hellomoto170 Posted October 25 Share Posted October 25 Maybe it’s just a reality of modern day music that they feel they have to put out one of these super cliched, simplistic lyrical songs each album (and make it a single at that) - I don’t like it, but as long as the whole album isn’t like this then I guess it’s a price worth paying. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LionHart Posted October 25 Share Posted October 25 Absolutely growing on me more and loving Emily's delivery... "and I'm not ever righhhttt" hits home on a personal level. I still think it's a bit lyrically short in the bridge but I really love it. Broadly getting these three songs (the emptiness machine is 10/10 for me) has been an emotional ride thinking back to the launch event whenever I think about mike saying "it's good to see you again" I get caught in my throat. I love this band and genuinely it's just so good seeing them happy and making music again. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
juancpin Posted October 25 Share Posted October 25 Yeeeeeaaahhh from that 4 minutes ago, LionHart said: "it's good to see you again" to here it has been a rollercoaster of emotions. And I'm enjoy every bit of it. OEO is resonating more and more with me, and now I have on LOATR or WID level. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LPLC24 Posted October 25 Share Posted October 25 (edited) 13 hours ago, Justin said: Then go listen to the albums by them that fit that description. Everyone in the band aside from Emily and Colin is pushing 50. If they aren’t inspired to make nu-metal and they try forcing it, it would be apparent in the finished product. I don't know what age has got to do with it. People always say that, even Chester said that himself on twitter. You don't need to be 23 to be making nu-metal instrumentals. Maybe they mean that they don't want to write angry music? Well the lyrics from One More Light were about negative emotions. A song like Heavy is no different to something off Hybrid Theory lyrics/emotion wise. Edited October 25 by LPLC24 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
juancpin Posted October 25 Share Posted October 25 I don't see the fuss here. Linkin Park is a band capable of writing By Myself and then My December or Given Up and then Blackbirds. They do what they like (and like what they do), and they do it wisely. (And, as all of us are already aware (alas, I hope so), they don't owe us anything. They create what they need to create, and in the way they need it.) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KeysToTheLinkinPark Posted October 25 Share Posted October 25 (edited) Wait guys, didn't they just released an full on modern Nu-Metal banger with Heavy Is The Crown? We shouldn't have the illusion that they write 11 Nu-Metal songs and put them on one record, right? We should be happy to get an full on old school song here and there. And tbh, I find it a bit boring getting 11 HITCs. In other words, Joe first bew up Chester in the SIB video, now he killed Emily. Edited October 25 by KeysToTheLinkinPark Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rd1994 Posted October 25 Share Posted October 25 I love it. Also the audio version has a similar "interlude" like All for Nothing on THP. "Put your screaming pants on" as an intro to Casualty. So this track being (what I gather to be) 2 of the heavier songs on the record is definitely interesting. So I almost see it as a "break from all the rage" in a way 2 hours ago, KeysToTheLinkinPark said: In other words, Joe first bew up Chester in the SIB video, now he killed Emily. Chester wasn't blown up, his bed was set on fire but he was not at the time. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thor3 Posted October 25 Share Posted October 25 3 hours ago, KeysToTheLinkinPark said: Wait guys, didn't they just released an full on modern Nu-Metal banger with Heavy Is The Crown? We shouldn't have the illusion that they write 11 Nu-Metal songs and put them on one record, right? We should be happy to get an full on old school song here and there. And tbh, I find it a bit boring getting 11 HITCs. In other words, Joe first bew up Chester in the SIB video, now he killed Emily. fuckin exactly!! that's why after 17 years they're still one of my favorite bands, because you'll never know what to expect each album. and that's what i love about them. love listening to Hybrid Theory and then ATS after. the difference in those album is what makes the band enjoyable to listen to. (plus, nu metal isn't even all that to begin with don't know why people want it so much) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
juancpin Posted October 25 Share Posted October 25 3 minutes ago, thor3 said: (plus, nu metal isn't even all that to begin with don't know why people want it so much) 'Cause once you got a theory of how the thing works Everybody wants the next thing to be just like the first Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
unksoldier2000 Posted October 25 Share Posted October 25 (edited) it really shocks me on how some people are comparing OEO to Crawling/Breaking the Habit/Leave Out All The Rest.... like, how can people think on those unique tracks while listening to this? no that it is a bad track tho, but could be way better. Edited October 25 by unksoldier2000 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bloodbath Posted October 25 Share Posted October 25 Really liked the song, has this MTM of being a pop song with personality (yes, I'm looking at you OML), and the video is GREAT. Hahn is a master of telling you a story in less than three minutes with a plot twist. 2 hours ago, unksoldier2000 said: it really shocks me on how some people are comparing OEO to Crawling/Breaking the Habit/Leave Out All The Rest.... like, how can people think on those unique tracks while listening to this? no that it is a bad track tho, but could be way better. You know what's the problem? That they already have so many great songs in that vein that it's quite hard to compose a song with the quality level of those, so it doesn't matter how far you try, it's always going to be "one more song", I don't know if I'm explaining myself correctly... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
juancpin Posted October 25 Share Posted October 25 1 minute ago, bloodbath said: You know what's the problem? That they already have so many great songs in that vein that it's quite hard to compose a song with the quality level of those, so it doesn't matter how far you try, it's always going to be "one more song", I don't know if I'm explaining myself correctly... Indeed, but (and I'm gonna make from now on a LOT of Beatles comparisons because is another band I know EVERYTHING about) is like pretending to make an album with every song identical to A day in the life, on and on and on. Does not make much sense. Artists create lots and lost of different things. Some will stick more with you, some others not. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bloodbath Posted October 25 Share Posted October 25 1 minute ago, juancpin said: Indeed, but (and I'm gonna make from now on a LOT of Beatles comparisons because is another band I know EVERYTHING about) is like pretending to make an album with every song identical to A day in the life, on and on and on. Does not make much sense. Artists create lots and lost of different things. Some will stick more with you, some others not. I have tons of black metal bands if I want 40 minutes of songs being exactly the same, with LP I expect and appreciate variety. It's better to fail doing something different than doing the same old stuff all over again. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
juancpin Posted October 25 Share Posted October 25 2 hours ago, bloodbath said: It's better to fail doing something different than doing the same old stuff all over again. Super agree. I love diversity. With it, I have an LP song for any mood, and moment. I need to say this. I'm enjoying more than I can admit that I'm being brought down to tears by every youtuber being themselves brought down to tears when reacting to the twist of the video. Also I notice, some people notice the twist way earlier than others. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
max91 Posted October 25 Share Posted October 25 53 minutes ago, juancpin said: I need to say this. I'm enjoying more than I can admit that I'm being brought down to tears by every youtuber being themselves brought down to tears when reacting to the twist of the video. Also I notice, some people notice the twist way earlier than others. I was like mid video seeing her like being desperate when the meds try to save the other girl, and no one tried to separate her from there, and i started thinking: "this is gonna be something like sixth sense on where she's the one who's dead?" Also im so sure that i saw something like this on another music video. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
juancpin Posted October 25 Share Posted October 25 8 minutes ago, max91 said: Also im so sure that i saw something like this on another music video. The scientist by Coldplay is another mind blowing car crash. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Soeffingnaive92 Posted October 26 Share Posted October 26 There’s this new weird wave of Emily fanboys/fan girls that attack you if you say you’re not a big fan of OEO, that’s weird lol. Anyway it’s growing a bit on me but I like every Jon Green produced song with Chester more than this one. Emily on a song like this gives me a Ellie Goulding/Kelly Clarkson vibe Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Justin Posted October 26 Share Posted October 26 On 10/25/2024 at 4:10 AM, LPLC24 said: I don't know what age has got to do with it. People always say that, even Chester said that himself on twitter. You don't need to be 23 to be making nu-metal I mean I was just going by Chester's own comments during the ATS era when he said "I don't want to scream anymore. I think all of us at that point were going, ‘If I keep doing this, this is just what I’m going to keep doing for the rest of my life.’” Then in 2012 he said "I'm a 36 year old man. I'm not an angst-ridden teenager anymore." So I'm not saying there's a cut-off age where an artist must stop making nu-metal. I'm saying that Chester himself alluded to not wanting to make that type of music anymore as he got older. On 10/25/2024 at 4:10 AM, LPLC24 said: Well the lyrics from One More Light were about negative emotions. Not entirely. That album is about real feelings that the band members were having in their lives at that time, some of which were negative, but it's not like the album is a downer as a whole. There are some positive songs on that album that convey a message of hope. On 10/25/2024 at 4:10 AM, LPLC24 said: A song like Heavy is no different to something off Hybrid Theory lyrics/emotion wise. Yes, but they didn't want to deliver it in the style of Hybrid Theory. That's partly why they did a nu-metal version as a joke and then said "There's your Hybrid Theory, now shut the fuck up" before having to edit that comment out due to so many "fans" feeling personally insulted. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
juancpin Posted October 26 Share Posted October 26 1 hour ago, Justin said: "There's your Hybrid Theory, now shut the fuck up" Truth be told, I always enjoyed the messages of hope from Iridescent, Not Alone or this OEO. Angst is fun, hope is forever. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
max91 Posted October 26 Share Posted October 26 3 hours ago, Soeffingnaive92 said: There’s this new weird wave of Emily fanboys/fan girls that attack you if you say you’re not a big fan of OEO, that’s weird lol. Anyway it’s growing a bit on me but I like every Jon Green produced song with Chester more than this one. Emily on a song like this gives me a Ellie Goulding/Kelly Clarkson vibe Yeah, i think its the one produced by Jon that i liked the most. And i loved NCSM Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Soeffingnaive92 Posted October 26 Share Posted October 26 1 hour ago, max91 said: Yeah, i think its the one produced by Jon that i liked the most. And i loved NCSM I don’t know, Emily does a really good job but I think this one needed a male vocalist to not sound like a pop number from the 2010s. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Justin Posted October 26 Share Posted October 26 8 minutes ago, Soeffingnaive92 said: I don’t know, Emily does a really good job but I think this one needed a male vocalist to not sound like a pop number from the 2010s. Yeah but the flipside of that logic is that the band still wants to be the band. What I mean is that if Chester were here, this would've been a song that Chester sang solo without Mike, just like Emily sung it solo without Mike. I don't think the band is going to say "You sound great Emily, but unfortunately you're not a man so either you need to scream or Mike is going to need a vocal part in this song at some point". Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Soeffingnaive92 Posted October 27 Share Posted October 27 (edited) 14 hours ago, Justin said: Yeah but the flipside of that logic is that the band still wants to be the band. What I mean is that if Chester were here, this would've been a song that Chester sang solo without Mike, just like Emily sung it solo without Mike. I don't think the band is going to say "You sound great Emily, but unfortunately you're not a man so either you need to scream or Mike is going to need a vocal part in this song at some point". Yeah that right, it’s a inescapable logic. but can’t help but imagine someone like Gavin Rossdale on a song like this. Something like this Edited October 27 by Soeffingnaive92 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wh1thy0u Posted October 27 Share Posted October 27 I think I listened to the song about twenty times when it came out. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
juancpin Posted October 27 Share Posted October 27 Man, being honest, now I’m like TEM 9/10 HITC 9/10 OEO 9/10 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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