20 Years of "The Rising Tied"

[martinez]

On November 22, 2005, exactly 20 years ago Mike's one of a kind album "The Rising Tied" was released. It is an iconic album that has everything that makes him great, and it is one of Mike's best projects.

What are your thoughts about the album, what is your favorite song or memory that you still remember after all those years? Let us know.

 

 

 

Tracklisting:

01.Introduction (00:43)

02.Remember The Name (feat. Styles Of Beyond) (03:50)

03.Right Now (feat. Black Thought & Styles Of Beyond) (04:14)

04.Petrified (03:40)

05.Feel Like Home (feat. Styles Of Beyond) (03:53)

06.Where'd You Go (feat. Holly Brook & Jonah Matranga) (03:51)

07.In Stereo (03:29)

08.Back Home (feat. Common & Styles Of Beyond) (03:44)

09.Cigarettes (03:40)

10.Believe Me (feat. Bobo & Styles Of Beyond) (03:42)

11.Get Me Gone (01:56)

12.High Road (feat. John Legend) (03:16)

13.Kenji (03:51)

14.Red To Black (feat. Kenna, Jonah Matranga & Styles Of Beyond) (03:11)

15.The Battle (feat. Celph Titled) (00:32)

16.Slip Out The Back (feat. Mr. Hahn) (03:56)

BONUS TRACKS:

19.Be Somebody (Lupe Fiasco, Holly Brook & Tak) (03:14)

20.There They Go (feat. Sixx John) (03:17)

21.The Hard Way (feat. Kenna) (03:52)

 

4 singles from the album was released. 11 songs total from the album were played live during the Fort Minor tour and in the later years during Mike's solo shows:

 

• Remember The Name (August 18, 2005 debut)
• There They Go (August 18, 2005 debut)
• Petrified (August 18, 2005 debut)
• In Stereo (October 29, 2005 debut)
• Where'd You Go (October 29, 2005 debut)
• Believe Me (October 29, 2005 debut)
• Feel Like Home (October 29, 2005 debut)
• Red To Black (October 29, 2005 debut)
• High Road (October 29, 2005 debut)
• Cigarettes (February 24, 2006 debut)
• Kenji (May 12, 2018 debut)

 

[RentEznor]

RTN was literally everywhere around 2005-06, the NBA Live 06 videogame was one of my favorites and I couldn't stop listening to it. And yes I was one of those that for years I didn't make the LP/FM connection, wasn't even aware of SOB being involved until a couple of years later.

 

I'm forever grateful for this record, I'm even more grateful for all the awesome and incredible B-Sides I discovered since then. Tools of the Trade is one of my favorite Mike related tracks.

 

Speaking of Mike, he forgot to post the celebration yesterday and he just did it a couple of moments ago lol

 

 

[bloodbath]

I discovered the album back in summer/late 2006 (can't remember the exact date). Besides the LP Underground 6, for me this was the closest we had to a third LP record. Great memories playing on repeat Slip Out the Back on my MP4 player while playing Need for Speed Undeground 2 & Most Wanted on my PS2. I don't like all the tracks, but for me it's the strongest LP related project. 

[JZLP-Benningstrong]

Yeah I also loved Slip it was more like a LP B side. 

 

I used to love it when it came out, I also felt like a gangsta kid just like Mike, his attitude was cool back in 05 but now that I look back it's extremely cringe lol and fake. 

 

TRT didn't age well I barely listen to it, the only tracks that I go back and listen are Kenji, RTN and Petrified. 

 

I freaking loved the Kenji/WFTE mashup so amazing listen to it now. 

 

I also didn't liked that SOB was on almost every song I feel like Mike needed more solo songs on his own albums. 

 

Just saw his Twitter post about this and it felt like he didnt really care the most concerning thing is the new mindset of not releasing anniversary boxsets because they are looking to the future only. 

 

Also it was very odd that they recently released a reissue out of nowhere for this album like 2 years ago, why he didn't do it now? 

 

2005 brings back a lot of cool memories and the FM were very interesting too, I always wanted to go to a show. 

[JZLP-Benningstrong]

There's an extended version of this track probably not many people know. 

 

 

[bloodbath]

45 minutes ago, JZLP-Benningstrong said:

Yeah I also loved Slip it was more like a LP B side. 

 

I used to love it when it came out, I also felt like a gangsta kid just like Mike, his attitude was cool back in 05 but now that I look back it's extremely cringe lol and fake. 

 

TRT didn't age well I barely listen to it, the only tracks that I go back and listen are Kenji, RTN and Petrified. 

 

I freaking loved the Kenji/WFTE mashup so amazing listen to it now. 

 

I also didn't liked that SOB was on almost every song I feel like Mike needed more solo songs on his own albums. 

 

Just saw his Twitter post about this and it felt like he didnt really care the most concerning thing is the new mindset of not releasing anniversary boxsets because they are looking to the future only. 

 

Also it was very odd that they recently released a reissue out of nowhere for this album like 2 years ago, why he didn't do it now? 

 

2005 brings back a lot of cool memories and the FM were very interesting too, I always wanted to go to a show. 

I always have the feeling that FM was his "fun" outlet, he didn't had to be so professional as with LP. I mean, Mike's on coke and drunk on certain shows, no way he would do that with Linkin Park. I still love the album, but I agree with you, it was a product from its age. About SOB, I understand why they're heavily feature, it was his project and decided to bring out his friends, like I said, the project was all about having a good time and not taking it very seriously. 

 

No wonder why we would never get a proper reissue, besides RTN, outside the LP fanbase barely anyone remembers the record. 

[Emily2025]

This is a great topic and great post.

 

It’s an amazing album. A very special album to Mike, being his first solo album and what not. Where’d You Go and RTN were massive back in the day and still get played. A lot of people that don’t even really know LP know those tracks. Petrified was also a dope track, anyone who has seen Mike perform it live knows this.
 

I will say that I wish he never had a falling out with S.O.B. and Demigodz because they really made a great unit with Mike. A lot of the best Fort Minor moments were when they were a unit. Really good technical shit from those guys that many didn’t realize at the time, the stuff they were doing was bananas back then. Apathy is a legendary rapper and Celph was great, too. Ryu and Tak were not quite as good as them but still great, they had great verses. It sucks that the 2015 comeback was without them because by that year we could have got some good shit. I liked Welcome but it wasn’t as good as the original stuff. Anyways it was a shame that Warner shelved Reseda Beach. I wish Tak didn’t take it the way he did because that’s what ended the whole friendship between the guys and Mike. Reseda Beach and S.O.B. in general were too underground for a major label, especially Warner. Everyone knows that real hip hop isn’t marketable in the mainstream. That’s why Jay-Z even told Mike ‘’this is underground hip hop with big sound’’ about The Rising Tied, that was actually a compliment to Mike. 
 

I wish Mike did a little 20th anniversary set for the album. A small box set or something. Not as big as the HT or Meteora ones. But with the songs that didn’t make the album and maybe a live show from 2005/2006, those live sets were amazing. Maybe a 2015 show too. I know he said he wanted to focus on the current times but you can still celebrate the past while embracing the future too, many artists do this. But yeah the live shows were really cool, especially the 2005/2006 ones because Mike had a full orchestra of people performing with him, Ryu and Tak. It was really cool. Beatdown was a good drummer for the sound too (RIP dude). 

 

I’d say the best songs from the album are Remember The Name, Right Now, In Stereo, Cigarettes and Kenji. Right Now is my favorite of all of those. The verses from everyone are great, especially Black Thought’s. Mike even said it’s probably his favorite from the album, too. 
 

We Major was amazing too, maybe even better than the album in some ways. A lot of the verses and guest features on that mixtape were legendary. 
 

I feel like a lot of LP fans don’t truly appreciate or understand hip hop. Because Mike was working with LEGENDARY people back then in the game. Ghostface, Black Thought, Common, Lupe Fiasco, John Legend, Juelz Santana, those guys were big names in hip hop. Also, having Jay-Z executive produce the album was insane. He didn’t do that for just anyone. Also I can’t believe Mike did a track with Lord Finesse, Rock and Roll Pt. 2 around that time with Chester on it too. Lord Finesse is legendary in hip hop. So really, 2004-2005 was really a big time for Mike.

Edited 16 hours ago by Emily2025

[Emily2025]

5 hours ago, JZLP-Benningstrong said:

There's an extended version of this track probably not many people know. 

 

 

The Battle was a good track. It’s different for a lot of LP fans because it’s really a underground hip hop thing, the battle rap stuff. But Celph Titled was a great rapper. He might be offensive to some LP fans but the stuff he was doing was actually really talented and good. Him and especially Apathy were always better than S.O.B. but Ryu and Tak were good, too, just not as good as them. Apathy has become really a legend as years went by. Btw I know The Battle wasn’t really from an actual live battle but still. That’s what I mean when I say that a lot of LP fans might not truly appreciate some of the FM stuff because it was really underground hip hop oriented, people that knew hip hop or grew up with it would get it. 
 

Anyone remember Tools Of The Trade? That shit was also legendary. Had Celph on it too. But Mike coming up with the beat like that, etc. was awesome. Cover and Duck was another awesome track. Spraypaint & Inkpens…. So good.

Edited 21 hours ago by Emily2025

[bloodbath]

I'm one of those fans who truly doesn't know much about underground hip hop, so thank you for the info, I didn't knew all that!

[Emily2025]

5 hours ago, bloodbath said:

I'm one of those fans who truly doesn't know much about underground hip hop, so thank you for the info, I didn't knew all that!

You’re welcome! The tracks with just Mike were good, but the guests that Mike had throughout it all, the names were huge. Plus like I said Jay-Z being an executive producer. Mike has worked with some huge names, huge legends in hip hop, the same way Chester has sang with the greats of rock and metal as well. I think though like I said, LP fans are more rock based naturally so they don’t know how cool it was for Mike to work with those people. The fact LP got Rakim on a track also is INSANE. Pusha T is another big name LP has worked with besides Jay-Z. LP doing We Made It with Busta Rhymes was also crazy, Busta is a true legend, so that was really special and is often forgotten about. What about Mike working with The Visionaries in ‘01? Underground but a big name back then. The X-Ecutioners too were big back then in the underground scene, Joe mentions this on the Drink Champs podcast from this year. Pharoah Monch from H! Vltg3 has also become a big name in hip hop, but he wasn’t that big at the time.
 

 

If you are interested, check out Apathy’s YouTube channel. He started doing podcasts and they are great. He talks about the FM tour in 2006, PR 07 (he toured with SOB the entire time), some funny stories and seems like he really appreciates Mike. Celph talked about it too. They were never SOB so it’s not like they had any reason to beef with Mike (not that SOB really did).

 

He mentions how when they toured with FM in 2006, they had an amazing bus. And on PR07 they had Ozzy’s bus from the 80’s and they had a crazy old guy named Pete who was racist but also crazy, he fell asleep at the wheel, he drove into a hospital, etc. It’s funny stories. Apathy goes into detail about many shows on PR07 like getting stopped at the Toronto show at the border and stuff. It’s epic. They broke down once on the Jersey turnpike, etc.

 

 Great episode

 

 

Apathy also mentions how they filmed the music video for his song The Winter while on tour with FM in the U.S. in February 2006. That’s why Mike was in the video, he says. Pretty cool. 

Edited 16 hours ago by Emily2025

[Cesar656]

That album was a great project for Mike, some absolute bangers came out of that (RTN is at Lose Yourself level of epicness, everybody knows that song). The only annoying thing for the album to me is SOB, they are pretty mediocre to me. The other collabs tho are huge

[AceWav]

It was really fun watching Mike promote this album on MTV and AOL when I was 9. I remember watching his behind the scenes on demand and his making of petrified, and Where’d You Go music videos. “Where’d You Go” is one of the most nostalgic songs and a stand out for me on the album. I rewatched the music videos a lot back then. I was under the assumption that Mike had quit LP around this time. I was barely using the internet at the time, so I was completely out of the loop as far as updates or news. I only got the music, and the visuals to accompany the music when they released it. From HT- MTM that remained the same, so it was always a mystery what was next or when. That made it a very special time for me to be a fan. There was something special discovering new LP or discovering Fort Minor stuff through those mediums like AOL on demand, a world premier on mtv, or a radio premier on the boom box or shower radio. Great underground hip-hop album that definitely helped define my taste in hip-hop music. 

[BartBart91]

3 hours ago, Emily2025 said:

You’re welcome! The tracks with just Mike were good, but the guests that Mike had throughout it all, the names were huge. Plus like I said Jay-Z being an executive producer. Mike has worked with some huge names, huge legends in hip hop, the same way Chester has sang with the greats of rock and metal as well. I think though like I said, LP fans are more rock based naturally so they don’t know how cool it was for Mike to work with those people. The fact LP got Rakim on a track also is INSANE. Pusha T is another big name LP has worked with besides Jay-Z. LP doing We Made It with Busta Rhymes was also crazy, Busta is a true legend, so that was really special and is often forgotten about. What about Mike working with The Visionaries in ‘01? Underground but a big name back then. The X-Ecutioners too were big back then in the underground scene, Joe mentions this on the Drink Champs podcast from this year. Pharoah Monch from H! Vltg3 has also become a big name in hip hop, but he wasn’t that big at the time.
 

 

If you are interested, check out Apathy’s YouTube channel. He started doing podcasts and they are great. He talks about the FM tour in 2006, PR 07 (he toured with SOB the entire time), some funny stories and seems like he really appreciates Mike. Celph talked about it too. They were never SOB so it’s not like they had any reason to beef with Mike (not that SOB really did).

 

He mentions how when they toured with FM in 2006, they had an amazing bus. And on PR07 they had Ozzy’s bus from the 80’s and they had a crazy old guy named Pete who was racist but also crazy, he fell asleep at the wheel, he drove into a hospital, etc. It’s funny stories. Apathy goes into detail about many shows on PR07 like getting stopped at the Toronto show at the border and stuff. It’s epic. They broke down once on the Jersey turnpike, etc.

 

 Great episode

 

 

Apathy also mentions how they filmed the music video for his song The Winter while on tour with FM in the U.S. in February 2006. That’s why Mike was in the video, he says. Pretty cool. 

 

The Rising Tied is truly brilliant, with many great songs, and Fort Minor Militia and the mixtape We Major are also very good.

 

Rakim and Pusha T may be big names, but I would have much preferred the songs without them. The way "Guilty All the Same" and "Good Goodbye" were performed live at LP concerts with Mike's rap is even better, especially Mike's rap part in "Guilty All the Same."

[Emily2025]

2 hours ago, BartBart91 said:

 

The Rising Tied is truly brilliant, with many great songs, and Fort Minor Militia and the mixtape We Major are also very good.

 

Rakim and Pusha T may be big names, but I would have much preferred the songs without them. The way "Guilty All the Same" and "Good Goodbye" were performed live at LP concerts with Mike's rap is even better, especially Mike's rap part in "Guilty All the Same."

I wasn’t saying those songs were amazing but the fact they got someone like Rakim as a feature is insane. People would kill for that feature. Of course the older stuff is better though, I don’t disagree there.

[BartBart91]

51 minutes ago, Emily2025 said:

I wasn’t saying those songs were amazing but the fact they got someone like Rakim as a feature is insane. People would kill for that feature. Of course the older stuff is better though, I don’t disagree there.

 

You can't possibly agree with me that the older stuff is better, because I never said that. I said that The Rising Tide is brilliant and the other two albums are also very good, but I never said anything about the older stuff being better.

[Emily2025]

45 minutes ago, BartBart91 said:

 

You can't possibly agree with me that the older stuff is better, because I never said that. I said that The Rising Tide is brilliant and the other two albums are also very good, but I never said anything about the older stuff being better.

I thought cuz you said The Rising Tied, We Major and the Militia tracks were all great. My bad. 
 

and then you said you would have rather not had Rakim or Pusha on their respective songs, even though Mike just rapped Rakim’s verse anyways. Sounds like you just want to fight or instigate haha. 

[LeonardoMF93]

The Rising Tied would have enough material for a 20th anniversary box set. But now, besides Mike’s lack of interest because he wants to promote Linkin Park’s new phase, I wonder if there’s any content we still don’t know about.

We got some Special Editions released in 2023, which seemed like a way to put out those B-sides before Linkin Park came back years later.

[Emily2025]

2 hours ago, LeonardoMF93 said:

The Rising Tied would have enough material for a 20th anniversary box set. But now, besides Mike’s lack of interest because he wants to promote Linkin Park’s new phase, I wonder if there’s any content we still don’t know about.

We got some Special Editions released in 2023, which seemed like a way to put out those B-sides before Linkin Park came back years later.

There would be enough for a box set, for sure, a smaller one like I said. Doesn’t need to be as massive as the Hybrid Theory and Meteora ones. 
 

CD 1: The album

CD 2: All the tracks released that weren’t on the album

CD3: Demos we never got of existing songs and others

CD4: LA 2015 show was recorded for iTunes audio, put that out

 

DVD 1: Making of The Rising Tied

DVD 2: Live shows 2005, 2006

DVD 3: Live show 2015

 

People say We Major stuff can’t be released cuz of samples, not true. How did Apathy put out Bloc Party? How did Celph put out SCOM, All Night and Cover And Duck? How did Mike put out tracks on vinyl, Marc Ecko’s game? Plus he could just pay to clear the samples if he wanted to anyways. 
 

Watch Their Mouth was a B-Side from the album that never came out in any form. Was on the tracklisting for the album that Mike and Jay-Z were reviewing as to what made the album. 
 

Mike said he made 50 songs for Fort Minor so there’s at least some stuff for sure.

Edited 5 hours ago by Emily2025