I more than want it to come out winter '09 than i think it will. I hope it comes out winter'09 or autumn. As long as it's during my next school year before Christmas. I don't think they should release the album during the summer. Although, ultimately, since Warner bros. has an input into the release date, it takes it to a new level. I don't think they should rush the album. Sure, they're notorious for taking time on their follow-up albums, it doesn't mean they should rush this one so that fans are not kept waiting long but release something they and we the fans are not quite ready to be proud of a year later. Creativity knows no boundary such as time. I want them to release something that I'll be proud off to play so loud in the dorms that it will annoy my roomies. I trust LP to be ready when they're ready. I'm counting on their obsessive perfectionist habit to kick in and produce a kick ass album whenever. I have no problem with Mike being the producer. He does one hell of a job. Although, i liked Don Gilmore. They should bring him back to help. Anyway, those are my two cents on the issue.