero into Hybrid Theory is the “Xero Reborn” thing being something both Chester and Pheonix both knowing. It’s a demo they both know, but we never heard. I wonder if anything coming on HT20 could be that?

Yes. Same sessions is the guess. Pictureboard, Slip, probably some Rapology stuff, Esaul, etc.

LMAO BIG FAN OF THAT IDEA ACTUALLY

They will be able to get a #1 album from this release. A big part of that is streaming. It most certainly will be on streaming. You'll want as many songs on streaming as possible for that.

The fact that he was in the band (Xero) with Mark, played live with them, recorded music, etc.... he is on the song.

4 minutes ago, xeroboi said:

I'm saying we won't be hearing any tracks tomorrow 

Disagreed huge based on LP always offering a pre-release song.

13 minutes ago, Coizu said:

 

Not saying that you are wrong but is there a source for this? The only connection between him and LP I found was the podcast he was briefly talking about it in and he is not mentioning that he recorded anything with them there. 

He was the bass player for shows and music. Not sure if that's because Dave was doing Snax stuff or what. And then Xero decided to hold auditions for another bass player, he auditioned but so did Dave and they picked Dave. That's the story this guy tells on his SoundCloud. We've never heard of him before yesterday.

Of course we contacted him yesterday to get more of his Xero story but he's not going to reply, he's a huge multimillionaire/businessman.

edit: Why would any logical person take a file that's been taken down, upload it elsewhere, and post it here? LOL 

What are you talking about? The band's demo CD. 

Yeah they'd absolutely do at least a show, maybe a tour for it. No doubt.

And a release.

Wow, it's finally happening.

The first new music release in 3 years.