NJPLP Posted July 15, 2021 Share Posted July 15, 2021 There is this site called songbpm.com. When I searched up those songs I found out this: And One BPM - It's BPM is 110 BPM. She Couldn't (Demo) BPM - It's BPM is 98 BPM. Dialate (Xero Demo) BPM - It's BPM is 106 BPM. Reading My Eyes (Xero Demo) BPM - It's BPM is 137 BPM. Pictureboard (Demo) BPM - It's BPM is 105 BPM. Stick N Move (Demo) BPM - It's BPM is 108 BPM. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LPsMart Posted July 15, 2021 Share Posted July 15, 2021 If you had fact checked it, you would have realized that And One isn't played on click (except the outro, which isn't 110 BPM but 100), and if it were, it would be around 115. All the sources you find googling "BPM" or "Key" of a song differ from each other, and mostly you'll find they're all wrong. I suggest you to get BPM from either linkinpedia.com (LPL) or the remix spreadsheet 2.0, which both are reliable sources. If the BPM aren't on there, you'd have to find out yourself or ask someone to help you find out. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NJPLP Posted July 15, 2021 Author Share Posted July 15, 2021 1 hour ago, LPsMart said: If you had fact checked it, you would have realized that And One isn't played on click (except the outro, which isn't 110 BPM but 100), and if it were, it would be around 115. All the sources you find googling "BPM" or "Key" of a song differ from each other, and mostly you'll find they're all wrong. I suggest you to get BPM from either linkinpedia.com (LPL) or the remix spreadsheet 2.0, which both are reliable sources. If the BPM aren't on there, you'd have to find out yourself or ask someone to help you find out. Stick N Move (Demo) has the same BPM as the remix spreadsheet 2.0. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LPsMart Posted July 20, 2021 Share Posted July 20, 2021 (edited) On 7/15/2021 at 5:35 PM, NJPLP said: Stick N Move (Demo) has the same BPM as the remix spreadsheet 2.0. yeah, 'cause I added it, when HT20 came out. but the fact that there's one track with the same bpm, doesn't mean they're a reliable source. I'll check the songs' BPM for you and add them to the spreadsheet EDIT: alright, those were pretty accurate, but they made huge mistakes. As said before, And One is like the only song by LP without click, so no BPM there - just a bold assumption made by a computer. Also, seemingly Mike had a little fun with numbers programming the beats, because Dialate has a BPM of 105.678 seems intended to me, as well as Reading My Eyes' 136.636. You cannot just round them up to something, because the click would speed up every beat compared to the track itself. PB, She Couldn't and S'n'M were right though, my bad. I also added the keys they're in and the time signatures. Need a little help with Could Have Been - I think it's in C# Phrygian, might also be C# Minor. I'm waiting on Astat's opinion, if he reads this. Edited July 20, 2021 by LPsMart Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NJPLP Posted July 25, 2021 Author Share Posted July 25, 2021 (edited) Technique (Short) is 95 BPM, according to songbpm.com. Technique (Short) BPM Grr (1999 Demo) is 100 BPM, according to the same site I mentioned before. Grr (1999 Demo) BPM Coal (1997 Demo) is also 100 BPM, according to the same site I mentioned before. Coal (1997 Demo) BPM Dedicated (1999 Demo) is 103 BPM, according to the same site I mentioned before. Dedicated (1999 Demo) BPM Sad ("By Myself" Demo 1999) is 103 BPM, the same BPM as "By Myself" and "SuperXero ("By Myself" Demo)", according to the same site I mentioned before. Sad ("By Myself" Demo 1999) BPM Blue (1999 Demo) is also 103 BPM, according to the sames site I mentioned before. Blue (1999 Demo) BPM Oh No ("Points Of Authority" Demo) is 95 BPM, the same as "Points Of Authority" and "Points Of Authority (Demo) [Forgotten Demos]", according to the same site I mentioned before. Oh No ("Points Of Authority" Demo) BPM Points Of Authority (Demo) [LPU Rarities] is also 95 BPM, the same as "Points Of Authority" and "Points Of Authority (Demo) [Forgotten Demos]", according to the same site I mentioned before. Points Of Authority (Demo) [LPU Rarities] BPM Stick And Move ("Runaway" Demo 1998) is 108 BPM, the same as "Stick N Move (Demo)", according to the same site I mentioned before. Stick And Move ("Runaway" Demo 1998) BPM Chair (1999 "Part Of Me" Demo) is 142 BPM, the same as "Part Of Me", according to the same site I mentioned before. Chair (1999 "Part Of Me" Demo) BPM Slip (1999 Demo) is 125 BPM, according to the same site I mentioned before. Slip (1999 Demo) BPM Hurry (1999 Demo) is 117 BPM, according to the same site I mentioned before. Hurry (1999 Demo) BPM Esaul ("A Place For My Head" Demo) should be the same as "Esaul (Xero Demo)" and "A Place For My Head", where it is 133 BPM. Forgotten (Demo) should be the same as "Rhinestone (Xero Demo)" and "Forgotten", where it is 110 BPM. I know some of these are correct, but I'm not sure if all of them are correct. I'll wait for someone to check them out. Edited July 25, 2021 by NJPLP Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LPsMart Posted July 25, 2021 Share Posted July 25, 2021 19 hours ago, NJPLP said: Technique (Short) is 95 BPM, according to songbpm.com. Technique (Short) BPM Grr (1999 Demo) is 100 BPM, according to the same site I mentioned before. Grr (1999 Demo) BPM Coal (1997 Demo) is also 100 BPM, according to the same site I mentioned before. Coal (1997 Demo) BPM Dedicated (1999 Demo) is 103 BPM, according to the same site I mentioned before. Dedicated (1999 Demo) BPM Sad ("By Myself" Demo 1999) is 103 BPM, the same BPM as "By Myself" and "SuperXero ("By Myself" Demo)", according to the same site I mentioned before. Sad ("By Myself" Demo 1999) BPM Blue (1999 Demo) is also 103 BPM, according to the sames site I mentioned before. Blue (1999 Demo) BPM Oh No ("Points Of Authority" Demo) is 95 BPM, the same as "Points Of Authority" and "Points Of Authority (Demo) [Forgotten Demos]", according to the same site I mentioned before. Oh No ("Points Of Authority" Demo) BPM Points Of Authority (Demo) [LPU Rarities] is also 95 BPM, the same as "Points Of Authority" and "Points Of Authority (Demo) [Forgotten Demos]", according to the same site I mentioned before. Points Of Authority (Demo) [LPU Rarities] BPM Stick And Move ("Runaway" Demo 1998) is 108 BPM, the same as "Stick N Move (Demo)", according to the same site I mentioned before. Stick And Move ("Runaway" Demo 1998) BPM Chair (1999 "Part Of Me" Demo) is 142 BPM, the same as "Part Of Me", according to the same site I mentioned before. Chair (1999 "Part Of Me" Demo) BPM Slip (1999 Demo) is 125 BPM, according to the same site I mentioned before. Slip (1999 Demo) BPM Hurry (1999 Demo) is 117 BPM, according to the same site I mentioned before. Hurry (1999 Demo) BPM Esaul ("A Place For My Head" Demo) should be the same as "Esaul (Xero Demo)" and "A Place For My Head", where it is 133 BPM. Forgotten (Demo) should be the same as "Rhinestone (Xero Demo)" and "Forgotten", where it is 110 BPM. I know some of these are correct, but I'm not sure if all of them are correct. I'll wait for someone to check them out. so no reason at all to post this. if someone wanted to know, they could google themselves to not find out if those numbers are right Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NJPLP Posted July 31, 2021 Author Share Posted July 31, 2021 (edited) On 7/25/2021 at 7:39 PM, LPsMart said: so no reason at all to post this. if someone wanted to know, they could google themselves to not find out if those numbers are right Esaul ("A Place For My Head" Demo) should be the same as "Esaul (Xero Demo)" and "A Place For My Head", where it is 133 BPM. Forgotten (Demo) should be the same as "Rhinestone (Xero Demo)" and "Forgotten", where it is 110 BPM. All I know is that these should be fixed. Not too sure about the other songs I mentioned, though. Edited July 31, 2021 by NJPLP Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LPsMart Posted August 1, 2021 Share Posted August 1, 2021 On 7/31/2021 at 5:25 AM, NJPLP said: should be the same as "Esaul (Xero Demo)" the Xero demo is 133.133, not 133; the HT Demo is slightly faster than the Xero demo On 7/31/2021 at 5:25 AM, NJPLP said: Forgotten (Demo) should be the same as "Rhinestone (Xero Demo)" and "Forgotten", where it is 110 BPM. both Forgotten Demo and Rhinestone Xero Demo are at 108.108, not 110 Will you please stop posting false information now? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NJPLP Posted August 4, 2021 Author Share Posted August 4, 2021 On 8/1/2021 at 7:19 PM, LPsMart said: the Xero demo is 133.133, not 133; the HT Demo is slightly faster than the Xero demo both Forgotten Demo and Rhinestone Xero Demo are at 108.108, not 110 Will you please stop posting false information now? Sorry, I though they were the same, my mistake. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NJPLP Posted August 10, 2021 Author Share Posted August 10, 2021 According to Linkinpedia, Stick N Move is 108 BPM. Does that mean the Xero demo and the "Runaway" 1998 demo instrumental are the same as "Stick N Move (Demo)" or are they different? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NJPLP Posted September 15, 2021 Author Share Posted September 15, 2021 According to Linkinpedia, Hurry and So Far Away have the same tempo of 117 BPM. Hurry (1999 Demo) Linkinpedia Page So Far Away (1999 Demo) Linkinpedia Page You can change that, if you haven't changed it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LPsMart Posted September 16, 2021 Share Posted September 16, 2021 Dude Linkinpedia is still run by this page, so this is no new information Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NJPLP Posted September 16, 2021 Author Share Posted September 16, 2021 (edited) 8 hours ago, LPsMart said: Dude Linkinpedia is still run by this page, so this is no new information What I mean't by that is that you can update the Linkin Park Remix 2.0 spreadsheet. Edited September 16, 2021 by NJPLP Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LPsMart Posted September 17, 2021 Share Posted September 17, 2021 (edited) On 9/16/2021 at 4:07 PM, NJPLP said: What I mean't by that is that you can update the Linkin Park Remix 2.0 spreadsheet. there's no need to, if that's on Linkinpedia. The spead sheet is run by LPLive members as well. Edit: I did the LPU 12 for you, I hope that'll be it for some time. Finding out the BPM destroys the song experience, so I truly hope this will keep you busy. Edited September 17, 2021 by LPsMart Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NJPLP Posted September 17, 2021 Author Share Posted September 17, 2021 (edited) 1 hour ago, LPsMart said: there's no need to, if that's on Linkinpedia. The spead sheet is run by LPLive members as well. Edit: I did the LPU 12 for you, I hope that'll be it for some time. Finding out the BPM destroys the song experience, so I truly hope this will keep you busy. I... honestly didn't know that. Thanks for telling me! Edited September 17, 2021 by NJPLP Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LPsMart Posted September 17, 2021 Share Posted September 17, 2021 5 minutes ago, NJPLP said: I... honestly didn't know that. Thanks for telling me! try it out sometime, it's mind bugging. will eventually do the rest of LPU if possible, so the topic is off the table Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NJPLP Posted September 17, 2021 Author Share Posted September 17, 2021 5 minutes ago, LPsMart said: try it out sometime, it's mind bugging. will eventually do the rest of LPU if possible, so the topic is off the table What about Grey Daze or Sean Dowdell And His Friends? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LPsMart Posted September 17, 2021 Share Posted September 17, 2021 19 minutes ago, NJPLP said: What about Grey Daze or Sean Dowdell And His Friends? I don't care about them, neither do I know if they tracked on click Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NJPLP Posted September 17, 2021 Author Share Posted September 17, 2021 (edited) So I'm guess we'll never find out the actual tempo to "And One"? Edited September 17, 2021 by NJPLP Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Robrobbsen Posted September 17, 2021 Share Posted September 17, 2021 Have you tried finding it out maybe? You post corrections all the time so it should be easy for you to find out. If they didn´t track And One to click then you´ll only get an estimate. Or you just take the bpm of the rap section at the end since thats defenetely on a grid. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LPsMart Posted September 19, 2021 Share Posted September 19, 2021 On 9/17/2021 at 5:55 PM, NJPLP said: So I'm guess we'll never find out the actual tempo to "And One"? Do you even know what tempo means? On 7/15/2021 at 4:22 PM, LPsMart said: If you had fact checked it, you would have realized that And One isn't played on click (except the outro, which isn't 110 BPM but 100), and if it were, it would be around 115. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NJPLP Posted September 20, 2021 Author Share Posted September 20, 2021 (edited) Are you going to put the leaked demos (Pictureboard (Xero Demo), Fiends (Xero Demo), Drop (Kenji and Artofficial), Closing (Xero Demo), the demos that weren't released officially by Linkin Park on the Hybrid Theory 20th anniversary box set from the 2-track, 6-track, 7-track, 8-track, and 9-track demos, Cry To Yourself - Dj Lethal (feat. Chester Bennington), Unreleased - The Visonairies (feat. Mike Shinoda and Mr. Hahn of Linkin Park), ect.) on the Linkin Park Remix 2.0 spreadsheet? Also, you didn't put It's Goin' Down - The X-Ecutioners (feat. Mike Shinoda and Mr. Hahn) on the Linkin Park Remix 2.0 spreadsheet. Edited September 20, 2021 by NJPLP Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LPsMart Posted September 20, 2021 Share Posted September 20, 2021 5 hours ago, NJPLP said: Are you going to put the leaked demos (Pictureboard (Xero Demo), Fiends (Xero Demo), Drop (Kenji and Artofficial), Closing (Xero Demo), the demos that weren't released officially by Linkin Park on the Hybrid Theory 20th anniversary box set from the 2-track, 6-track, 7-track, 8-track, and 9-track demos, Cry To Yourself - Dj Lethal (feat. Chester Bennington), Unreleased - The Visonairies (feat. Mike Shinoda and Mr. Hahn of Linkin Park), ect.) on the Linkin Park Remix 2.0 spreadsheet? Also, you didn't put It's Goin' Down - The X-Ecutioners (feat. Mike Shinoda and Mr. Hahn) on the Linkin Park Remix 2.0 spreadsheet. I'm not Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NJPLP Posted September 21, 2021 Author Share Posted September 21, 2021 (edited) On 9/20/2021 at 5:51 PM, LPsMart said: I'm not I was just wondering because they are not on there. Also, since you said other LPLive members also run the Linkin Park Remix 2.0 spreadsheet, maybe they can put that in. Also, shouldn't the EP version of "High Voltage" be 94 BPM, the same as the M. Shinoda Remix/2000 Reprise? According to Linkinpedia, Technique (Short) is 105 BPM, so you (or some other LPLive member) can put that in to the Linkin Park Remix 2.0 spreadsheet. Edited September 22, 2021 by NJPLP Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NJPLP Posted January 28, 2022 Author Share Posted January 28, 2022 (edited) Someone might need to fix the BPM to Richard Bachman, Cheat Codes, and Ctrl C Ctrl V on Linkinpedia. https://musicstax.com/album/ziggurats/0bfCCgrNHMKomAfVbCZeS6 Edited January 28, 2022 by NJPLP Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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