Jamie Bennington’s comment on Dead By Sunrise

[lpfan2843]

During the live Q & A that he did with Josh on YouTube, he was asked what do you think about Dead By Sunrise. He answered that he thought it was a little morbid in retrospect, kind of as a joke (he made several ‘’dead dad jokes’’ as he referred to them during the Q&A, but that isn’t the relevant part. He then said that he knew some of the creative differences that his Dad had with it, so he was kind of biased on it. What does he mean? Just that the label made it poppy and commercial and unlike the original demos like Ryan has said in later years? Or something more? He then called it a good pop-rock record and laughed when he said pop-rock so I’m guessing that is what he meant. Just thought it was interesting.

[Soeffingnaive92]

Yeah I think he intended that. Also, I really didn't like the "dead dad jokes" but it was probably his way to take it slightly lighter. I think he's a good guy

[Justin]

2 hours ago, Comfortinthepanic92 said:

Yeah I think he intended that. Also, I really didn't like the "dead dad jokes" but it was probably his way to take it slightly lighter. I think he's a good guy

 

Some people use humor to cope with awkward and/or painful subjects. He is a good person.

[Soeffingnaive92]

Absolutely agree, like Mike said on Hold it Together about the "awkward joke" 

[JZLP-Benningstrong]

After listening to the demos i don't think that they are actually that different to the final product. 

[Soeffingnaive92]

12 hours ago, JZlinkinparamore said:

After listening to the demos i don't think that they are actually that different to the final product. 

“Fire” and “My Suffering” are a lot darker and less radio friendly IMO. 

[LPLStaff]

The demos have a lot edgier/rock sound versus the extremely polished studio versions. Let Down and Walking in Circles are even better in the demo forms. Fire and My Suffering indeed are darker.

[Soeffingnaive92]

10 hours ago, LPLStaff said:

The demos have a lot edgier/rock sound versus the extremely polished studio versions. Let Down and Walking in Circles are even better in the demo forms. Fire and My Suffering indeed are darker.

That My Suffering demo is really dark and angry compared to those very formuliac verses. That “everybody’s gonna die” and the way he screams “my suffering” are a lot darker 

[Lebron]

Only one that I think sounded better off of that demo CD we got was Let Down because of the electronic part in the chorus being higher and the song not fading out by reporting the chorus line like on the album. All the others are better on the album, especially Into You, Walking In Circles and Give Me Your Name. My Suffering’s demo is cool with the verses but the chorus is way better sounding on the album version and the mix is terrible for all the demos anyways. Fire’s original version is really cool but I still love the album version a lot more. The Walking In Circles demo isn’t better at all to me. Out Of Ashes’s version improves on it 100%. Into You’s demo we got is just plain bad sounding. The thing is, there are probably several versions of all the songs, better mixes, different variations, etc. 

Edited March 27, 2021 by Lebron

[Chesterisinmyblood90]

Jaime is insane. Nobody should listen to anything that he says. Although, I do feel somewhat bad for him, but still. He reminds me of myself when I used to go on crazy conspiracy theory rants and stuff. I think he is just really angry but doesn’t know how to cope with it, same with me when I was in my 20’s and younger. 
 

Anyways, I believe he is referring to how the label didn’t support the band at all and made it very hard for them to do the stuff that they wanted to do. Church mentioned that once a long, long time ago, he actually also mentioned that they wanted to do a U.S. tour in 2010 after the Asian and European dates but the label wouldn’t support it at all. I guess Chester could have funded it himself like Mike did for the U.S. run that he did but maybe he couldn’t or just felt defeated at that point. 
 

The sound of the record is something Chester wanted. Nobody forced him to make the songs a certain way, that’s all bullshit, despite what anyone says. Howard was a cool producer, and he let Chester do what he wanted, I remember him telling Chester, this is YOUR record, when discussing the double and triple harmonies. Chester is the one who changed the songs if you listen to the KROQ 2009 interview that the band did. He said he wasn’t happy with the original version of Fire and wanted to change it, probably felt the same way about the original versions of Too Late and My Suffering, and other stuff that he changed. Actually I think he did mention that the original version of Too Late was too personal about his relationship with ‘’his God’’ so he wanted to change it. He also said he wrote Inside Of Me and Condemned in one night when he felt like the album needed some big rock songs. All of the stuff was written by Chester 100% Ryan said, they just added music and production to whatever Chester wrote. 
 

I know Ryan said in 2012 that he believed the label saw the album and wanted it to be more polished and shiny and that the album had more of a grip to it before with heavier instrumentation but the actual songs were what Chester wanted. Chester even said himself that at the end of the day, whether the album did well or not was reflective on him because these were his songs the way he wrote them and nobody else. Even in Grey Daze and LP, he had Sean and Mike write lyrics with him, the DBS stuff was 100% Chester lyrically, probably the only music that he ever made that was TRULY just him. He even asked Twitter in 2010 after the OOA cycle was over if he made a bad album, because it didn’t sell well. He then came to the conclusion that it was the lack of promo, not that the songs were bad, as fans reassured him that. 
 

As much as everyone hates Sean, he was right when he said that Warner made it hard for Chester to do stuff outside of LP. We know this. Even the DBS stuff, they didn’t REALLY want it to come out, even though Mike and LP always supported Chester’s endeavors outside of the band, that didn’t mean that the label did. The label did the same to Mike’s endeavors outside of LP too, look at what happened with Reseda Beach and S.O.B.! I bet they didn’t love Fort Minor coming out either, especially when Mike slammed some of the people on Get Me Gone and High Road and shit. As Ryu said on that GBC song ‘’people at Warner are fucking high as hell.’’ LOL.