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There would be enough for a box set, for sure, a smaller one like I said. Doesn’t need to be as massive as the Hybrid Theory and Meteora ones. CD 1: The album CD 2: All the tracks released that weren’t on the album CD3: Demos we never got of existing songs and others CD4: LA 2015 show was recorded for iTunes audio, put that out DVD 1: Making of The Rising Tied DVD 2: Live shows 2005, 2006 DVD 3: Live show 2015 People say We Major stuff can’t be released cuz of samples, not true. How did Apathy put out Bloc Party? How did Celph put out SCOM, All Night and Cover And Duck? How did Mike put out tracks on vinyl, Marc Ecko’s game? Plus he could just pay to clear the samples if he wanted to anyways. Watch Their Mouth was a B-Side from the album that never came out in any form. Was on the tracklisting for the album that Mike and Jay-Z were reviewing as to what made the album. Mike said he made 50 songs for Fort Minor so there’s at least some stuff for sure.

I thought cuz you said The Rising Tied, We Major and the Militia tracks were all great. My bad. and then you said you would have rather not had Rakim or Pusha on their respective songs, even though Mike just rapped Rakim’s verse anyways. Sounds like you just want to fight or instigate haha.

No way. PMA Piano Version was amazing!! As someone who saw it live a bunch of times, it was special. Chester sounded so good. My December (Piano Version) was also godly. and besides that, I disagree with you 100% about LOATR and SOTD. Those are some of the best, heartfelt LP songs of all time. Amazing rock ballad type songs. Do you even like LP? Or just the nu metal stuff???

I wasn’t saying those songs were amazing but the fact they got someone like Rakim as a feature is insane. People would kill for that feature. Of course the older stuff is better though, I don’t disagree there.

You’re welcome! The tracks with just Mike were good, but the guests that Mike had throughout it all, the names were huge. Plus like I said Jay-Z being an executive producer. Mike has worked with some huge names, huge legends in hip hop, the same way Chester has sang with the greats of rock and metal as well. I think though like I said, LP fans are more rock based naturally so they don’t know how cool it was for Mike to work with those people. The fact LP got Rakim on a track also is INSANE. Pusha T is another big name LP has worked with besides Jay-Z. LP doing We Made It with Busta Rhymes was also crazy, Busta is a true legend, so that was really special and is often forgotten about. What about Mike working with The Visionaries in ‘01? Underground but a big name back then. The X-Ecutioners too were big back then in the underground scene, Joe mentions this on the Drink Champs podcast from this year. Pharoah Monch from H! Vltg3 has also become a big name in hip hop, but he wasn’t that big at the time. If you are interested, check out Apathy’s YouTube channel. He started doing podcasts and they are great. He talks about the FM tour in 2006, PR 07 (he toured with SOB the entire time), some funny stories and seems like he really appreciates Mike. Celph talked about it too. They were never SOB so it’s not like they had any reason to beef with Mike (not that SOB really did). He mentions how when they toured with FM in 2006, they had an amazing bus. And on PR07 they had Ozzy’s bus from the 80’s and they had a crazy old guy named Pete who was racist but also crazy, he fell asleep at the wheel, he drove into a hospital, etc. It’s funny stories. Apathy goes into detail about many shows on PR07 like getting stopped at the Toronto show at the border and stuff. It’s epic. They broke down once on the Jersey turnpike, etc. Great episode Apathy also mentions how they filmed the music video for his song The Winter while on tour with FM in the U.S. in February 2006. That’s why Mike was in the video, he says. Pretty cool.

The Battle was a good track. It’s different for a lot of LP fans because it’s really a underground hip hop thing, the battle rap stuff. But Celph Titled was a great rapper. He might be offensive to some LP fans but the stuff he was doing was actually really talented and good. Him and especially Apathy were always better than S.O.B. but Ryu and Tak were good, too, just not as good as them. Apathy has become really a legend as years went by. Btw I know The Battle wasn’t really from an actual live battle but still. That’s what I mean when I say that a lot of LP fans might not truly appreciate some of the FM stuff because it was really underground hip hop oriented, people that knew hip hop or grew up with it would get it. Anyone remember Tools Of The Trade? That shit was also legendary. Had Celph on it too. But Mike coming up with the beat like that, etc. was awesome. Cover and Duck was another awesome track. Spraypaint & Inkpens…. So good.

This is a great topic and great post. It’s an amazing album. A very special album to Mike, being his first solo album and what not. Where’d You Go and RTN were massive back in the day and still get played. A lot of people that don’t even really know LP know those tracks. Petrified was also a dope track, anyone who has seen Mike perform it live knows this. I will say that I wish he never had a falling out with S.O.B. and Demigodz because they really made a great unit with Mike. A lot of the best Fort Minor moments were when they were a unit. Really good technical shit from those guys that many didn’t realize at the time, the stuff they were doing was bananas back then. Apathy is a legendary rapper and Celph was great, too. Ryu and Tak were not quite as good as them but still great, they had great verses. It sucks that the 2015 comeback was without them because by that year we could have got some good shit. I liked Welcome but it wasn’t as good as the original stuff. Anyways it was a shame that Warner shelved Reseda Beach. I wish Tak didn’t take it the way he did because that’s what ended the whole friendship between the guys and Mike. Reseda Beach and S.O.B. in general were too underground for a major label, especially Warner. Everyone knows that real hip hop isn’t marketable in the mainstream. That’s why Jay-Z even told Mike ‘’this is underground hip hop with big sound’’ about The Rising Tied, that was actually a compliment to Mike. I wish Mike did a little 20th anniversary set for the album. A small box set or something. Not as big as the HT or Meteora ones. But with the songs that didn’t make the album and maybe a live show from 2005/2006, those live sets were amazing. Maybe a 2015 show too. I know he said he wanted to focus on the current times but you can still celebrate the past while embracing the future too, many artists do this. But yeah the live shows were really cool, especially the 2005/2006 ones because Mike had a full orchestra of people performing with him, Ryu and Tak. It was really cool. Beatdown was a good drummer for the sound too (RIP dude). I’d say the best songs from the album are Remember The Name, Right Now, In Stereo, Cigarettes and Kenji. Right Now is my favorite of all of those. The verses from everyone are great, especially Black Thought’s. Mike even said it’s probably his favorite from the album, too. We Major was amazing too, maybe even better than the album in some ways. A lot of the verses and guest features on that mixtape were legendary. I feel like a lot of LP fans don’t truly appreciate or understand hip hop. Because Mike was working with LEGENDARY people back then in the game. Ghostface, Black Thought, Common, Lupe Fiasco, John Legend, Juelz Santana, those guys were big names in hip hop. Also, having Jay-Z executive produce the album was insane. He didn’t do that for just anyone. Also I can’t believe Mike did a track with Lord Finesse, Rock and Roll Pt. 2 around that time with Chester on it too. Lord Finesse is legendary in hip hop. So really, 2004-2005 was really a big time for Mike.

The best thing about Chester was that even if he wasn’t perfect, you felt the emotion and sincerity in his singing. He had a special way to really emote the words he was singing and he his voice was really unique sounding even if not perfect. That’s what made him so great. I always think about when Don Gilmore said that Chester had 2 or 3 different voices inside his voice and that it was the strangest thing in the world. You can hear it, especially in the early days. That’s why I think, even if some singers are not perfect, they are special. But prior to like 2008 or something, Chester was usually always perfect to me. Age does that.

Yeah, maybe. I feel like a lot of Mall is Living Things music. It Goes Through, Devil’s Drop, maybe even White Noise originally cuz it sounds like Victimized/LGM with its electro rock sound and that toy sound at the beginning is very Living Things. Ammosick probably is the only outlier.

I think it was but Michael Bay didn’t like the song enough and went with Imagine Dragons’ song instead. It ended up being used for the Transformers 4 video game soundtrack, instead. It’s a weird situation because judging by the LPU making of videos for the song (Thanksgiving), it seems like the band was working on it for the album, but I don’t think originally it was planned for it, idk. It was never really outwardly straight up confirmed, I don’t think. What I’ve Done was a super strong song and it was written much before it appeared on Transformers 1. New Divide was created specifically for the Transformers 2 soundtrack and was another big hit, maybe the biggest of all the Transformers songs. Iridescent was another song written long before it appeared in Transformers 3 but the band did make a new mix of the song for Transformers 3. So What I’ve Done was really the only song of the 3 that was just like a normal song that appeared in a movie back then (many bands did this in the 90’s and 2000’s). I would imagine UIG was written for Transformers 4 or at least worked around it, judging by the other examples.

I still want to know what album Dancer was from. Totally has a MTM vibe with the donna vocals (didn’t they change it to more just straight gibberish after MTM and not use the phrase donna anymore? Cuz Chester mentions the chick donna on the MTM DVD).