stl_999 Posted June 27, 2010 Share Posted June 27, 2010 OK, so my friend uses Limewire to get music on his iPod, and sometimes if I like the songs he gets, he will give them to me too. This is how i first got into Linkin Park a couple years ago. One of the songs he gave me was Points of Authority. After a while, I noticed that the version he gave me sounded different than most versions I heard. I searched the internet a little and found that he had gotten some sort of remix from Limewire. He doesn't realize this because he doesn't like Linkin Park as much as I now do, so as far as he knows he has the normal song. I know it isn't the Reanimation version, and I think it might be called Vertical Limit (???) after looking up some lyrics. It is mostly the same as the normal version, but Mike's part is different, it goes: Forfeit the game Stop the talk show Product of what You're taught to know Forfeit the game 'Cause tomarrow When its all done You reap what you sow So my question is, where did this song come from, and when was it released? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ChuckCheese Posted June 27, 2010 Share Posted June 27, 2010 That would be one of the early demos of Points of Authority. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GraDoN Posted June 27, 2010 Share Posted June 27, 2010 stop the talk show?! for real? lol never knew it said that, mike must have been watching Opera while writing this. It's the demo of the album version, there are a few floating around. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stl_999 Posted June 27, 2010 Author Share Posted June 27, 2010 (edited) Yeah I was wondering if it was a demo.... Thanks. stop the talk show?! for real? lol never knew it said that, mike must have been watching Opera while writing this. It's the demo of the album version, there are a few floating around. At least that was what the lyrics site said, I'm not for sure on the lyrics. Edited June 27, 2010 by stl_999 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ashwhisker Posted June 27, 2010 Share Posted June 27, 2010 (edited) The demo with the "stop the talk show" lyrics was available for download from the old Hybrid Theory website. And "Vertical Limit" is not the real name, it's name is just "Points of Authority". Edited June 27, 2010 by Ash Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
1996_LP Posted June 28, 2010 Share Posted June 28, 2010 wow can you beleive it, when i got into LP 6 years ago I managed to hear the demo version first before the proper album version. Weird huh? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hahninator Posted June 28, 2010 Share Posted June 28, 2010 I need to call in Astat for a full explanation of the entire Points Of Authority demo situation, lol. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gorast Posted June 28, 2010 Share Posted June 28, 2010 I need to call in Astat for a full explanation of the entire Points Of Authority demo situation, lol. Aren't there just two demos (the 8-track/9-track version and the "stop the talk show" version)? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ashwhisker Posted June 28, 2010 Share Posted June 28, 2010 Aren't there just two demos (the 8-track/9-track version and the "stop the talk show" version)? Points & Authority (Hybrid Theory - "Demos" 9-Track) Points And Authority (8-Track Demo) Points Of Authority (Hybridtheory.com) The version from HT.com uses the "stop the talk show" lyrics in the intro and bridge but is otherwise very similar to the album version. Both the 8-Track and 9-Track versions use Mike's "Forfeit the game" lyrics as the chorus as opposed to the album version and the HT.com version which use Chester. The 8-Track and 9-Track demos sound pretty much identical, but appear to be mixed differently, though any differences are VERY subtle. For all practical purposes, these two tracks are the same. And there is a POA on the Linkin Park Sampler cassette, it could be a pre-final mix but it's really hard to say when you take into account that it was ripped from a tape. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gorast Posted June 29, 2010 Share Posted June 29, 2010 So essentially you restated my post but put more words in. ._. Didn't know about the sampler version, though. that's new. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ashwhisker Posted June 29, 2010 Share Posted June 29, 2010 So essentially you restated my post but put more words in. ._. I'm so sorry for trying to help the OP. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sebbe94 Posted July 1, 2010 Share Posted July 1, 2010 Points & Authority (Hybrid Theory - "Demos" 9-Track) Points And Authority (8-Track Demo) Points Of Authority (Hybridtheory.com) The version from HT.com uses the "stop the talk show" lyrics in the intro and bridge but is otherwise very similar to the album version. Both the 8-Track and 9-Track versions use Mike's "Forfeit the game" lyrics as the chorus as opposed to the album version and the HT.com version which use Chester. The 8-Track and 9-Track demos sound pretty much identical, but appear to be mixed differently, though any differences are VERY subtle. For all practical purposes, these two tracks are the same. And there is a POA on the Linkin Park Sampler cassette, it could be a pre-final mix but it's really hard to say when you take into account that it was ripped from a tape. Which version is the "Sink or Swim" version then? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ashwhisker Posted July 1, 2010 Share Posted July 1, 2010 Which version is the "Sink or Swim" version then? I assume you mean the version with the "it's time to sink or swim" bridge? Without listening to any of them I believe that would be the 8-track and 9-track. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sebbe94 Posted July 2, 2010 Share Posted July 2, 2010 I assume you mean the version with the "it's time to sink or swim" bridge? Without listening to any of them I believe that would be the 8-track and 9-track. Yeah that's the one I meant. Thanks for clearing it up. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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