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20 minutes ago, Burberry said:

If Jeff really wanted that stuff out there, he would have probably leaked them already. The issue is the part that stuff like this isn't meant to be out there, and we should be just glad we have so much stuff already. No need for someone to risk their neck for relatively few people with nothing to gain

This. We got a lot already. Would it be nice if we got more? Yes. But I am glad with what have so far. Hell, we got PictureBoard. Thats something the fanbase has been wanting for such a long time. 

But I also agree that an unknown who has the cassettes or CDs is the best way for this stuff to leak. PictureBoard Xero version apparently was out for years on Soundcloud. And recently we got Rhinestone audition albeit a not so clean version. Then there's the previous Hybrid Theory demo CDs that found their way to eBay years back. This was a time when the band was searching for a label and this stuff circulated and changed hands. So I don't doubt that it will eventually pop up somewhere. It's anything after Hybrid Theory that will be hard to get I think if ever.

I hold out hope that we might get more but I am also satisfied with what we have thus far and I will never complain if this it too 

4 minutes ago, NJPLP said:

It would be a little suspicious if he did that, but he could just probably put the songs out on a file sharing site such as Mega or MediaFire.

I agree with Diaux. Timing would be bad especially after he just dropped a book talking about them. Plus, I think he wouldn't do it out of respect for the band and the friends and family of Chester. I know its been four years but still would be a jerk move to leak stuff like that. 

2 hours ago, LPLStaff said:

What if it's all just from the Thoughts That Take Away My Pride demo? Which probably isn't even called that, it probably has a real name lol

Hey, when ya find out please share so we can all stop calling it Thoughts Take Away My Pride lol

2 hours ago, NJPLP said:

I'm guessing only time will tell until "Thoughts That Take Away My Pride", which probably has a real name besides that, gets released by Linkin Park.

I'm gonna go ahead and be the pessimistic one here but I actually highly doubt we will get anything more. At least officially. We haven't had an Underground CD in four years and Mike originally didn't want to do a HT boxset. He had to be convinced which makes me think he won't do it a second time for Meteora (I do hope it happens though). I actually think we have a higher chance of Hybrid Theory/Xero era stuff leaking, similar to how the demo CDs were found or Rapology songs, but even then I feel that is low sadly. Unless we get another HPOATT incident I just think anything Meteora and on is gonna be locked on Mike's hard drive for quite some time.

Hm hm. I have no proof but my guess is this could be the same song as Thoughts That Take Away My Pride just another part of it. But it's lyrics/words on a wall so it could be any song or not a song at all.

6 hours ago, lpliveusername said:

I'm pretty sure this was discussed before and everyone agreed it was a song by a different artist named Xero that was somehow mixed in with Linkin Park on BMI.

I think I was the one that brought that up. I remember seeing it pop up on BMI some time ago and it credited all LP members and an unknown person. Mark Wakefield was not on the list of credited people at the time. I copied and pasted this persons name into Google and found them on Soundcloud. They had Xero in their band name but weren't called Xero outright.

Unfortunately, it has changed now so I literally have just my word with no proof, I can't even remember this guys name. I looked him up wondering if he had done a collab with LP but the song I heard 100% had nothing to do with them. So, I don't blame any if they doubt me.

17 hours ago, LPLStaff said:

Actually he did an interview with us, some final edits are being made and it'll be ready soon. It was planned to be released after the Jeff Blue stuff... Jeff's stuff got delayed a good bit as you know and now this is going through some revisions before it's ready to go. Would imagine it'd be out in May. Not sure on the actual music as that is completely out of our hands, but just speaking about the interview.

That's cool to know. Even if we don't get the songs at least we get a bit more Xero history. You guys been doing a lot of work with these interviews so thank you! Can't wait for the future releases! 

On 4/19/2021 at 5:49 PM, Jlumber said:

Anything else happening with this? Very interested in hearing the rest

Tbh I dunno. It feels weird seeing all this from the outside. Guy has proof of the cassette, uploads proof with vague message, and never follows through/shows more. I really dunno what's happening here. I just hope it's nothing serious ya know

1 minute ago, SerioDrew said:

Make sure to check Linkipedia, Im sure many of the info i mentioned exist in Linkinpedia too, and probably info for more of the stuff you posted that I didnt think of from the top of my head. By the way I believe your post doesnt violate any rules As long as you dont provide download links for any material officially released you are safe. Most of these are from youtube anyway so. Imo you should include the channel names and videos. Its hard for us to evaluate what you have there without listening ourselves, I doubt anyone would harass people, LP community aint like that.

Ok, I just wanted to be careful with other people's stuff and their privacy on things. But if you think it's ok I'll share that info.
Most of the stuff come from Unofficial Linkin Park FanMade Albums. For the See demo it comes from his Unreleased and More Vol 3. The rest come from his Rare and Live 2001 which is weird cause.... none of it is actually live. the Untitled supposed New Divide demo come from his New Divide single album. The "Xero adamant" is from Linkin Park Mixes which I'm 100% you all know.  I just decided to chop it up and actual found stuff that wasn't in Xero Current. they might exist elsewhere that I am unaware of though.

I'm curious about the Al-B stuff. Isn't the 99 problems/ 1 step klsr trademarked by Warner? Or did i get misinformation along the way?

So, Looking For An Answer demos could be real then? That's intersting to know. I was unaware of Mike attempting more with the song beyond Hollywood Bowl

The remixes I was super iffy on. But decided last second to include.

For PB, WAYW, and GGB I probably should of removed. That was my fault. What about
The Mall I wasn't 100% as it did say unreleased and I wasn't sure about them.


 

16 minutes ago, itworkedforkurt said:

Of these, I can confirm that the Dialate stems are real to an extent as Mike's MPC from not long ago had the song's samples. A.07, I believe, is the unofficial name given to an intro the band used in 2004 that utilized a sample of the Slayer song South of Heaven.

I was unaware of the Mike's MPC situation. Thank you!

As for A.07 I think I know what you are talking about. If it's this then no, what I got is very different and isn't a live rendition either.
 

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Consider this a follow up to my unknown Mike Shinoda/Linkin Park snippet. I got a collection of songs that I was organizing and getting ready to talk about on here. These are things I found over the years. It took me awhile to fully organize these as I wanted to be as accurate as possible with my notes. Also, some of these were massive mp3 files and I had to divide them up. Unfortunately, I cannot guarantee amazing quality. I'm not claiming I have anything of importance here either. Just stuff I found over the years. It could all very much be junk lol

So, I share these notes for the following reasons:
1.) I want to know what is real and fake
2.) What's known and unknown
3.) What's mislabled or wrong
4.) to be educated overall

Also, I cannot guarantee that any of these are real except for a select few. In the case I do have something that is unreleased or unknown I will go through the mods first before posting any downloads if I post those at all. It will be in their hands at that point and mine will be tied by then.

If there is anything wrong with my post please let me know asap and I will correct or delete it all together.
Also, I omitted the names of people/youtube channels cause I don't want anyone harassing them. I will share names with mods if they ask.

Xero/Hybrid Theory
 

---Xero Adamant
   This name is my own cause I didn't know what to call it. These are more short demos but they came from the Youtube
   video by *. It is a reupload of Lucas Goulart who was terminated. I went and put the video into pieces
   and found several shorts that exist within in the video but not in Xero Current (as far as I can tell). As I could not put a
   name to them i used the song they came from and included an * to denote them. The songs are as follows:

   -Unknown* (could not figure out the song)
   -Chester Scream* (maybe from Crawling I Hate you So Much Intro Version?)
   -Coal*
   -Hum* (could not figure out song but it is familiar)
   -noo* (This goes with alar. they exist as one sample called noo_alar in XC Folder but exist as two separate songs in video.
         As a result I separated the name too. These are a Part of Me)
   -alar*(same as above comment)
   -She Couldn't Chester Reverse*
   -Stick and Move*

---Dialate shorts/stems/seeds
   Another Youtube video from a channel called *. Video is called *
   It is the only video up on the channel and it is isolated parts of the song Dialate. I have no idea how he got them. i thought it could of
   been fake but they also have isolated vocals which gives it more credibility in my eyes. Broken apart and separated by me.

---See (Hybrid Theory demo)
   Again from another Youtube source. This one comes from a channel called *. It is a channel that creates albums
   of various categories ranging from b-sides, demos, unreleased, rare live songs, and remixes. This song came from the *
   album they made. It is a short instrumental and sounds very Linkin Park. However, the channel utilizes a lot of HPoaTT and have altered them to sound
   better or straight up combined some of them. They have clear knowledge of music making and mixing.
   Also, they used a fan-made song title as Faith Xero demo and passed it as a real Xero demo. They could of gotten it from another source and believed it. So, See could be a fanmade
   song as well and they didn't know. I did ask them in a comment but got no reply as to date. I don't think this is real tbh.
 

---Pictureboard Original Xero
   From Youtube *
 

---Rhinestone Audition Instrumental
   from TJ Demonte
 

---And One (Alternate)
   Found this floating around some time ago but cannot remember where. It is a shortened version. Lacks "It's too late to love me now" portion. Faded scratching outro
 

---And One (Alternative)
  This and the rest of the Xero/HT all come from *. None of these are live despite the name.  Similar  to above except it has Wind Intro and a drum and guitar outro instead of the faded one.
 

---Hybrid Theory Intro
   From *. This is just an isolated audio clip. I can't exactly remember the song it came from but I know it.
 

---Step Up demo
   From *. Short instrumental of Step Up. I feel they have access to Xero Current and combined the stems to make a
   passable demo
 

---AC Sample
   From *. This a repeating of the unknown* song from Xero Adamant from up above.
   I don't know what AC is.
 

---Untitled 001
   From *. longer version of COULDVE from Xero Current
 

---Untitled 002
   From *. combined version of ANDSTRIN and ASHES_BE from Xero Current Folder. Also longer
 

---In The End Synth
   From *. Speaks for itself. Piano
 

---Runaway (Bridge Beat)
   From *. Speaks for itself
 

---Forgotten (Live Intro Beat)
   From *. Speaks for itself. Just the isolated drum beat.
 

---Interlude 000
   From *. Very similar to the LA Sequences in HPoaTT but more instruments included
 

---Old Intro 001
   From *. Short drum track
 

---Intermission 002
   From *. Short instrumental of mostly drums
 

---Random 003
   From *. Another short drum instrumental

Collission Course

---Don't Stay/99 Problems demo
   A demo remix by Al-B the same guy who did the 99 Steps Klsr. I did a Google search for this one some time ago when I learned about it
   Website now gone but I'm sure exists on others. At the time I found the song with several different names and artists. They go as follows:

  *Titles:
   -99 Problems
   -Don't Stay/99 Problems (alternate)
   -99 Problems (alternate)
   -99 Problems Al-B3

   The titles would repeat with a variation of the artist but it was always either Al-B, Al-B3, Jay-z, Linkin Park or a combination of such.
   Also downloading all other versions proved they were all the same song.
 

--- Lying From You/Dirt Off Your Shoulders demo
   Found this floating around a Russian site some time ago. Dunno the legitimacy of this but it seems
   real. If anything this could be a pre-final mix. Song starts harder than normal and lacks Chester's
   Frappaccino comment. It is also 8 seconds longer than the released version. There were two versions
   of this but the second was clearly cut off at the end (song literally stopped mid chorus) so I ignored it. It also had lpunderground.ne in the name
   which is a Netherlands website but visiting it brought me to a dead website.

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*Meteora

---A.07
   Sounds very Linkin Park. Short instrumental. Not full song. From MP3.com
 

---Meteora demo snippets
   This was also downloaded from MP3.com. Several song snippets back to back. It sounds like a youtube video that was converted to an mp3.
   Like, "hey, here are the songs link in the description for download" type of Youtube video. The songs go as follows

   -A.07 (literally same as above. Above probably came from this meaning A.07 is most likely not the real name)
   -Breaking the Habit (unknown version. very high pitch tune compared to all other versions including drawing)
   -Unknown (It is familiar but I can't put my finger on it)
   -Halo from Underground 10
   -Broken Foot from Underground 11
   -Pepper from Underground 12
   -Rhinocerous from Underground 14
   -Unreleased from Making of Meteora DVD
 

---Numb
   Lacks drums. Dunno what to make of this. Was labled as Untitled but the time was shorter than the In The End demos
   and that caught my eye. I think it was mp3.com that I got this from but can't remember for sure.

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*One More Light

---What Are You Worth
   Got from Kingdom leaks before it was removed. I know everyone knows about this song
 

---Heavy demo
   Told it's most likely fake as the stems exist online. From Vk.com
 

---Good Goodbye demo
   From VK.com.
 

---Looking for an Answer demo 1 and demo 2
   I got two of these. Same lyrics as Hollywood Bowl but both have vastly different instrumentals. One is from *, other I can't remember
   Considering the only version that is out there with vocals is a live one these could be real? But at the same time I'm not sold on it

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*The Mall demos

---Ammosick demo
   From *
 

---Luna demo
   From *
 

---Dancer demo
   from Youtube. Channel is now gone.

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*I'm Not The One snippet
   Found in a Google search from shady Russian website so will not share the site. Downloaded against my better judgement.
   Instrumental snippet. Probably not real. And def not worth it. No viruses yet lol

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*Remixes
   Remixes are very hard for me as there exist so many by fans. These are the few I found most interesting.

---Catalyst (Sung Un Park Unreleased Remix)
   Found on same shady Russian website. It's a remix so... yeah. Downloaded it cause it said unreleased
   but it could still be a fanmade thing rather than an official unheard remix.
 

---Catalyst (Otherside Draft version)
   Same site. Downloaded cause it said Draft version.
 

---Papercut vs David Banner (Remix by DJ Vlad & Roc Raida)
   From Vk.com
 

---Pts.of.Athrty (Remix by FSG)
   From Vk.com

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*New Divide

---Untitled demo
   From *. A rough instrumental of New Divide. Differs from Megatron off of HPoaTT

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*Warrior
   Short clip of Mike rapping over a track. Very very bad quality. Cannot make out lyrics. I think it was from Youtube but I'm not certain.

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*New Song 2016 Demo
   Instrumental. Positive is Riverline as 2016 is OML sessions and sounds nothing like it but I don't know Riverline well enough to tell.

8 hours ago, NJPLP said:

I think you got the date mixed up. On October 16, 2000, the show was in Houston, Texas, which hasn't been confirmed if it was played or not. I found it on here in the 2000 & earlier shows by looking up the date you mentioned.

WAIT! You are right, I am wrong. Mike said a "week before Halloween in October" not a "week from now." Sorry about that.

Ok ok, so there is no official date for this performance then. All I got to go off is my memory and obviously that is wrong lol. So this is most likely is Orlando, FL (in my opinion) and if it is then I am sure it is the Hard Rock Cafe (because the frame picture there on the wall has a date) and it's def before October and in the year 2000 based on context of how they talk about the album release. This would potentially place it in September then possibly the 12th based on the dates you provided.
Shoot, I just moved. I was an hour from Orlando when I was in Florida. And I haven't been to Hard Rock since Game Grumps in 2017. I wonder if I could call and get verification. say I'm writing a paper XD

EDIT: Or It could be the July 24, 2000 show lol. I wish I took a picture of the frame photo as it had a date. All I know is was early, before Meteora.

Ok, so I finally found the picture and date is 11/15/2000 so I was absolutely wrong on that bootleg performance. I definitely misremembered what Mike said.  But having  re-listened to Mike and Chester's comments throughout the performance just now I feel very strongly that the July 24, 2000 show at The Sapphire in Orlando, Florida is most likely the bootleg performance. Mike's comment about the "album being released a week before Halloween" means this performance is 2000 and the only time they played in Orlando before the album release (according to what info is on the list provided) is The Sapphire. They played at the Hard Rock Live in Orlando after the album release and the date I remember seeing on the framed photo is the same the aligns up here.

I know I'm changing my mind here but I'm now going on the context of info instead of my memory. Not enough to pin it but I feel strongly about it now. Thanks for correcting me, NJPLP.
I also found where I got the October date. It was a YouTube video.

So, this might be a stupid question but how come the Hard Rock Cafe Orlando, FL live show from Oct 16, 2000 isn't uploaded in the archives? This would be the same show that is in the bootleg Splitting the DNA album. I lived in Florida for most my life (only recently just moved) and I have been to the Hard Rock Cafe several times for Modest Mouse, Bright Eyes, and even the Game Grumps. There is a wall full of framed photos of bands that have played there and their dates. Linkin Park is up on this wall. Also, within the audio Chester can be heard saying "Hey hey, Orlando!" and Mike can be heard saying, "We have an album coming out in a week. It's called Hybrid Theory" which lines up as Hybrid Theory was released Oct 24, 2000.
Is it because it's on a bootleg album and more info is needed to solidify it as certain?

4 hours ago, SerioDrew said:

This i was an interesting topic to follow. Its a pity it turned up to probably be fake. Personally I liked the sound of the snippet.

I'm 80/20 on it now. I would need the whole thing for me to convinced but it seems highly likely what everyone is saying is correct.
I do appreciate all the help you guys.

I got some instrumentals I could share as well if you are all interested. I know these are easier to fake, though.

I think you guys are right. I went and relistened to Petrified and the most damning line to me was "dancing back to the days" which fits the "gone back to the days" part of this snippet.

59 minutes ago, blackout said:

The rap in this "GATS demo" sounds like the bits of "Petrified" rap mixed together. The way Mike pronounces the words in "Petrified" is very characteristic and different than in any other song. It definitely reminds me of "Petrified" - that's why the lyrics doesn't make much sense. The beat is not very LPish too, I think, and it seems to be a fan-made demo in general.

I guess that makes sense. You are the third to tell me it could be a remix. Fort Minor isn't something I know too well but I do know Petrified. I don't think it is Petrified but I see how it is similar. But I think I am leaning more to remix with the rest of you all. Thank you so much for the help and input. This one really had me scratching my head.

Ok, update:

I did a bit of searching. Was not at all hard to find since I got the info to go on. I searched both "GATS Transformers," "Guilty All The Same Transformers," GATS demo," and "Guilty All The Same demo" in Google with quotations. My results yielded another snippet, the same one, but is thirteen seconds long instead of six and called Guilty All The Same demo 2014. No tags in the properties. The lyrics are the same and the beat carries on longer. It is also lesser quality as if someone recorded it with a phone. A lot quieter. I asked my brother to lend his ears for what Mike is singing. This is the variations we think we hear:

"Move with might of the panic attack I like
Down back to the days..."

"Moon at night/panic attacked/I liked
Gone back to what days...."

"Move with mic/ the panic attacked I like
Gone back to my days ...."

So, I really don't what this is. Despite the name I am hesitant to say it is a GATS demo. I know it is something. An interesting thing my brother brought up is that if this is a demo it could just be Mike spitting out a beat to get a feel for the song or how he wants it sung. I know they have down similar methods before with MTM. So, that's all I got. I'll update with more if I find anything else. I'm gonna reupload for you all to listen to. Also, found a 2016 instrumental that I don't recognize along the way. I think that might be Riverline but y'all can listen to it and help with that too

https://drive.google.com/drive/folders/16k7nxcwNFaGaAvA1a4RBOUGscag9XOSf?usp=sharing

8 minutes ago, itworkedforkurt said:

Yep, it works! It's so weird; I can't place where the vocals came from. 

I know, right? It 100% sounds like Mike and the fact that it's labeled 2014 demo but called GATS Transformers OST Snippet in the properties? And the lyrics don't match GATS at all?

I can't make heads or tails on it.

9 minutes ago, itworkedforkurt said:

Still doesn't work.

Ok, Last try lol. I think I figured it out. My fault haha.

https://drive.google.com/file/d/196vdvT3EplQUdeGVOOWttVWFSe_MPpy1/view?usp=sharing

 

Just now, itworkedforkurt said:

Nothing. It says "Owner prevented downloads and playback".

Wtf? Ok, try now

1 minute ago, itworkedforkurt said:

Can't play the clip for some reason.

Try now.

5 minutes ago, lpliveusername said:

The second clip probably cae from Mike's Instagram stories or Snapchat (I don't remember which one). They were very active on social media during the recording of One More Light. Mike posted a teaser of the song right before it came out.

 

Where did you get the first clip? Sounds like a remix, a bunch of random words thrown together, but I have no idea where the vocals might have come from.

Lyrically the second matches what Martinez said.

Ummmmm, I can't remember tbh. I had some free time the other day and was surfing sites seeing what I could find. It was one of them. I know I was searching YouTube and a Russian MP3 site. I got sketched by that and left lol. I found a few things but these were the most notable cause they have lyrics.

1 hour ago, NJPLP said:

Which One Step Closer performance was it in which during the "Shut Up" bridge in which Mike sings "blood is pouring"? Which performance was it? I remember hearing it one time on YouTube, but now I can't remember where the performance was.

My guess would be Rock Am Ring 2004. Though I know he sung it in other performances.

2 minutes ago, xeroboi said:

Sound like a fan made remix 

Do you know where the lyrics are from or what is exactly being sung? Doesn't sound like GATS to me but I can't exactly make it all out.

7 hours ago, Metheory said:

You can give a link to download the first snippet? I think I definitely heard it under the names like "new linkin park 2014 demo"

yeah, sure. I uploaded it to my google drive. I personally don't recognize it but it most likely is just something I'm unaware of that has an official release.
Also, I never uploaded to Drive before so let me know if you can see it or not

https://drive.google.com/file/d/1qeJaLb9ybUF2zzQ7iJ-HI0qV9gd0PYAS/view?usp=sharing

In which case if it is official I will delete it with  post haste

17 hours ago, martinez said:

First one is probobly GATS live version with Mike rapping the Rakim part, I think

 

The second is "Hot Karl - Like Riding A Bike (feat. Mike Shinoda, Intuition & Abnormal)"

The first one is not a live version. Also, the music is different.

The second one is 100% it thank you!

I just a compare of the two and it's definitely not Mike rapping Rakim's verses.