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Also, this will be released on June too with some LP music.
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Added to the first post: standard black vinyl, tracklists for all 3 vinyls and link where you can pre-order them.
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Any chances they can go with "Linkin Park with 'New singer name'" as name? Just like "Stone Temple Pilots with Chester".
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No THP tracks on on the album but they included a THP sticker on the Japanese version of the CD.
https://i.imgur.com/hpHBRLb.jpeg
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14 minutes ago, mrfox said:
FF and Qwerty are on Papercuts vinyl right? what's the point to release another vinyl?
FF and QWERTY both are singles of the Papercuts album.
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Added to main post the info about the FF/QWERTY LPU Vinyl.
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The video is awesome!
Could they release it on iTunes?
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The 3-track digital single of QWERTY is coming to all digital platforms this Friday. The single contains the live version of the song that the band recorded at the Chiba Marine Stadium in Tokyo, the instrumental version and studio version of the song.
Tracklist:
01.QWERTY (Live In Tokyo, 2006) (3:54)
02.QWERTY (Instrumental) (3:21)
03.QWERTY (3:21)
Source: Apple Music
EDIT: A special vinyl edition of the single will be released for LPU members:
Friendly Fire / QWERTY 10" Glass Clear Vinyl LPU Exclusive (cat. 054391275127)
LPU Store Description:
This 10" limited edition Glass Clear vinyl record is limited to 1000 copies and features the Papercuts tracks "Friendly Fire" and "QWERTY." Exclusive to LP Underground members. Pressed in the USA. Price: $19.98Track 1 / Side 1Friendly FireTrack 2 / Side 2QWERTYThe Pre-Order for it is available under this link. -
QWERTY release week!
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I finally ended comparing the songs versions from Papercuts CD with original album versions and single versions. Here are the results:
01.Crawling (03:29)
- album version02.Faint (02:42)
- album version03.Numb/Encore [Explicit] (03:26)
- album version, but: the 2004 is louder, the volume of this one was a bit decreased
- additionally it has +1 second of silence at the end
- 2024 quality, maybe a small differences in mastering/EQ04.Papercut (03:04)
- album version, despite not having 1 second of silence at the start like the original version from the 2000 CD has
- very small portion of the end was cut and added to beginning of BTH to create transition05.Breaking The Habit (03:14)
- contains small transition from Papercut
- album version, it missing 2 seconds with transition to FTI at the end, because it was fade out06.In The End (03:35)
- album version
- -1 second of silence at the end07.Bleed It Out [Explicit] (02:44)
- album version08.Somewhere I Belong (03:34)
- album version09.Waiting For The End (03:51)
- album version, with fade out at the end just before the blackout transition
- 2012 master with different effects on vocals and guitar loop at the beginning (check the updated post here)10.Castle Of Glass (03:24)
- album version with just almost 1 second of silence cut at the end11.One More Light (04:11)
- album version, the last 3 seconds of it were cut and added to BID to create transition12.Burn It Down (03:49)
- album version, almost 1 second a the end was cut from it
- contains small transition from OML13.What I’ve Done (03:25)
- album version
- it has an issue with intro fade in, the same like WID in some digital versions of MTM14.QWERTY (03:21)
- it's 2008 version, which means no transition from Annoncement Service Public and extra 2 seconds of silence at the end
- on the Papercuts CD the 2 seconds of silence at the end were cut
- quality upgrade15.One Step Closer (02:35)
- album version16.New Divide (04:29)
- the same as 2009 version, 2 seconds of silence at the end were cut
- 2024 quality, maybe a small differences in mastering/EQ17.Leave Out All the Rest (03:20)
- can't really say if it's single version or edited album version, I guess it's edited album version
- it contains 1 second of silence more at the end comparing to the single version18.Lost (03:16)
- album version, not 2002 mix, 2 seconds less of silence at the end
- 1 second of ending of it was cut and added to Numb to create transition19.Numb (03:06)
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So 2012 version of WFTE has:
- different effects on vocals and guitar loop at the beginning
2012 Iridescent:
- a bit different effects on Mike's vocals at the beginning (2012 version vs 2010 version)
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38 minutes ago, gorast said:
while Kraus's original master was left intact for the digital release, which would be why they're credited separately.
Well, that's not true. You see they are using a Hi-Res 24-bit as a source quality for the vinyls, the same source usually goes for digital platforms that sells/stream music in Hi-Res quality. And HTEP disc is one of those included on HT20 that is available on HDtracks in Hi-Res quality, there are very noticeable differences in mastering and both both gentleman's are mentioned in the credits for songs from HTEP. So yeah at least they are releasing the same files digitally.
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Here are the credits of the HTEP vinyl from HT20:
credits says: Mastered by Pat Kraus
Mastered for a vinyl by Brian Gardner
Can someone explain to me what's the difference between the vinyl and CD mastering. Is it mean (based on the credits) that they took the original HTEP copy mastered by Pat Kraus to Brian and he use it to make the mastering for a vinyl, is that right? Because if Brian worked on the complete unmastered version then what's the point to include the Pat's credits if only one person mastered the whole thing?
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Since we know it now, let's call this alternate version of WFTE the 2012 version.
On 4/15/2024 at 4:31 PM, LPLStaff said:How in the world did your ear catch that the first time? Diving into it, there are definitely different effects on the vocals. The "got" at the end is the most evident of this.
I was comparing the Papercuts version with the album versions from the 2010 CD I bought because I wanted to check if there is no transition to Blackout at all or it can be still noticeable and then I have noticed that the "got" at the end sounds different so I decided to compare and check the whole track.
6 hours ago, LPLStaff said:How many releases was this wrong WFTE included on since 2012? Was ATS repressed on vinyl (or anything else) since then? All of the vinyls/CDs made with the new Warner Records name instead of Warner Bros... is it on those? And what digital releases is it on?
So WFTE has been replaced just about everywhere with an incorrect version? This is a pretty significant discovery martinez, nice work. It's like the real WFTE is being erased...
All vinyls of ATS were released in 2010, there is no any single one released in the later years, based on the info from lpcatalog, so I'm assuming there's no vinyl edition containg 2012 version of WFTE.
If it's about the digital version, there is a standard version available on spotify here and bonus version here, containing the 2010 originals, both are also available on qobuz and some other digital stores. I think currently iTunes and Apple Music are the only two not having the 2010 versions anymore.
Also, I compared the WFTE music videos, the one that I bought from iTunes few years ago. The SD quality and full HD (that contains audio in Apple Digital Master quality) both has the original 2010 version of the song but the new 4K upgrade which is on YouTube and in some other digital platforms contains the 2012 version.
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Confirmed: this version of WFTE was delivered to digital stores in 2012 that became Mastered for iTunes/ 24-bit versions in some digital stores.
So it's the same time of when the wrong versions of SOTD, NRL was delivered.
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So Waiting For The End on "Papercuts" CD contains no transition to Blackout which is happening for the first time, since the WFTE Promo CD single or the official CD single released in stores had the album version of the song.
Besides the lacks transition to Blackout, the song also contains different effects used on vocals. A different delay effect on the Papercuts version can be heard when you compare below two fragments:
WFTE-album version
WFTE-papercuts/2012 album version
Another example with even more noticable difference is at the end when Chester sings the last word "got!":WFTE-album version
WFTE-papercuts/2012 album version
When you compare those fragments you will be able to hear those differences. Also, there might be something else which I'm not sure about it. I exctracted the acapella from both versions and I want you to compare and let know what you think about it. Here are two fragments of the acapella:WFTE (acapella)-album version
WFTE (acapella)-papercuts/2012 album versionWhen Chester sings "Flying at the speed of light" - it's about the last word "light" it sounds a bit different and the question is, is it sounds different because of the different effects on the vocals
or it's different vocal take?EDIT: sometimes try to listen to those fragments in the different order, it can help to notice better the differences.
EDIT2: the guitar loop at the beginning also has different effects:
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OK. Thanks!
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4 minutes ago, rd1994 said:
Lost just has no silence at the end. The Meteora 20 version has 3 seconds of silence at the end. Its not different apart from that. Also I checked What I've Done seems to be the album version since listening loud made me hear that last note from the Interlude at the end of Shadow of the Day.
Thanks for the info! OML has 4:12 not 4:15 is it also because of few seconds of silence removed at the end?
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2 minutes ago, rd1994 said:
Thank You!
So Lost was also edited sinc it has 3:16, not 3:19. The ending of it was probably shortened. I wold like to compare it and the rest of the tracks.
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6 minutes ago, rd1994 said:
Things get weirder and weirder. From multiple users I hear that their CD has all the album versions and I just checked my CD copy and it has the single versions on it. I checked LOATR and the single version ends with Chester solo singing "I can't be who you are" ...just like my version on Papercuts.
Can anybody post their catalogue numbers?Can you post the length of all tracks from the CD?
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4 hours ago, minuteforce said:
I got confused in the case of "What I've Done" because, on Spotify, there's still the fade-in at the start but it's a fade-in with the keyboard tail instead of without
The same issues are in some editions of MTM WID is fade in, while SOTD has fade out at the end.
13 minutes ago, rd1994 said:Sorry me again, I just checked my vinyl copy and guess what: All single versions are in place. Also I noticed the centre label says Friendly Fire has a runtime of 4:24. Probably an error, unless someone can confirm its actually a different version
That's what i thought. Is there anywhere in the credits an info like "mastered for a vinyl" for example in the credits for LOATR? Also, is Lost, BTH and OML have different lengths? Those are what they should have it:
Breaking The Habit (03:16)
One More Light (04:15)
Lost (03:19)
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1 hour ago, minuteforce said:
Funnily enough, he main editions of "Meteora" on digital platforms currently wrongly use the single of "Faint" (an error which was avoided on the anniversary edition of "Meteora") so the transitions are already messed up.
I recently checked out the main and the bonus editions on spotify and some other platforms and the label already fixed that.
1 hour ago, minuteforce said:And, at least where I am, some of the singles, including "What I've Done", are on Spotify
Yes on spotify and some other platforms there are 3 different versions of the WID single each one with different tracklist but since 2012 none of them currently have the single version of the song.
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36 minutes ago, demoncarnotaur said:
It's been ages since I listened to the non-live version of QWERTY. Is there anything new with the mix?
No new mix/mastering, just quality upgrade.
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1 hour ago, LPLStaff said:
At bare minimum, it'd be nice to have the Faint intro fixed to the full intro on streaming for this.
BUT if that messes up Meteora transitions then don't do it.
It's too late for that and if they will do that to the current already released album it will effect some of the past releases.
1 hour ago, LPLStaff said:It may be harder to have multiple song versions on digital streaming than we think and have them all count for the same play counts. Are there examples of this in music? Like if they put the single version of What I've Done up? It isn't on Spotify.
That's because the single version of WID was included to all Minutes To Midnight pre-orders and later was associated with all already released versions of MTM probably because they didn't have the album version of it ready around the time when the single was out. So the digital single and album had the same single version of the song and had the same identifier (the ISRC code), so later in 2012 when they were fixing all the MTM albums by providing to them the album version of the song it was also affecting all the versions of the digital single.
But in general, they can put out the single version without messing the versions in the album all they have to do is use a different ISRC code for the single version and that's all. I would love to have a single version of the song back again in the WID single. It would require them to re-release the single, but that doesn't seem a problem for them. They re-released WFTE as 3 track in 2020. New Divide, Heavy were re-relased in 2023 on spotify with different tracklistings.
Digital Releases
in Everything Linkin Park
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Linkin Park
Albums & EPs*
Papercuts (Singles Collection 2000-2023) // {20tr, 093624846031} link
Meteora (20th Anniversary Edition) [Full Album] link - streaming only
Hybrid Theory (Full Album) link - streaming only
Singles*
QWERTY (Live In Tokyo, 2006) // {3tr, 093624842033} link
Friendly Fire: A Capella + Instrumental // {2tr, 054391277640} link
Music Videos (+Live Videos, Visuals)*
QWERTY (Live In Tokyo, 2006) link - streaming only
QWERTY (Visualizer Video) // {A10302B0009786080S} link
Leave Out All The Rest (HD UPGRADE) // {A10302B0010008784W} link
Waiting For The End (HD UPGRADE) // {A10302B0010008779Q} link
Castle Of Glass (HD UPGRADE) // {A10302B00100087803} link
Burn It Down (HD UPGRADE) // {A10302B00100087811} link
What I've Done (4K UPGRADE) link - streaming only
New Divide (HD UPGRADE) // {A10302B0010008778S} link
Numb/Encore (Live) [HD UPGRADE] [Explicit] link - streaming only
Friendly Fire (Warner Official Chinese Subtitles Version) link - streaming only
Friendly Fire // {A10302B0009786079E} link
Ringtones* (links works only on apple's mobile devices)
Burn It Down // {Small portion of the first verse plus chorus} link
Castle Of Glass // {Small portion of the first verse plus chorus} link
Friendly Fire // {first 30 seconds of the song with fade out at the end} link
Others*
Friendly Fire // {1tr, 054391309587} link
Compilations
VA - In The Game Zone // {FF, 5059460289208} link - streaming only
VA - 20s Music - Greatest Hits // {Lost, 5059460288065} link - streaming only
VA - Éxitos de los 20 en Inglés // {Lost, 5059460287129} link - streaming only
VA - I'ts New & Hot // {FF, 5059460275881} link - streaming only
VA - Best of New Pop // {FF, 5059460276604} link - streaming only
VA - Top Songs // {FF, 5059460276000} link - streaming only
VA - What’s New? // {FF, 5059460275997} link - streaming only
VA - Rock & Chill // {FF, 5059460275874} link - streaming only
VA - Thunder - Rock Hits // {FF, ITE, WID, 5059460275966} link - streaming only
VA - Thunder - Deutsche Charts - 2024 // {FF, 5059460277229} link - streaming only
VA - Good Ones // {FF, 5059460276390} link - streaming only
VA - Fighting Myself New Rock Bangers // {FM, 5059460194335} link - streaming only
VA - Rock Boost // {FM, 5059460248373} link - streaming only
VA - Metal Now // {FM, MTV, 5059460219779} link - streaming only
VA - rock songs 2023: summer edition // {FM, MTV, Lost, ITE, 5059460198302} link - streaming only
VA - 100 from the 20's - Rock // {Lost, FM, 5059460243828} link - streaming only
VA - Mood 4 Rock // {Lost, 5059460239029} link - streaming only
VA - Drones: New Alternative // {FM, 5059460196360} link - streaming only
VA - Alternative // {MTV} link - streaming only
VA - Eyes Wide Shut: New Rock // {Lost, FM, 5059460201415} link - streaming only
VA - Viral Rock Hits // {Lost, ITE, 5059460187313} link - streaming only
VA - Some Rock Songs // {Lost, 5059460192263} link - streaming only
VA - Twenties Rock // {Lost, 5059460217133} link - streaming only
VA - alt top songs // {Lost, FM, 5059460196377} link - streaming only
VA - Nu Metal Hits // {Lost, DS} link - streaming only
VA - One Hour Of Rock // {Lost, 5059460215665} link - streaming only
VA - Internet Bangers // {Lost} link - streaming only
VA - Para Papá // {Lost, 5059460203549} link - streaming only
VA - One Hour Of Metal // {Lost, 5059460215672} link - streaming only
VA - Forever Rock // {TTM} link - streaming only
VA - Rock Energy Booster // {ITE, Numb} link - streaming only
VA - 00s Finest Rock // {ITE} link - streaming only
VA - Capodanno ROCK 2024 // {WID, Numb} link - streaming only
VA - RUNNING - ROCK HITS FOR A BETTER PACE // {BIO, WID, ITE} link - streaming only
VA - Rock Festival Season // {WID, Numb, OSC} link - streaming only
VA - Nu Metal Headbangers // {WID} link - streaming only
VA - Stadium Rock Hits 2 // {WID, ITE, Numb} link - streaming only
VA - 100 from the 00's - Rock // {Numb, BM, ETR} link - streaming only
VA - All Time Rock Anthems // {Numb, ITE, WID} link - streaming only
VA - Solid Rock // {ITE} link - streaming only
VA - 00's Flashback // {ITE} link - streaming only
VA - Rock Tearjerkers // {Numb} link - streaming only
VA - Rock Nostalgia // {ITE, Numb, SIB} link - streaming only
VA - Pure Nu Metal // {Papercut, Faint} link - streaming only
VA - As Melhores do Rock Internacional e Nacional // {ITE, Numb, SIB} link - streaming only
VA - Best of 2000 // {ITE, Numb} link - streaming only
VA - Angry Feelings // {OSC, NL, Numb} link - streaming only
VA - Rádio Rock // {ITE, Numb} link - streaming only
VA - Best of 2000 // {ITE, Numb, WID} link - streaming only
VA - Top 50 - Rock Vibes // {Numb, WID, Lost} link - streaming only
VA - Some Rock Hits // {ITE} link - streaming only
VA - Happy Father's Day Rock Throwback Edition // {Numb, ITE. WID} link - streaming only
VA - 00s Hits Essentials // {ITE} link - streaming only
VA - Trabajar con Rockcito // {ITE, FM} link - streaming only
VA - PRE PARTITA // {ITE} link - streaming only
VA - El rock vive // {Numb, ITE, WID} link - streaming only
VA - Top Pop Rock Hits // {ITE, Numb} link - streaming only
VA - NU METAL Masterpieces // {ITE, WID, Numb} link - streaming only
VA - The 00s // {ITE} link - streaming only
VA - Melhores Hits Internacionais de Todos os Tempos // {ITE, Numb} link - streaming only
VA - California Rocks // {Runaway} link - streaming only
VA - mental health: look out for yourself // {OML} link - streaming only
VA - Modern Hard Rock // {Papercut} link - streaming only
VA - Rock Reel // {Numb} link - streaming only
VA - 21st Century Hip Hop // {Numb/Encore} link - streaming only
VA - Boulevard of Broken Dreams - Alternative Ballads // {LOATR} link - streaming only
VA - Indie Nights // {MD} link - streaming only
VA - Massive Alternative Hits // {Numb} link - streaming only
VA - Pop 2K // {ITE} link - streaming only
VA - Stranded 10's Rock Bangers // {TC} link - streaming only
VA - Definitive 00's // {ITE} link - streaming only
VA - Twenty Tens Rock // {BID} link - streaming only
VA - Musica Motivazionale // {ITE, SIB} link - streaming only
VA - 100 from the 10's - Rock // {Heave, LITE} link - streaming only
VA - Home of Music Rock // {ITE, Faint} link - streaming only
VA - Throwback Hits 2023 // {ITE} link - streaming only
VA - 00s Metal // {Numb, OSC} link - streaming only
VA - Rock Hymnen // {Numb, ITE} link - streaming only
VA - ROCK HITS - THE BEST OF ALL TIME // {Numb, ITE, WID} link - streaming only
VA - Still Into You - Rock Me Up ! // {ITE} link - streaming only
VA - Trouble's Coming - Rebellious Rock Hits // {WID} link - streaming only
VA - Timeless Rock Hits // {SIB} link - streaming only
VA - Rock for Dancing // {Victimized remix} link - streaming only
VA - Cabeza rock // {ITE} link - streaming only
VA - Weihnachten Rock // {MD, Faint} link - streaming only
VA - I'm Having Trouble Trying to Sleep // {WID, WFTE} link - streaming only
VA - Noughties Rock // {ITE} link - streaming only
VA - Skate Park // {Numb, 5059460098060} link - streaming only
VA - Bravo Hits, Vol. 121 // {Lost, 00600753981405} link
VA - Bravo The Hits 2023 // {Lost, 00600753987810} link
Mike Shinoda
Albums & EPs*
Already Over / In My Head (Endel Workout Soundscape) // {15tr, 093624844952} link
Already Over / In My Head (Endel Gaming Soundscape) // {13tr, 093624844976} link
Already Over Sessions EP // {8tr, 093624845034} link
Singles*
Already Over (Live In Berlin) // {2tr, 054391335852} link - streaming only
Already Over (Live In Berlin) [feat. DAMONA] // {1tr, 054391335869} link
Already Over (Live In London) // {2tr, 054391335876} link - streaming only
Already Over (Live In London) // {1tr, 054391335883} link
Others
Books
It Starts with One: The Legend and Legacy of Linkin Park (eBook, Kindle Edition) link
It Starts with One: The Legend and Legacy of Linkin Park (Audiobook) [Amazon] // {Length: 9h} link
It Starts with One: The Legend and Legacy of Linkin Park (Audiobook) [Apple] link
It Starts with One: The Legend and Legacy of Linkin Park (eBook) // {Pages: 304, 9780306832529} link
*also added to site
Here are some updates of the site that were made since December 2023 to now:
- added HDtracks link to notes as another store that has LT with booklet.
- fixed the lenght of some tracks, also small correction of the name.
- it was re-released on April 7 2023 in digital stores in Japan.
- added mp3 icon, lossless icon, mov icon and Qobuz link to notes.
- added lossless icon, mov icon and Qobuz link to notes.
- added digital booklet, mp3 icon, lossless icon, mov icon and Qobuz link to notes, because it is/was available in Japan on Qobuz.
- added wmv icon and link to 7digital to notes.
- added lossless icon and Qobuz link to notes, because it is/was available in Japan on Qobuz.
- added alternate name for it "Minutes To Midnight (Int'L Exclusive Non-Video Version)" which I found in the Microsoft store via web archive.
- added Qobuz link to notes, because it is/was available in Japan on Qobuz.
- added lossless icon, mov icon and Qobuz link to notes, because it is/was available in both lossless audio/video in Japan on Qobuz.
- the release date was updated to May 07, 2007, I found the correct release date via web archive in one of the past digital stores.
- decided to bring back the original mastering credits from 2012 to all 2012 remastered albums. Now they have Justin Smith as a masterer.
All of those bonus tracks were registered a lot later than the standard editions. It means that the idea of adding the bonus tracks to some releases has to come after they did remastering for ATS, Meteora, HT, MTM. You can see that all of those bonus tracks were registered at the same time, the credits of POA (Crystal Method Remix) mentions Brian Gardner as mastering credits, which probably means that all above tracks were mastered in the same mastering session with Brian Gardner, so i decided to add Brian to mastering credits to all above.
So that will be all. As always I did tons of little changes but I think I mentioned all the bigger changes. If I will notice that I forgot about something I will add it to this post. As for the Qobuz in Japan country - all pages with releases redirect me to qobuz.com/jp-ja/closed I'm not sure if maybe that's because Qobuz detects that I'm not in Japan and
redirect the page with the album. If someone from Japan can confirm that, let me know.
Also I have a question regarding the LPTV season which was available on iTunes. The season was available on iTunes as TV Show in the TV Shows section. I was thinking about the idea to create the TV Shows section on the site and move all LPTVs there. I can also add some others seasons. What do you think? Also, is "TV Shows" name would also work for other seasons that was not available on iTunes?
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Some other things that I noticed:
Deezer: few days ago when I have checked it, there was a complete mess, I have seen releases from all countries like TC NoBrain remix, Powerless single, 1-track Iridescent, MTM the iTunes version, MTM version that was available for pre-order bundle in 2007 and some of them are still available the MTM (iTunes) and this MTM version which base on the cover and barcodes on Deezer both should be censored version but they contains the explicit version of the tracks, the HT bonus version with interactive booklet which was not available anywhere since years and suddenly appeared on Deezer? I'm suppossed to make this bonus edition with booklet as available for streaming only on Deezer but I'm holding with adding any of those since you can see it's totally mess on this streaming service I think some of those releases appeared on Deezer by
mistake and they will soon be removed.
Amazon Music: I have seen that one of the Live In Texas album with LIT cover has 12 songs but each of them were the ones from the Meteora 20 Edition and the transitions were out of place. I don't see this version anymore, don't remember in which country it was.
mora.jp: since like a month this store started to sell music in standard CD quality 16-bit lossless. This includes releases:
https://mora.jp/package/43000008/093624994329_L/
https://mora.jp/package/43000008/093624928966_L/
https://mora.jp/package/43000008/093624449362_L/
Qobuz: might be the best currently store if you want to buy any videos in lossless version. This is based on two videos I purchased, but I would consider this store as one of potentionally selling videos in the lossless (uncompressed) version.
Transitions in the Meteora album in both standard and bonus edition were fixed. SOTD and WID in some MTM editions still has some transitions problems, SOTD has fade out WID has fade in. Also, I have noticed that the 2012 masters versions of the album starting to appear in other streaming services/stores.