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19 hours ago, NJPLP said:
Technique (Short) is 95 BPM, according to songbpm.com.
Grr (1999 Demo) is 100 BPM, according to the same site I mentioned before.
Coal (1997 Demo) is also 100 BPM, according to the same site I mentioned before.
Dedicated (1999 Demo) is 103 BPM, according to the same site I mentioned before.
Sad ("By Myself" Demo 1999) is 103 BPM, the same BPM as "By Myself" and "SuperXero ("By Myself" Demo)", according to the same site I mentioned before.
Sad ("By Myself" Demo 1999) BPM
Blue (1999 Demo) is also 103 BPM, according to the sames site I mentioned before.
Oh No ("Points Of Authority" Demo) is 95 BPM, the same as "Points Of Authority" and "Points Of Authority (Demo) [Forgotten Demos]", according to the same site I mentioned before.
Oh No ("Points Of Authority" Demo) BPM
Points Of Authority (Demo) [LPU Rarities] is also 95 BPM, the same as "Points Of Authority" and "Points Of Authority (Demo) [Forgotten Demos]", according to the same site I mentioned before.
Points Of Authority (Demo) [LPU Rarities] BPM
Stick And Move ("Runaway" Demo 1998) is 108 BPM, the same as "Stick N Move (Demo)", according to the same site I mentioned before.
Stick And Move ("Runaway" Demo 1998) BPM
Chair (1999 "Part Of Me" Demo) is 142 BPM, the same as "Part Of Me", according to the same site I mentioned before.
Chair (1999 "Part Of Me" Demo) BPM
Slip (1999 Demo) is 125 BPM, according to the same site I mentioned before.
Hurry (1999 Demo) is 117 BPM, according to the same site I mentioned before.
Esaul ("A Place For My Head" Demo) should be the same as "Esaul (Xero Demo)" and "A Place For My Head", where it is 133 BPM.
Forgotten (Demo) should be the same as "Rhinestone (Xero Demo)" and "Forgotten", where it is 110 BPM.
I know some of these are correct, but I'm not sure if all of them are correct. I'll wait for someone to check them out.
so no reason at all to post this. if someone wanted to know, they could google themselves to not find out if those numbers are right
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On 7/15/2021 at 5:35 PM, NJPLP said:
Stick N Move (Demo) has the same BPM as the remix spreadsheet 2.0.
yeah, 'cause I added it, when HT20 came out. but the fact that there's one track with the same bpm, doesn't mean they're a reliable source.
I'll check the songs' BPM for you and add them to the spreadsheetEDIT: alright, those were pretty accurate, but they made huge mistakes.
As said before, And One is like the only song by LP without click, so no BPM there - just a bold assumption made by a computer.
Also, seemingly Mike had a little fun with numbers programming the beats, because Dialate has a BPM of 105.678 seems intended to me, as well as Reading My Eyes' 136.636.
You cannot just round them up to something, because the click would speed up every beat compared to the track itself.
PB, She Couldn't and S'n'M were right though, my bad.
I also added the keys they're in and the time signatures. Need a little help with Could Have Been - I think it's in C# Phrygian, might also be C# Minor. I'm waiting on Astat's opinion, if he reads this. -
If you had fact checked it, you would have realized that And One isn't played on click (except the outro, which isn't 110 BPM but 100), and if it were, it would be around 115.
All the sources you find googling "BPM" or "Key" of a song differ from each other, and mostly you'll find they're all wrong.
I suggest you to get BPM from either linkinpedia.com (LPL) or the remix spreadsheet 2.0, which both are reliable sources. If the BPM aren't on there, you'd have to find out yourself or ask someone to help you find out. -
11 hours ago, EternalBoi said:
is a demo
it's a freakin working title, not a demo
11 hours ago, EternalBoi said:Well on Hybrid Party of A Thousand things there is something with the name along the lines of Harmonic Song Drums”
this is just wrong and you know that
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1 hour ago, lpliveusername said:
a title they used while working on the song
I think they were rather talking about something from early stages HPOATT-like.
And i mean since Mike said that doesn't know anymore, but believes that the song started with guitars and the beeping sounds, I get why they think there must've been more to the song before they tracked it for HT.
But as I mentioned before, I don't think they actually made a "demo" like Dust Brothers/Now I See.
1 hour ago, lpliveusername said:Just listen to Dust Brothers and Now I See, they are the same song as With You.
You could say that about a few more songs on HT, that had their working titles on the unmastered versions but final titles on the actual album. Which are basically exactly the same recording.
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19 hours ago, NJPLP said:
Or maybe just take the drums and guitar and put both of them together?
how should we know? I don't think we don't have anything from Harmonic Song on the multitracks. If there is something, it should basically be the drums, 'cause they decided on the name change while tracking drums.
19 hours ago, NJPLP said:don’t you think that “Harmonic Song” is an actual full out blown demo
I doubt they really did a demo of that, maybe some project in ProTools to structure it. But I think it was after they had written OSC and Papercut, when they started writing PMA, but who knows? You should go ask Mike, if he remembers at all or even answers.
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On 6/30/2021 at 9:44 AM, martinez said:
I can't post ANYTHING, ANYWHERE I can do that only once in a while. I didn't change or update anything. I think I would be less pissed off if I would have ban because that would be the reason why I can't do that right?
Why would anyone ever ban YOU?!
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7 hours ago, lpliveusername said:
"Harmonic Song" (working title) and "Pushing Me Away" (final title)
so we can actually tell, that the name Pushing Me Away was decided on on either March 15 or March 16, maybe that's also when the lyrics seemed about done. which would mean the song was an even closer call than we already knew it was, cause the lyrics should be finished before going into the studio. I wonder when Mike rewrote the lyrics of ITE to the final version. Very unlikely that a demo this late exists, but I would love to listen to Mike spitting the final lyrics onto the demo to try them out and check if they work, like a "Take 1 at home".
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15 hours ago, lpliveusername said:
I've watched the series and can't recall anyone confirming it was Dialate.EDIT: I'm blind. It says it right there in the text, that such information was exchanged behind the scenes.
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On 7/1/2021 at 12:46 AM, Robrobbsen said:
the more Overheads the more it gets that underwater filter like sound
yeah I feel that, I know it's not perfect and it's annoying - but patience - audio engineering has improved so fast
On 7/1/2021 at 12:46 AM, Robrobbsen said:2 guitar tracks, 1 bass, 2 or 3 vocal tracks and maybe a stereo drum track
yeah seems about right (even though no stereo drums) - but everything was mixed before tracking it onto a 1-track-machine, you can hear the quality has suffered when listening to each individual track but altogether no glitches are notable.
On 7/1/2021 at 12:46 AM, Robrobbsen said:no software I heard of can split a Drum bus into its elements again. Let alone decipher a samples beat from what counts as overheads for example
naaah definitely not. but I'm both excited and anxious about the future and what's to come
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40 minutes ago, Robrobbsen said:
not something for an official release from the band
George Martin and Crew actually did that for The Beatles' 1, Love and the RB game, with technology we would never had believed to exist back then
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7 hours ago, Robrobbsen said:
I see no other way to mix it,or at least all the stems that the band has. If I´m not wrong since the atmos channels are like little submixes, yout can´t cleanly take out drums from a track, maybe there is such technology but that would probs not work on songs that are packed that tight like LP productions are. Then its also a release by a huge band I don´t think they would do half measures in that regard.
Worst case would be the songs that just have no stems anymore since they lost them or whatever just won´t have Atmos verisons.
I'm pretty sure they don't even have all the original stems themselves. e.g. Reading My Eyes was a direct remaster from a 1-track-tape.
about the technology: what I've learned about how AI treatment does shit is shocking. you could even like extract single instruments from RME but still.. there's a difference between stems and deconstructed stems (even though the quality has increased alot over the last year.) If you're interested in deconstructing songs I suggest you getting a free trial of izotope's RX8. -
On 6/18/2021 at 4:51 PM, Robrobbsen said:
pitched up vocal of Chester
dude I'm starting to believe that's why it's so hard to get hands on the multi. they've been strict about those to prevent people from knowing that producing technique to make such amazingly strong vocals.
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they just treated the vocals on the 5.1 release like some sounds on CFTI
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5 minutes ago, NJPLP said:
I was wondering if it was an instrumental so I could make some sort of concept for the demo on what it could sound like.
well you'd have to ask JB if he remembers, but he barely answers anything the way you'd expect him to. I would advise rearranging Emo and putting some guitar on it, I think that should basically be it, but I',m just theorizing
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12 hours ago, IWillWalkAway said:
chords are a bit similar, same key, and the hi hats are somewhat similar and the tempo is about the same
welcome to pop music. If you went by that theory there's plenty of songs that you could consider inspiration for other songs
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15 hours ago, Robrobbsen said:
Interesting, She Couldn´t was always really interresting for me. The guitar part and overall structure was very different for LP at that time.
yeah me too. I like to believe that apart from the Emo demo (bars???), Flower was the actual thing with live instrumental ideas behind that. like Sky and Crawling are the same thing but actually not really
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I like how the site now says
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On 6/27/2021 at 1:02 AM, IWillWalkAway said:it's confirmed that beat in "Mike's Shirt" LPUTV is actually Take Away My Pride
I also like how people don't use sources. Who confirmed it?
On 6/28/2021 at 1:23 PM, Trumtram said:Let's see in two years
we gotta push hard to get there, I don't think Mike's even thinking about that possibility. If there's enough pressure, they might do something, but Mike said nothing's planned
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49 minutes ago, Robrobbsen said:
wonder if the "alternate" versions are the proper versions
I doubt they would replace the very LP-ish synth in SOTD for cheap string sounds. also 2013 NRL sounds like what they did to Iridescent in a hurry. Don't know about 2013 ATL though.
Sometimes I wonder if people do not have 2007 NRL offline? 'Cause in Germany MTM Tour Editions are no rarity at all. Even LPU9 is still available in some stores, so 2009 (?) ATL is still out there on sale. -
On 6/25/2021 at 4:29 PM, JZ-GreyDazeWorshipper said:
3 options
wait which one am I missing rn?
On 6/25/2021 at 5:23 AM, RogueSoul said:some of the mixes are lacking, especially in the bass department
as martinez mentioned before, it would be insane to expect a proper mix listening on a stereo device. I know that there are Surround settings for some devices, but in fact they can't simulate that very well. IIRC you have a subwoofer in a Surround system, which would give you the expected bass stuff (I believe there is a single track/channel for that, which you can barely hear on headphones, cause it gets pushed away by channels with "higher" (more headphone-ish) frequencies).
On 6/26/2021 at 9:04 PM, Coizu said:Every other form/mix is just an afterthought, created with whatever was available.
depends on how they did it. e.g. Brad had always envisioned a huge wall of sound, which is why there are sometimes layers of four guitars, which you could now get on four individual tracks, which you can't on stereo. but I agree on that concerning stuff like sweeping from left to right or adding reverb and stuff. that's just not their business, that goes even further than a remaster would go.
On 6/27/2021 at 1:06 AM, Robrobbsen said:Reanimation 5.1 seemed to be little more than a fun gimmick since it never caught on with the later albums
yeah but Reanimation was all about the ambience and aura in the first place too, and 5.1 really pays off if I think, I wish I had a surround system
On 6/27/2021 at 1:06 AM, Robrobbsen said:ATS or LT would sure been interesting but it seems like it wasn´t worth the trouble
I fucking need this. But ONLY if Mike and Brad supervise it. Especially ATS
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On 6/21/2021 at 10:19 PM, RayGun4200 said:
what is the shortened version of Rock and Roll part 2 from Atlantic Records Fall 2004 sampler?
probably just what it says. without Rahzel and DJ Q-Bert - if you cut that from the final version the song ticks in at 4:18, if you leave out some breaks here and there you can most definitely cut it down to 3:54, which suggest this being in a demo phase, which then again is pretty unlikely 'cause the album came out later the same year
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1 hour ago, martinez said:
Most people who will listen to the album at dolby atmos will use just stereo headphones, so if they would say that this sound awesome, then they will actually don't know what they talkin bout.
yeah but as for Powerless (which was the first one I listened to on Stereo), each individual track sounds stupid enough. I can't imagine a Surround System would add much to that
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On 6/17/2021 at 11:19 AM, Robrobbsen said:
Is there some way to split the layers like with reanimation?🤔
I think we're all just trying to get a better look inside WY, POA, CFTI and APFMH, right?
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On 6/11/2021 at 9:44 AM, EgorN said:
YABEAT is the breakdown beat from "Blue" (need to slow down by 50%)
nice find! it's the breakdown before the end
Also this made me finally realize where I knew PNNYAHHH sound from - it's in Blue too after the first chorus
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5 hours ago, FLAME-XIII said:
they worthy of a full-length film
I found the BPM to And One, She Couldn't (Demo), Dialate (Xero Demo), Reading My Eyes (Xero Demo), Pictureboard (Demo), & Stick N Move (Demo).
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the Xero demo is 133.133, not 133; the HT Demo is slightly faster than the Xero demo
both Forgotten Demo and Rhinestone Xero Demo are at 108.108, not 110
Will you please stop posting false information now?