'From Zero' Album Discussion

[DCrecelius]

might be recency bias, but this is my discography ranking right now. None of the albums are bad though.

1. Meteora
2. A Thousand Suns
3. Hybrid Theory 
4. Minutes to Midnight
5. From Zero
6. LIVING THINGS
7. One More Light
8. The Hunting Party

[juancpin]

HI!!

 

I found amazing that for almost everybody it is an incredible album, but almost everyone ranks the song differently. Some put the heavier stuff first and say, what a banger of an album, and put down Stained or OEO. Then the next bunch put GTG, Stained, and Cut the bridge above, and this tells me one thing: This album, and this band, makes GOOD MUSIC. Period. Rock, Punk, Stadium Pop, Experimental, Metal, Everything, and everything right.

 

For me, is quite difficult to rank the songs, because it happens to me that from one moment to another I have a different earworm, say Cut the Bridge, say Casualty, say whichever you name.

 

Being such a short record, I put it like a long song that I have on repeat once and once and once again.

[JZLP-Benningstrong]

On 11/19/2024 at 12:30 AM, Chesterisinmyblood90 said:

Opinions have changed again! Cut The Bridge is now one of my favorites! Maybe my second favorite. I really think The Emptiness Machine might be the best song

 

Dude I need a post of you talking about what you think about Emily in detail 🤘 

 

In my eyes she's like a female version of Chester... Her vocal power, versatility, the way she acts, she's funny, outgoing, etc

 

She kinda looks like Chester a bit and has that sense of rock fashion that Chester loved.

 

 

 

Edited Wednesday at 01:06 PM by JZLP-Benningstrong

[JZLP-Benningstrong]

14 hours ago, DCrecelius said:

might be recency bias, but this is my discography ranking right now. None of the albums are bad though.

1. Meteora
2. A Thousand Suns
3. Hybrid Theory 
4. Minutes to Midnight
5. From Zero
6. LIVING THINGS
7. One More Light
8. The Hunting Party

 

1 Hybrid Theory

2 Meteora

3 Minutes 2 Midnight 

4 A Thousand Suns

5 From Zero

6 Living Things

7 THP

8 OMS

 

As album FZ it's way stronger than 6,7 and 8 but there are some songs on LT and THP that are way superior than anything on FZ.

[Qwerty18]

It's hard to say after barely 6 days, but one thing I'm feeling mildly confident about is that FZ is more cohesive and consistent as a record than the last 3 ones. 

[Hybrid1988]

19 hours ago, DCrecelius said:

might be recency bias, but this is my discography ranking right now. None of the albums are bad though.

1. Meteora
2. A Thousand Suns
3. Hybrid Theory 
4. Minutes to Midnight
5. From Zero
6. LIVING THINGS
7. One More Light
8. The Hunting Party

 

Hybrid Theory (nostalgia will ensure this never gets knocked off it's throne)
A Thousand Suns

Meteora

Minutes to Midnight

The Hunting Party

From Zero

Living Things

One More Light

[Yucker]

It's hard to do a personal rank but here I go...

 

1.- Meteora

2.- Hybrid Theory

3.- A Thousand Suns

4.- From Zero

5.- Minutes to Midnight

6.- Living Things

7.- The Hunting Party

8.- One More Light

 

It's based more on finding myself listening songs from an specific album rather than an album quality by itself. 

[-Kubo]

Let's go...

 

1. A Thousand Suns

2. From Zero

3. Meteora

4. LIVING THINGS

5. Hybrid Theory

6. The Hunting Party

7. One More Light

8. Minutes to Midnight

[bloodbath]

A Thousand Suns

Meteora

Hybrid Theory

Minutes to Midnight

From Zero

The Hunting Party

Living Things

One More Light

[Soeffingnaive92]

Let’s try 

HT 

ATS 

Meteora 

LT = FZ 

OML

MTM

THP 

 

Extremely conflicted about MTM, if it was an EP with the first 6 songs + NMS it’d probably be #4 or #3 ex aequo but the second half is something I hardly ever find myself coming back to. 
FZ position could change (maybe a little lower) but I really like it, short and energetic full of bangers 

Edited Thursday at 11:21 PM by Soeffingnaive92

[MMM]

Hybrid Theory

LIVING THINGS

Meteora

A Thousand Suns

From Zero

Minutes To Midnight

The Hunting Party

One More Light

 

Edited yesterday at 01:08 AM by MMM

[-Kubo]

1 hour ago, Soeffingnaive92 said:

Let’s try 

HT 

ATS 

Meteora 

LT = FZ 

OML

MTM

THP 

 

Extremely conflicted about MTM, if it was an EP with the first 6 songs + NMS it’d probably be #4 or #3 ex aequo but the second half is something I hardly ever find myself coming back to. 
FZ position could change (maybe a little lower) but I really like it, short and energetic full of bangers 

 

MTM tracklist just don't works. Like, Leave out all the rest, Shadow of the day, Valentine's day, In Between, In pieces, TLTGYA... 6 freaking ballads/mellow/sleep songs. An unbalanced album that not fit with LP's energy (7 songs, if you add HHH). Also we have demos/B-sides thats better than half of the album.

OML is full pop, but has more energy than MTM, at least.

[javignacio]

Let's give it a try:

 

First, a comment for each album

Hybrid Theory: where it all started, it's either HT or Meteora. No other option for me.

Meteora. It's another masterpiece 

MTM: I love the balance between soft songs and not-so-soft songs. Few skip songs. In Pieces being of the best for me

ATS: Waiting for the end is one of the best LP songs, but I don't like many songs that much (robot boy, BITS, blackout, WAK) and so many interludes

Living Things: Not a fan of the album, but some songs I love. But many (many) songs to skip (STB, LGM, Victimized, UIB). But I love LITE, IMR and Powerless, and have a soft spot for I'll be gone

THP: I love many of the songs in the album, but I think some songs are just mid (UIG, GATS, War, Rebellion). But FM, ALITS, and Wasteland are really really good

One More Light: I don't know if I like it more or less that LT, but it has many mid songs, but the only one I don't like it's Heavy. Sharp Edges and Nobody Can Save Me are one of my favorites.

FZ: It should be up soon (5th at least), I really like the album and with some time could be very high in my list. For now, besides TEM i don't have a song that gets me like the other albums, but it will. So far is a no skip album (which for me it's really rare)

 

Now the rank:

(1-2 very interchangeable)

1. HT

2. Meteora

3. MTM

(4-5-6 depending on the mood)

4. ATS

5. THP

6. FZ

7. OML

8. LT

 

I think FZ could be 5th or even 4th, but doing a ranking is really hard, because some albums have masterpieces but the album itself is not that great, and that happens me with THP for example.

 

 

[RYG4R]

1. A THOUSAND SUNS

2 ONE MORE LIGHT

3 HYBRID THEORY

4 FROM ZERO

5 METEORA

6 MINUTES TO MIDNIGHT

7 LIVING THINGS

8 THE HUNTING PARTY

[Rockter]

40 minutes ago, Cbismyhero said:

I’m not sure you want me to. I do not like Emily as a person at all. Religion in general has always bothered me (I’ve been an Atheist since I was 11), and the Scientology cult are full of nutjobs. I feel sorry for her, that she brainwashed as a child, born into it, look at her whole backstory, it was just posted not too long ago. Scientology was all she knew as a kid and teen. It’s just a whole thing. Whether she is still a member or not, it gives me the ick. I also don’t think she has the passion that Chester had at all. She can sing and scream for sure, and sometimes replicate Chester in a female version, but Chester sang with his soul and his heart, anything he sang almost, you could just FEEL it. And people underestimate how much Chester contribute to the band on the first three albums. He took the backseat for ATS onwards but he was heavily involved in writing lyrics and melodies for the first three albums and even sometimes musical ideas (SIB intro, SOTD part that Brad needed, etc.). Mike said straight up that the lyrics on the Hybrid Theory album were part of how he got to know Chester, through the stories he shared with Mike about his early life and the pain he went through from being abused and bullied and feeling alone, etc. and addiction too. All that stuff. People forget that yes Mike wrote the music (with Brad mostly too) but Chester did write the words with Mike for him to sing, it was authentic on the first two albums for sure, that stuff was raw coming from Chester’s heart. Mike put his past stories and stuff too in the lyrics but Mike said he helped Chester translate his life experiences and stuff into words. That’s essentially why Chester said he was crying recording BTH, because the way him and Mike wrote the lyrics, it was so personal. Mike writing MUSIC doesn’t always mean THE LYRICS. Chester did write lyrics and melodies a lot. On MTM for example there are like 1,000 interviews where he talks about writing lyrics for almost every song besides like HHH and In Between. He was invested. My point is, Chester is hard to replicate. Yes, you can do the screaming and singing but he brought so much more than just his voice to the table. It was also the way he commanded the stage, his personality, etc.

 

That’s why I was more excited to just see the band touring again as opposed to a whole new album. Emily is fine for giving people a chance to see LP again all over the world, she does a good job. I’m way more into the live stuff. Don’t care about new music and all that. Hell, I don’t even listen to LP music made past MTM anyways. 

Holy shit was one of these two a Geki impostor loool

[Soeffingnaive92]

6 hours ago, -Kubo said:

 

MTM tracklist just don't works. Like, Leave out all the rest, Shadow of the day, Valentine's day, In Between, In pieces, TLTGYA... 6 freaking ballads/mellow/sleep songs. An unbalanced album that not fit with LP's energy (7 songs, if you add HHH). Also we have demos/B-sides thats better than half of the album.

OML is full pop, but has more energy than MTM, at least.

Totally agree, plus OML is shorter and more packed even tho soft, you have energetic songs like GG, TTM and SFN 

[martinez]

And here comes a very unpopular opinion (spot 9) when you take into account all top 10 in this thread

 

So, I need more listening to post my top 10 (actually top 9), the songs are occupied by a different 1-5 spots depends on a day, there are some my very favorite ones and i can easily say the album is better than OML just because of amount of songs I like on this one. But!... What I'm actually pretty sure right now is the spot 9 which nothing can help to that anymore, I mean I have listening to full album a lot of times and I started to skip some tracks because I already have an opinion on some of them. The spot nine is reserved for what I think one of the worst songs the band ever made. Which are:

 

9. Casualty and of course Heavy Is The Crown

[Soeffingnaive92]

6 hours ago, martinez said:

And here comes a very unpopular opinion (spot 9) when you take into account all top 10 in this thread

 

So, I need more listening to post my top 10 (actually top 9), the songs are occupied by a different 1-5 spots depends on a day, there are some my very favorite ones and i can easily say the album is better than OML just because of amount of songs I like on this one. But!... What I'm actually pretty sure right now is the spot 9 which nothing can help to that anymore, I mean I have listening to full album a lot of times and I started to skip some tracks because I already have an opinion on some of them. The spot nine is reserved for what I think one of the worst songs the band ever made. Which are:

 

9. Casualty and of course Heavy Is The Crown

I am not as negative as you but I can kinda see why you think like this, both songs are lesser versions of something the band already did (Faint with GU scream and War/Victimzed). I don’t think these 2 songs will age gracefully, but I do enjoy them today 

[Qwerty18]

Honestly, I don't think War / Victimized / Casualty are that similar, beyond them being short, punk-inspired, and screamy.

 

Victimized is a weird folk-hip-hop-electronic-hardcore mix, War is straight-up an old-school hardcore punk song, and  Casualty is a modern hardcore punk-industrial jam. They're different enough tracks to stand on their own merits, in my opinion.

 

Otherwise, every pop-rock LP anthem would be alternative versions of each other (WID, ND, BID, IBG, TTM, BS, PTB, etc..) ^^

[Soeffingnaive92]

26 minutes ago, Qwerty18 said:

Honestly, I don't think War / Victimized / Casualty are that similar, beyond them being short, punk-inspired, and screamy.

 

Victimized is a weird folk-hip-hop-electronic-hardcore mix, War is straight-up an old-school hardcore punk song, and  Casualty is a modern hardcore punk-industrial jam. They're different enough tracks to stand on their own merits, in my opinion.

 

Otherwise, every pop-rock LP anthem would be alternative versions of each other (WID, ND, BID, IBG, TTM, BS, PTB, etc..) ^^

I honestly feel and hear elements of Victimized, War and KTTK in Casualty

[Qwerty18]

There are elements in common for sure, but, in my opinion, not enough to say Casualty is a lesser version of War or Victimized. I've read it elsewhere too, but I don't really agree with that view. Casualty is based more on groove than pace, at least in the verse, and I feel the novelty of raspy Mike is being underestimated.

 

I understand that argument better with HITC and Faint, because those two are almost identical at many levels.

Edited 19 hours ago by Qwerty18

[Legend]

And mine, for the lulz.

 

1. Meteora 

2. Hybrid Theory

3. Minutes to Midnight

4. Living Things

5. A Thousand Suns

6. From Zero

7. The Hunting Party

8. ...

9. ...

10. ...

11. ...

12. ...

13. One More Light

[Qwerty18]

Alrighty, let's make one, and see one year later if I still feel this way  This may be controversial but 

 

1. Hybrid Theory

2. A Thousand Suns

3. From Zero

4. Minutes to Midnight

5. Meteora

6. The Hunting Party

7. Living Things

8. One More Light

 

• One More Light was never my thing, and Living Things has kind of an identity crisis going on, so From Zero automatically beats those 2 for me.
• THP is a stronger effort, but has too many flaws for its own good, so From Zero tops that one too.
• Meteora is tricky, it's a classic, but I feel its production has aged a bit poorly, and eventually I believe FZ songwriting to be stronger.
• MTM was the trickiest. There are many legendary moments on it, but on the other hand, the tracklist has always been a mess, and the record is maybe a bit too loaded with mid-tempo ballads
• HT and ATS stay untouched. FZ momentarily lands at 3!

[martinez]

5 hours ago, Soeffingnaive92 said:

I am not as negative as you but I can kinda see why you think like this, both songs are lesser versions of something the band already did (Faint with GU scream and War/Victimzed). I don’t think these 2 songs will age gracefully, but I do enjoy them today 

 

I sit down to this album and songs without comparing them to any old songs or the two you mentioned. Maybe I should, I don't know (I'm a bit ignorant here), for me and especially in HITC there is nothing that much interesting that I would continue to listen to that song, when it was released in September I was listening it maybe like 20 times only and I very quick get bored with it.

 

My next post containing 1-8 spots will be positive!

[Soeffingnaive92]

4 hours ago, martinez said:

 

I sit down to this album and songs without comparing them to any old songs or the two you mentioned. Maybe I should, I don't know (I'm a bit ignorant here), for me and especially in HITC there is nothing that much interesting that I would continue to listen to that song, when it was released in September I was listening it maybe like 20 times only and I very quick get bored with it.

 

My next post containing 1-8 spots will be positive!

Curious to see what you got