Keys changed, tempo LP 2024

[JZLP-Benningstrong]

I've read in the shout box that some stuff changed in the show to accommodate to Emily's voice 

 

Can someone explain me what changed ? I have no knowledge about music but i would love to learn a bit, seems really interesting.

[GC377]

The key is changed, in other words the pitch of the songs is different. Emily's vocal range sits higher than Chester's, so she can't hit the lower notes that he can. Some songs have a drastic change, like Somewhere I Belong, which was originally their lowest tuned song at Drop A# (I think, someone correct me if I'm wrong) and is now being played in Drop D or Drop C#, about 2 1/2 or 3 full steps higher than original. Some are less drastic, like Faint, being played a half step higher than original. That being said, some songs are played in the original key, like Lying From You.

 

The benefit is that Emily can sing the songs easier, as the vocal melodies fit more comfortably within her range and she doesn't have to strain to hit the lower notes that are out of her comfortable range. A lot of bands do this, however they usually lower the key of their songs so they don't have to strain to hit higher notes. LP did this at the tribute show when Oli Sykes did Crawling. This is a rare instance of a band raising the key of the songs, hence why people are so thrown off by the changes.

[bloodbath]

10 hours ago, GC377 said:

The key is changed, in other words the pitch of the songs is different. Emily's vocal range sits higher than Chester's, so she can't hit the lower notes that he can. Some songs have a drastic change, like Somewhere I Belong, which was originally their lowest tuned song at Drop A# (I think, someone correct me if I'm wrong) and is now being played in Drop D or Drop C#, about 2 1/2 or 3 full steps higher than original. Some are less drastic, like Faint, being played a half step higher than original. That being said, some songs are played in the original key, like Lying From You.

 

The benefit is that Emily can sing the songs easier, as the vocal melodies fit more comfortably within her range and she doesn't have to strain to hit the lower notes that are out of her comfortable range. A lot of bands do this, however they usually lower the key of their songs so they don't have to strain to hit higher notes. LP did this at the tribute show when Oli Sykes did Crawling. This is a rare instance of a band raising the key of the songs, hence why people are so thrown off by the changes.

Bands like Metallica or Megadeth whose singers have blown up their voices after years of abuse/mistreating, have lowered their songs like half step or even a whole step. What LP have done isn't very usual. At first I thought that it sounded like this due to a mixing problem!

[Yucker]

I know Muse does it too for certain songs, specially the oldest ones like songs from Showbiz album (1999) or even Madness (2012), which they play half step down from their original tone.

 

Somewhere I Belong I think they played until this tour in Eb (like A Place for my head for example) but they tune it up a whole step. Another song they pitched up is What i've done with half step up, 'cuz I played it along the streaming show with my bass and it's half step higher than usual.

[cSharp]

On 9/8/2024 at 9:28 PM, bloodbath said:

Bands like Metallica or Megadeth whose singers have blown up their voices after years of abuse/mistreating, have lowered their songs like half step or even a whole step. What LP have done isn't very usual. At first I thought that it sounded like this due to a mixing problem!

To be fair, it is unusual to change from a male singer to a female singer, and it is pretty common to do a key change when a female singer covers a originally male singer sung song.

 

On 9/8/2024 at 11:24 AM, GC377 said:

The key is changed, in other words the pitch of the songs is different. Emily's vocal range sits higher than Chester's, so she can't hit the lower notes that he can. Some songs have a drastic change, like Somewhere I Belong, which was originally their lowest tuned song at Drop A# (I think, someone correct me if I'm wrong) and is now being played in Drop D or Drop C#, about 2 1/2 or 3 full steps higher than original. Some are less drastic, like Faint, being played a half step higher than original. That being said, some songs are played in the original key, like Lying From You.

 

The benefit is that Emily can sing the songs easier, as the vocal melodies fit more comfortably within her range and she doesn't have to strain to hit the lower notes that are out of her comfortable range. A lot of bands do this, however they usually lower the key of their songs so they don't have to strain to hit higher notes. LP did this at the tribute show when Oli Sykes did Crawling. This is a rare instance of a band raising the key of the songs, hence why people are so thrown off by the changes.

I had no idea SIB is DropA#, lol, never thought LP would be the kind of a band to go to a seven-string region.

[GC377]

58 minutes ago, cSharp said:

I had no idea SIB is DropA#, lol, never thought LP would be the kind of a band to go to a seven-string region.

Yeah they can go low! In fact, With You and Runaway off Hybrid Theory were both played on 7 strings in B standard. Don't Stay is in Drop B, I believe Somewhere I Belong is actually in A# standard on a baritone, and the new song, Heavy Is The Crown, has rhythm guitars in Drop A, which I believe is their lowest tuning thus far! That being said, Dave seemingly isn't tuning any lower than Drop C# on this tour and his part on Heavy Is The Crown is largely in the same octave as the rhythm guitars.

 

Also, little fun fact, speaking of tunings and key changes: Lost in the Echo is being played in a higher key live - two full steps higher than the original - but where the original was in Drop D, Mike is now playing it in Drop A!