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There are probably a ton more 2000 or even older dates we have no clue about. The 2000 page is still a little messed up, tour schedules, especially venue names are different on several other sites. Hard to get straight info, tour dates sometimes seem to change a lot. So feel free to post corrects or info about the year 2000, we would appreciate it.

Okay, If i see anything I'll remember to post.

It's been a while since i looked through my old files and pictures anyway.

Yeah, that's July.

I remember those pictures, I save a couple of those years and years and years ago. I didn't even know that date was missing.

Should have been more specific. Warner's not getting any respect from Viacom just as from LP fans.

Guess it could go the other way. I dont like either company and i can't really take sides when they butt heads.

Damn. That's it. Something must have "clicked" in Warner's mind recently. Youtube videos removed, fan sites being shut down. What's next? LPTimes? LPLive? That's it for me. If something's getting started, you can count me in for sure.

It's.... Viacom?

Man, not even other conglomerates get respect

I think whitout documents, say "Mike said it's okay" doesn't have so much value in court.

You got something better than a handshake deal though. What Mike Shinoda said is in print. January 2007. I can still remember when he said it.

I don't think he would say that unless that were something outside of Warner's reach, I could be wrong though.

I believe by "no copyright infringement" he means no copyright infringement from Warner Brothers, who definitely have jurisdiction over all their recorded releases. Otherwise the copyright goes to Linkin Park, theoretically. The only defense, and I am no lawyer, I can think of is to say Warner is not the copyright holders of these performances and cannot sue him. Linkin Park must be the ones to file the lawsuit. I think that's kinda taunting the bull here, but it might reduce the number of songs he might have to pay for, and I doubt LP would attempt to sue...

I don't think the LP.com archives go far enough back, but I recall distinctly in December 2002 a post by Mike Shinoda on the news page, right after LPU 1.0 ended, saying that if fans cannot get a hold of the HTEP, then they can download it. His post was followed by a track listing of the CD. This is one reason why I don't think LP would be inclined to sue.

Where it might get foggy, imo, is those internal Warner demos. They might or might not count. I don't know what was hosted on LPI but those demos might have been there. And of course, I cannot tell the exact details of LP and Warner's contract, and so I cannot tell how much power Warner had over LP's works. Or whether or not LP have any copyright power over their songs.

I think it's woth considering. Then again, i wrote it.

You guys are acting like Warner is just making this up for the fuck of it. They violated some copyright law and will go in front of a judge. If there's no case then they won't win BUT if the guy is guilty he'll be found guilty and punished. Warner is a BUSINESS. You guys always forget that. They're not out here to make friends, they're here to make money and they do a damn good job of it.

In copyright lawsuits, you are guilty until proven innocent. That isn't what it says on paper but it how it typically goes down in court.

Youtube's blog statement has an existence failure.

Source says user entered, so i default to "Pretty much not true".