BrandonYancar

Is the reason Chester sounds so off to us because we are so used to his voice having 450 layers of autotune over it (see: New Divide) and this is raw? Do we even really know what Chester really sounds like on a studio song without HUGE editing and processing? LOL

I think so. I feel they may have wanted it to be raw. They let his voice crack here and there which I do like, but he literally sounds like he is dying in some parts.

Chester sounds incredibly raspy and strained to me.

Most legendary emcee to ever guest on an LP song, including Jay-Z.

 

That said, my first two thoughts:

 

1. How are they going to play this live? Just completely cut Rakim's part out of the song? I hate this about collaborations with outside vocalists on studio albums, it either means you end up using playback of their vocals for live performances, which comes across as super lame, or you end up cutting big chunks out of songs, which is about equally lame.

2. Great, a guest rapper on a "regular LP album" single. Now people are going to think Mike quit the band again.

 

Song is overall pretty cool, still not a big fan of the intro but once that piano part comes in, the rest all sounds good. I think the song could honestly just start with the piano and leave that first bit out, but that's just me. Production seems extremely raw...I know this is going to be a self-produced album, but this is bordering on "sounds like a rough demo recorded at a home studio" territory. Also, Chester doesn't really sound like...himself.

 

Also, parts of this remind me a LOT of the Beta State song on LPU 13.

I like the verse and all, but you said it perfectly. It basically makes the song impossible to play live in full form. I doubt they'd bring him around the whole tour for this song (unless he did more with them)

I have an iPhone 5 and it lagged my phone to shit when the video was playing. It may not even work on oldish devices.

I'm on an iPhone 4 and it plays perfectly fine for me.

Rakim and its a very great verse!

Yeah.. it sounds okay, but I didn't want a collaboration.

Could've done without the additional vocals by whoever that was.

Holy SHIT this is awesome.

What do you guys think the announcement of tomorrow will be about? I'm hoping a new song or a release date to a song with a 30 second clip or something of a chorus.

I just hope they didn't completely ditch their simpler, melodic side for nothing but thrash. I don't want them to try too hard. The preview sounded like shit IMO.

I don't know if I like this.

 

Maybe this was the demo of the notes we saw? (Thrash intro)

This is pretty exciting.

I WANT THIS GUY AS A TEACHER

 

I guess you could say he's into...MATH ROCK.

 

*rimshot*

 

Or actually, if it's math rock, it'd be more like some crazy 7/4 Chris Pennie drum fill, THEN a rimshot.

He's awesome, and so laid back. After he's done teaching us, I usually come up to his desk and we talk about music and computers. He introduced me to A Perfect Circle and other bands and I gave him some names to listen to; we basically figured out we like really similar things. He says he likes LP's first two albums (go figure) and he's really interested in all of the buzz for their new album.

 

 

For LP, I hope to God they don't make the Mall soundtrack sound anything like their upcoming studio album. I would love Reanimation-esque stuff on the soundtrack with huge string layers (David Campbell?), like.. very cinematic. Like it's suppose to be as a soundtrack. And for the new album, I'd love anything. I'm really looking forward to the "heavy" that keeps going around. I just hope they don't try too hard, and hopefully they make stuff the band can play live.

My Pre Calculus/Trigonometry teacher (he's into heavy music) said he heard a radio station say that they are going to have a lot of different styles of songs on the album, and will shortly be releasing the album title. Take this however you would like.

Are you out of your mind? the album is coming pretty soon

 

A long wait was Meteora-MTM kid.

Yeah, it's coming soon, but we literally know nothing on how it'll sound other than it SEEMS like it's going to be a more organic "raw" album, but that's all speculation from small interviews we are given. None of the members (that I know of) have said what the direction of the album is, they just say they're constantly in the studio and having fun. Hell, they probably still don't even know what it'll all sound like. In my opinion, (not trying to offend anyone) I find naming an album without knowing anything of it's composition redundant and stupid. I say leave that to the people who are actually doing the work.

Good to hear, MTM is one of my Favorites by LP. Would love a more Rock-driven record. Mike's statements about bringing back rock n' roll and Brad using his guitar a lot has me excited. Can't wait for the hype to start building this year!

 

Agreed. Also, Chester has been around STP for a little while, so maybe that'll also mean something in terms of his lyrical content and singing styles for their new album.

Listening to "In The End" on the radio as a 6 year old, it was awesome and I immediately started liking them, but being six I didn't exactly have favorites, I was still drowned in Backstreet Boys and NSync. When I was in 7th grade, I fully geeked out and got into them again and here I am. I never looked back, the music did mentally help me through the "stress" of middle school/high school with my depression and other issues, just like the lyrics were intended to.

Does anyone know if the band is on bad terms with Don Gilmore? I'm not the type to look though 1000 interviews to know this, i just want to know since they don't have to work with him anymore. I know Chester got mad at him from Don telling him to rewrite lyrics and he ended up with some of the lyrics to "One Step Closer".

Someone asked Rob on Facebook during his chat "Hi Rob! We already know the opinions from Mike and Chester about it.. So I'm interested to know yours..How would you describe the new material that the band is composing? Will you have a more active role in it?" and he said "Yes, we've been working on new music and I'm personally very excited about the direction of the new album. Its hard to tell exactly how its going to turn out at this time but we've been spending a lot of time together in the studio and I've done a lot of drumming over the last month. I would definitely say live drums have a more active role in what we are doing."

 

Good to hear, right?

 

Also, two of his favorite songs to perform live are Somewhere I Belong and No More Sorrow.

Red are a bunch of Linkin Park imitators in general. To the point that their idea of "promotion" was to have a bunch of their forum members sign up over at LPA and spam the Other Music forum with rave reviews about how they sounded just like Linkin Park. They literally think of it as a selling point. A bunch of Flobots fans did the same thing at one point.

Another song is "Already Over", a rip off of "In The End", even the music video's effects are similar. I didn't know they were like that. I've noticed Sum 41 has copied a bit from Linkin Park as well, it's really funny to be honest because I can hear the ripping off and "inspiration" so clearly.

 

 

 

 

 

By the way Astat, excellent job on the Holding Company tab, damn is that song hard to play throughout, or maybe my hands are a bit weak. Doing those finger picking positions for the whole song is hell on my wrists, it may be my new warm up, lol.

Is it me, or does "Hide" by RED sound WAAAY too similar to "From The Inside"? I look, and look for comparisions, and no one talks about it, I thought at least one person would.. Similar chord progression, similar if not exactly the same tempo, same 6/8 time signature, same tuning, etc. Even the bridge is such a rip-off in my opinion, but right after that it gets somewhat different. Has LP ever had any connections with this band? I found them a few years ago from listening to Pandora, I like quite a few songs, but their first album especially is nothing but a generic, obvious Linkin Park wannabe with more strings and a rougher sounding mix. Innocense and Instinct/Until We Have Faces are have some pretty awesome songs, though, new album is ass imo.

Pretty Birdy.

I don't understand how people are saying "Pretty Birdy" is just a crappy version, a garage cover, a letdown, a useless version of the original. When I read people dissing it, I was afraid to listen to it, but when I did I was pleasantly surprised. It is completely different. Maybe it's because I love Somewhere I Belong so much, but I prefer a few things in this demo from the original song.

 

 

 

The clean guitar just sounds so much better, it's basically drowning in reverb and delay, it fills the stereo field realy nice, compared to ridiculously dry, basic clean part in the final cut slammed to the left channel.. which I can understand because it was accompanied by vocals, a piano riff and the reversed sample and a lot more percussion stood out. When the chorus kicks in, the chords (and maybe octaves?..ASTAT? I can't tell if they are f'd up chords with a bunch of major/minors tied into chords, or if they are octaves with inverted/power chords on separate guitar tracks, because the octaves in the bridge sound like they're supposed to be played on the same guitar as the chords) and drums are so raw, I love it. I also prefer the bridge in the demo, it's badass. The final cut sounds too fake, and "grided", they used the same octave track for every repeat and it just sounded stupid. I love loose heavy rock tracks like this. One thing I hate in the demo is the bass track, it sounds so dry. I wil definetly be doing a cover of SWIB with elements of this demo in it.

I knew I recognised the name...

 

"Basquiat" refers to Jean-Michel Basquiat ("ba-skya") - a hugely influential, and very political primitivist NY grafitti artist from the 70s/80s (of whom Mike will certainly be aware). his work is ugly, messy stuff but it makes his commentary far more powerful than if it were presented in a refined and well-formed way. (swearing on Given Up...?)

 

MTM was the first time LP overtly dealt with politics, it doesn't surprise me that Mike was clearly drawing reference from this.

Basquiat is worth reading about if anyone's interested

 

The first time I saw the name, I thought "Basket" or something. Lol, nice to know it actually has a good meaning behind the name.

seriously you never play again "Change" by Beta State? I think that is one of the best song in the album.

It's a decent song, it just doesn't fit.

Well I bought the All-In-One package. Is it not included?

According to other people who bought it.. nope :/