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Ashwhisker

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  1. Could this lead you to believe that "Grecian" was one of the final five? Grecian is not ASP. In the demo we heard, the instrumental is a tad different and the screaming is scatting so that should clear that up.

     

    The only reason I would assume it's Grecian, is because it was the only other track we heard from the DVD. The others have been released (Across The Line, and Blackbirds).

     

    Is there a source which proves the track wasn't finished?

    It was a uStream chat. TBCH I don't want to watch them all to find out which one, but it was definitely one of them.

     

    edit: here's a post about it

     

    edit 2: based on dates, I'm going to say it was this one: http://www.ustream.tv/recorded/6454979

  2. I agree with everything you're saying, but I think there was definitely more there that was scrapped because of Warner. There was creativity, but it could've been more.

     

    Now what I have to wonder is, was the "sophomore album" really "ridiculously bad", or just "ridiculous"? Phoenix seems undecided in the Making of Meteora DVD. I doubt the music was bad, but it was too ridiculous for the label's liking, so it was scrapped.

  3. I'm not too smart with this "trader" concept, but I get the general idea. I feel as if this concert should be released. The owner of the tape should release it. There are once-in-a-lifetime memories in that concert, unique moments, and an overall good show. I find it embarrassing that somebody has to hold on to it because of it's rarity. It's not like a 1 of 5 collector's edition statue or something. It's a concert. People waste their time being snobby and selfish. No, don't just release one song from the show. Release the whole thing. Memories were made, and it would be great to have people relive them. I know if I went to a concert and someone filmed it, I would love to watch it again. ESPECIALLY if I was on stage.

     

    "oh but man you don't understand the idea, this concert is so rare and the owner wants to keep it because--" for what? So he can have a smirk on his face knowing he has footage that nobody else owns? That's selfish. I guess holding on to something forever is the right thing to do these days. If nobody else is going to watch it, there is no point in even holding it. I'm suprised he didn't put a $100,000 price tag on it.

     

    I'm done here.

    I like you. Stick around.

  4. The deal is...we don't have a lot of material from the Meteora session, agreed, but the Meteora sound is similar to the Hybrid Theory sound. So I just mean we already have ton of material from the 1999-2003 Linkin Park. We also have a lot of material from the MTM session, but mainly alternative. Only 3 heavy songs from that time(wich doesn't sound like their older heavy songs) have surfaced. And IMO, what's interesting about it is that they reveal a side of LP we almost don't know : a Metal/Punk Linkin Park.

    I get that, but I would still much rather have Meteora-era stuff. Like you said, Meteora sounded like Hybrid Theory, but who knows what awesome b-sides they scrapped (see:Halo) because Warner never would've let LP put them on the album? She Couldn't proves that even in the pre-MTM time period they were making non-heavy, alternative stuff that doesn't sound like HT, and I would love to get to hear some of that.

  5. Way more interesting than releasing some random Hybrid/Metora demos for example, because we all have so much from that period already.

    Uh, no. We have next to nothing from the Meteora sessions besides the LPU9 demos. The only full b-sides we have (as far as I know) are Unfortunate, Halo, Standing In The Middle Of It (?). I may be missing something, but we are severely lacking compared to the MTM sessions.

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