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My Research Update:
Lance replied again today: "So far I've not had luck. I moved about a year ago and I purged some things but was pretty sure I had kept copies of some CDs. Unfortunately I haven't been able to find. After scanning the art work for my website I packed a lot of stuff away. If I come upon it I'll let you know."
(Still waiting for responces from London Miller & seller "Music Obsession" & Afresh91 though...)

Yeah, looks like it's the way to go now. Unless those 2 people that we're waiting answer of actually answer this week... Neve loose hope. Despair will never win!! (xD)

There are actually 4 things we are waiting for.

But yeah contacting record stores is the only thing left we can do, so lets get it started.

Nothing mailed yesterday... Hopefully today

damn i was really hoping we had some news, its been a long time since we had any news.

I have no update as well, still waiting for 3 replys, one of which i will hopefully get during the following 2 days.

My Research Daily Update:
I'm waiting replies from Lance & Miller and a seller (Music Obsession) who said they will look if they have something.
Miller & Lance replied that they are still in search.

So as Almamu said "we might get something to listening too the next week".

My Research Daily Update:
I'm waiting replies from Lance & Miller and a seller (Music Obsession) who said they will look if they have something.

Lance replied to me yesteday : "I haven't forgotten you, but the stuff I was looking for isn't here at my house. I thought it was. Let me check this weekend in my storage. Best, Lance"
So we are expecting news during this weekend from Lance and in 2 days from Afresh91.
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-Could you release "Lee Cadena ft Dj E-Man - UN Rapology Mix" from vol 13 ? just curious to listen to it
-Did you Afresh buy it from the same seller as Astat?
-Which site did you both bought if from ?
-There is another seller of vol.11 in Amazon named "tmurrell2" but i've sent him 3 messeges and he haven't replied.

Damn, do you at least know if it is on it's way ?

Mine still hasn't come yet....I'm holding out hope that I didn't get the wrong copy too

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My Research Daily Update: I have sent 28 pms in total to people associated with Rapologys.
Im still waiting for 8 replies, 2 sellers and 6 people who worked at Rapologys.
I have gotten 20 replies, 17 from sellers and 3 from people who worked at Rapologys
I'm still waiting replies from Lance & Miller and also today another seller replied: "I'll have to look. PB"

Note: A few days ago i was listening to HT and i read the booklet and i saw that at "Mike Thanks:" 007 was mentioned.

My Research Daily Update:
I have no update, actually I'm still waiting for Lance & Miller to reply. The only thing worth mentioning is that a few days ago i was listening to HT and i read the booklet and i saw that at "Mike Thanks:" 007 was mentioned.

- Lance Whitfield [Graphic Designer] : (he's is searching, answer pending)

"I'll take a look and see what I might have. Will have to check in my storage and let you know if I can find anything Give me a few days"
- Miller London [urban Network] : (he's is searching, answer pending)
"Most of those CDs are in storage When I get a chance I will see if I can locate them"

 

Well, I received my Amazon order of what was supposed to be Rapology Vol. 11 today...and opened up the package to find a copy of Tune Towne XI.

damn sorry mate, it's a pitty :\

Lee said it himself. I guess we'll do a recap for the entire information as soon as we'll have Rapology 11 and Closing.

Thats not what I asked, the question was about "My copy should be arriving in the next few days, I'll keep you guys posted." But yeah we should do that

I was just listeting to Hybrid Theory and i was reading the booklet and by chance I noticed at "Mike Thanks:" 007 was one of names, just thought it was worth sharing

My copy should be arriving in the next few days, I'll keep you guys posted.

Do you have any info on that, or just hypotheticly ? cause the seller you bought it from doesnt reply to messeges

The Miller London's answer looks promising. Hope he finds the CDs. I'd gladly buy them (?) hopefully he is allowed to just rip that song. Can't wait ^^

Yeah i think we'll get something from Miller or Lance they seem that they are willing to help

My Research Daily Update: I have sent 28 pms in total to people associated with Rapologys.
The 9 im still waiting are 3 sellers and 6 people who worked at Rapologys.
I have gotten 16 replies from sellers, but unfortunatly nothing worth mentioning.
and 3 replies from people who worked at Rapologys:
1: Lance Whitfield [Graphic Designer] : (he's is searching, answer pending)

"I'll take a look and see what I might have. Will have to check in my storage and let you know if I can find anything Give me a few days"
2: Lee Cadena [Executive of Rapologys] : (got some general info but he went offline)
"Joseph used to work for me and I had Mike stopping by my office and I had him do some graphics for me. I helped joseph hone his skills by getting him with some Beat Junkies. I helped them get themselves together as a group (Xero) and would introduce them at places like The Whiskey A Go-Go. The Troubadour and The Mint here in L.A."
3: Miller London [urban Network] : (he's is searching, answer pending)
"Most of those CDs are in storage When I get a chance I will see if I can locate them"

But did he give you any info before going offline?

only some general info but worth mentioning :

For those of you who ordered Rapology 11, Lee says he think Joe did the artwork for that one.

did you talk to him as well ? (that amazon seller that those guys bought vol.11 is not responiding to messeges though)

Thanks for all the work you're doing dude, none of this would be possible without you.

np man, I'm really happy the rest of you appreciate it

I'M TALKING WITH LEE CADENA AT FB ATM, I WILL LET YOU KNOW IF I GET ANY INFO ASAP !!!

edit : sht he just went offline

I asked him if he could help me out with any kind of information on Vol. 12.

I also messaged all members of the Urban Network LinkedIn account, asking if they can help: https://www.linkedin.com/company-beta/1053434/?pathWildcard=1053434

Do we have any response from there ?

I need a few people to help me assemble a list of who to contact, if I blindly look for stores myself I'm not going to find them all.

I can't help with that, my free time is limited atm but im sure some people would be willing to help.

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My Research Daily Update: I have sent 29 pms in total to people associated with Rapologys.

The 12 im still waiting are 3 sellers and 9 people who worked at Rapologys.

I have gotten 16 replies from sellers, but unfortunatly nothing worth mentioning.

I today i got a reply from a guy, named Lance Whitfield who did some artoworks for Rapologys back then:

"I'll take a look and see what I might have. Will have to check in my storage and let you know if I can find anything Give me a few days"

Ok let me know when you're wrapping that part up and we'll move on to contacting record stores who might have stocked releases by The Urban Network, then we can look into the Rapology releases.

i think you should do that at the same time i'm waiting for responses cause I believe most of the people involved at Rapologys won't respond, and most sellers don't know a thing so...

My Research Daily Update: I have sent 29 pms in total to people associated with Rapologys. I have gotten 14 replies, all from sellers, but unfortunatly nothing worth mentioning. The 15 im still waiting are: 5 sellers and 10 people who worked at Rapologys.

Mike trolling us again I see... lmao

why would you say that ?

I said it based on the fact that SFX Multimedia Group office (which Urban Netwrok was part of) was at 120 N. Victory Blvd. Burbank, CA .

do you keep messeging record stores ?

I'll try to connect with last.fm admins to search user who scrobbled rapology 12, if that's account is still active...

good thought even though it seems unlikely they will give any info but its worth trying

My Research Daily Update: I have sent 23 pms in total to people associated with Rapologys and have gotten 11 replies back all from sellers, but unfortunatly nothing worth mentioning. The 12 im still waiting are: 6 sellers and 6 people who worked at Rapologys.

If I'm not mistaken it was said earlier that Mike has already been messaged for more info, including whether or not there are other Xero tracks out there and he hasn't replied.

His memory of older stuff isn't always the greatest, but that's nothing we didn't already know.

it's a shame though i mean i sure when he heard Fiends & Drop he was like daaamn *nostalgia* so he and every band member of every band should have the files of all there songs.

I actually have LinkedIn. What should I ask him? Should I link him the thread?

 

Edit: I also contacted the seller of the two other Rapology samplers, but since you already got a reply in the meantime, I suppose he won't be able to tell me more^^

Ask him if he has volume 12 , and if he can sell it or give it to us, and if he can send us the tracklists of volumes 11-12-17-18 (just in case there are more than volume 12's Closing)

We've messaged several LA-area prominent record stores, etc with no luck yet.

That's a good way to find I believe there is a strong chance we'll find it that way, i'm trying to reach out sellers and people who worked at Rapologys throught the internet so we kinda cover everything we can

http://www.ebay.com/itm/The-Urban-Networks-Rapology-9-by-Various-Promo-Only-Double-CD-Set-Compilation-/161715821846?hash=item25a7039d16:g:Af8AAMXQrNtR1abB

 

So It's not volume 12 but it is volume 9. The reason I'm posting this is because maybe the seller knows information on how to obtain the other volumes. Maybe we could reach out to the seller and see what he says?

 

EDIT: I don't have an ebay account so it would have to be someone else.

 

EDIT 2: This seller is selling Rapology 13-16, maybe he knows more information?

https://www.discogs.com/artist/677427-Stu-Jacobs?page=1

 

Edit 3: This website currently has volumes 1-3. http://www.musicstack.com/show.cgi?search_type=artist&find=rapology&find_focus=0&x=7&y=12&cur=USD

 

Edit 4: That's all I could find with a quick google search that brought up 9 pages of results

1: I don't have an ebay account either so if someone has he could pm that guy.

2: He is not a seller, he is the one who did the mastering at Rapology i have already lent him an email but if someone has LinkedIn he could contact him throught there as well : https://www.linkedin.com/in/stu-jacobs-69699113/

3: Already contacted him.

4: I have pmed about 25 Rapology owners, but i have gotten about 5 responses and they all got it randomly, if I get anything i'll let you know

Bonus: Atm since im done with the owners of Rapologys I'm trying to get in touch with people who worked for those collections.

Executive Order #1998: All LPLive projects both public and behind the scenes/private are on hold until further notice, aka until this Xero song is found.

Also, could you tweet Mike asking if what we are looking for actually exists, and if so, if there are more of those tracks ? i tweeted but its more likely to reply a tweet from you

https://twitter.com/AndrewMariolis/status/840686251271426053

Very interesting information. I guess we don't need any other information from him. That confirms the 1998 date for vol14.

I'm trying to get in touch with more people connecting to Rapology, you know one leads to another, so i'll get some more info soon enough (i hope)

so i got in touch with Mtume Salaam (the guy who sold vol 13 & 14 to Almamu) this is what he told me :
(if you want me to ask him anything else let me know)

"From what I can tell, Mike Shinoda was friends with Lee Cadena, the guy who was the Executive Producer of the Rapology series. I don't know anything more about the relationship other than it seemed to be more than business based on a shout-out Lee Cadena does on one of the Rapology tracks. It sounded like they were friends, but I could be wrong.

I discovered the Linkin Park / Kenji / Mike Shinoda connection by Googling and following links online.
Mike Shinoda is also credited with Illustration for Rapology Volume 16. I just updated that listing to reflect that credit. That's all I know. I hope it helps....

I don't know the original year of release for any of the Rapologys. But it's fairly easy to determine it. Those discs were created as in-store play CDs for new rap records. Emphasis on the word 'new'. Therefore, if you Google the songs on the playlist, you will be able to tell which year the CDs came out. "
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"I am the same Mtume Salaam that used to work for Warner Bros. back in the day and I did a fair amount of music journalism and writing too. That's how I ended up with the Rapology CDs - they were promotional / industry-only CDs. Never intended for commercial release. I don't know a thing about Linkin Park specifically though.

...Those other Rapologys you guys are looking for will turn up eventually. Those CDs were fairly common back then - they pressed a decent amount of them. Of course, a lot of disappeared over the years, but they'll turn up sooner or later."

Such a great way to celebrate the 20th anniversary of Xero's sampler tape.

hadn't thought of it, but you are totally right, what could be better than getting 3 more Xero songs for the anniversary right?

Ontopic Note : Is there any way we can find who is the one who uploaded the track list at lastfm ?