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    Pointillism (1998 Xero/Mike Shinoda Demo)

    in Everything Linkin Park

    Posted

    2 minutes ago, NJPLP said:

    It's near the end of the video.

     

    Jeff Blue talked about “NBA INSIDE STUFF – BG CUES" on June 4th, 2021 and when he was questioned about what “NBA INSIDE STUFF – BG CUES" actually was, he replied with this: “ Umm, so BG stands for BACKGROUND, so a lot of times when, uhh. So, a publisher’s job is to, umm, exploit, and exploit means get money, from the, the artist’s catalog, so when we, uh, sended out, we were trying to get, you know we got “The Crow”, um, we know too many got “The Crow”, so that song appeared in there, but also, you also have the backing tracks, which a lot of times when you’re listening to, uh, a tv show or whatever, um, you hear the background. And without the vocals, so that’s what “BG CUES” is for. And then the “NBA” was probably was placed in, uh, a promo for, you know, “NBA”, um, you know, basketball. So that’s, that’s what that is and so, yeah.” He also then confirmed that it’s an instrumental of a Xero demo.

     

    Thats cool new info to me, havent really kept track of his interviews. That actually makes total sense, Im pretty sure its a known song's instrumental. The really problem is finding the episodes here. Someone would have to be willing to let us check that out, plus its been really long ago, Im not even sure who would have access to those archive rn besides the companies themselves.

    Pointillism (1998 Xero/Mike Shinoda Demo)

    in Everything Linkin Park

    Posted

    5 minutes ago, NJPLP said:

    Here's the Wikipedia page on NBA Inside Stuff, though Wikipedia isn't always trusthworthy - https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/NBA_Inside_Stuff

    It states that the running time of each episode from 1990-2002 is 21-22 minutes and that it was on NBC around that time. We would probably have to look for NBA Inside Stuff episodes dating from 1996 to at least late 1998.


    I'm not sure if you know of Xero Hunting, its a team looking for LP rare old stuff, this is a song we have def talked about a lot over the years. The tricky part is that NBA Inside Stuff aired weekly so we'd have to sift through a ton of episodes. This had to be in 1998 or 1999, but I don't know of any way of finding all of those episodes, there is not archive online. Also, there's always the possibility that it could have been one of the Xero tracks we already have, that was just used in a video montage on the show. Its unluckily that its Rhinestone, since Rhinestone did exist in BMI, but it has to be a 98 studio quality demo, so after the Zomba deal. The issue with this is finding the episodes, since there is no online archive and the episodes are a lot to look for em one by one, the only chance would be contacting people that could have access to those episodes from back then and convince em to share them with us which they probably dont even have the authority to, since its NBA's property I assume.

    Pointillism (1998 Xero/Mike Shinoda Demo)

    in Everything Linkin Park

    Posted

    On 5/11/2021 at 8:11 PM, TheVeryLastDinosaur said:

    A random thought I had. Seeing as Jeff said this was something Mike was creating for a soundtrack, do y'all suppose it might have a connection to the mysterious NBA Inside Stuff -BG Cues song? 

    Honestly i doubt it. I dont think NBA Inside Stuff background music counts as soundtrack in any way.

    I think the NBA Inside Stuff - BG Cues song is probably one of the songs we already have, maybe Rhinestone.

    More Stuff I Found

    in Everything Linkin Park

    Posted · Edited by SerioDrew

    Make sure to check Linkipedia, Im sure many of the info i mentioned exist in Linkinpedia too, and probably info for more of the stuff you posted that I didnt think of from the top of my head. By the way I believe your post doesnt violate any rules As long as you dont provide download links for any material officially released you are safe. Most of these are from youtube anyway so. Imo you should include the channel names etc, I doubt anyone would harass people, LP community aint like that. Its hard for us to evaluate or even understand what you have there, without listening ourselves.

    More Stuff I Found

    in Everything Linkin Park

    Posted

    Just from the top of my head here are some more info:

    -The Xero Faith instrumental is a fanmade one by a friend of him, he didnt intend to pass it as a real one. However he doesnt have any demo "See" in his channel. 

    -The Xero Pictureboard is legit, it leaked this summer.

    -The Xero Rhinestone Audition Instrumental is also legit, however its a lazy rip TJ Demonte did. He has re-ripped his audition tape but he hasnt publish it and idk if he will.

    - The Don't Stay/99 Problems demo is just fanmade. Al-B did that one and another LP-JZ remix back in the day 99 Problems/One Ster Closer, which got very popular. The dj is claiming it sparked the idea for Collision Course, which has never been confirmed, however there is a WBR internal cd that contains his remix, however its not an official remix.

    - What Are You Worth is legit

    - Good Goodbye demo is legit

    - About Looking For An Answer I remember Mike back in the day said he had made 2 versions, one with a more LP-ish instrumental and one more stripped like the Hollywood Bowl one and he wasnt sure which one to put out. However neither of those version have leaked. Idk if you just found em like that lol

    - All The Mall Soundtrack demos you mentioned are legit and if I remember correctly there is another demo but I dont remember the name rn.

    - Papercut vs David Banner (Remix) is legit an official remix. Its from a Mixtape of that mashed up rock and rap artists by DJ Vlad & Roc Raida. Mike was the "host" of the Mixtape, he did some interludes/skits and stuff for them, so yeah this remix is official and approved by Mike for sure.

    - I doubt any of the other remixes you mentioned is legit.

    "Deftest" (Xero Song)

    in Newswire

    Posted

    No chance Deftest is Reborn. Deftest is one of the very first Xero songs (pre 4 track tape) and also it was a Mark experiment. There is no chance the band continued working on Deftest long enough for Chester to have sung on it too. I can tell you right now that, with what we have, Deftest cant be Reborn. But it would be cool to clear up whats up with Reborn if someone could ask Mike on Twitch about the song. 

    Xero Hunting Vol.2: The Search for "Rhinestone [The Crow Version]"

    in Newswire

    Posted · Edited by SerioDrew

    15 hours ago, lpliveusername said:

    Now we gotta look for a copy of the Pooch Pound demo. lol

    Lol there probably is just one of it 😂 So lets get it 😂

     

     

    4 hours ago, LuscoTRP said:

    A new Xero demo? In this topic i read for a new discovered, " Rapology 11 - Artwork", any1 have a link? ^^

    Its not a song, just the artwork cover of the cd, it was done by Joe and its very cool. Mike did the artworks for Rapology 12,13,14,16 too. 

    Linkin Park Announces "Hybrid Theory 20" Release

    in Newswire

    Posted

    17 minutes ago, lpliveusername said:

    I just wanna put it out there that the Zomba sampler version is the one I used to get the length of Rhinestone before the 20th anniversary release was announced. The audio was recognized from part of that version. So it's very likely that's the version on Forgotten Demos. Would also explain why Mike didn't want it online when we found out about the Zomba sampler.


    Yeah i remember Mike not wanting the Crow version out. Im pretty sure thats the version we are getting in HT20 too, im just hoping its something slightly different and not the EXACT same. 

    Linkin Park Announces "Hybrid Theory 20" Release

    in Newswire

    Posted

    2 hours ago, rd1994 said:

    I just think its odd that for example at the start Chester is like "What are you playing" and then suddenly Chester remembers that he also did vocals for that song? I mean...they do orget stuff sometimes (remember that one time where Mike thought Wake was on Meteora?) it just struck me as odd.


    They get stuff mixed up all the time, dates, songs, facts, everything. Its normal to not instantly remember a DEMO u barely worked on (since it must have been mainly Xero). I doubt it was a joke and honestly it would be the best thing ever if either Could Have Been or Dialate is this song, it would put a closure to the whole Xero era as we know it. (There is also the NBA Inside song, but Im pretty sure its a song we already have.)

     

    9 minutes ago, rd1994 said:

    I'm pretty sure that they didn't include any version from the tap.e. Since the crow version is only version with Mark on vocals that could be considered its probably just the same. 99% sure on that.

     

    2 hours ago, 1996_LP said:

    I wonder if this Rhinestone is the Zomba music/Crow version that leaked this year?


    We dont know for sure its the ONLY version with Mark. But knowing how close the instrumental of The Crow Version is to the Hybrid Theory earliest demo, im pretty sure it was the last they recorded with Mark. Im pretty sure it will be the one we have but im really hoping its something slightly different. 

    Linkin Park Announces "Hybrid Theory 20" Release

    in Newswire

    Posted

    4 hours ago, bloodbath said:

    Anyone else wished for a HT EP CD version? Not very fan of vinyls out of place, really. 

    I know it was already released as  LPU 1.0 but... 

    Yeah id love to get HT EP cd as personally idc about vinyls since i cant play em. I was pretty bumped to release its not there. 
     

    4 hours ago, xeroboi said:

    We're getting stick and move with Chester 

    Stick N Move is was my fav LP track outside their albums, getting a Chester version might actually put it on my top 5 lp songs, even top 3.

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