bloodbath

50$ for a brand new vinyl is fucking Insane 

On 2/24/2024 at 11:37 PM, GlassCastles said:

1. No More Sorrow (Long Intro)

2. Rebellion

3. Victimized (w/ 'QWERTY')

4. What I've Done (AMBO Intro; Ext. Guitar Solo Bridge)

5. Lying From You (2008 Intro)

6. Until It Breaks (Shortened (Through Chester's Verse Only); Transition Ending)

7. Waiting For The End (Apaches Intro w/ 'Until It Breaks' v3; Wall of Noise Outro)

8. Lost In The Echo (Ambient Intro)

9. From The Inside

10. Nobody Can Save Me

11. Castle Of Glass (Experience Version; Bridge w/ 'Wisdom, Justice, and Love'; Oppenheimer Transition Outro w/ 'The Catalyst' Vox)

12. The Catalyst

13. Final Masquerade

14. One More Light

15. P5hng Me A*wy

16. In The End 

17. When They Come For Me

18. Papercut (Ext. Outro)

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19. A Line In The Sand (Keyboard Intro)

20. Faint (Ext. Outro)

21. One Step Closer (Reanimation Bridge; Ext. Outro)

That encore is insane

On 2/24/2024 at 7:28 AM, Whitecloud9292 said:

Agree with everything you said. Don’t get the love for Friendly Fire, it’s not better or worse then anything on OML, just an average song to me from that era. 
 

The main albums have maybe 1 or 2 songs that are TRUE b sides and that’s it. Putting every song that has complete vocals on the main album it’s associated with just makes it cluttered and too much. For example, Across the Line you can tell is a true Minutes song. Or Lost on Meteora. We have yet to see a true proper one from later albums, IMO, well I guess now with Friendly Fire for OMl but yeah. 
 

I may be the only person who likes In Between a lot more then No Roads Left, even though I do love No Roads Left too, I think they nailed it with the MTM tracklisting except Across the Line was too good to leave off. Best b side the band has ever had

In Between is QUITE underrated 

3 minutes ago, ChesterRTX said:

I guess you're making a good point! I'm a fan from Mainland China. I spent 120% of the price for the box sets (customs duty or sth like that). For HT20 it's my first chance to ever possess any format of Hybird Theory EP. For Meteroa 20 it's I really love any previously unreleased live recordings. And both box sets are delicately designed.

But for Papercuts, I like "Friendly Fire", I really do, but I'm not movtivated to pay $100 for 2 sets of vinyls with different livery. I really like the idea of cassette though.

Looking foward to any MTM20 release! Personally that's my favourite LP album.

Exactly, you can simply just ignore its existence, you're not less of a fan if you don't buy absolutely everything from the band. Personally I would have love the remix of Iridescent to avoid paying 100$ for the CD single, but it's not the end of the world 

My opinion about Papercuts could have this headline: I could live without it.

Besides my opinion about Friendly Fire, which I found enjoyable, but forgettable, there was no necessity to release this. 

To be honest, I knew that this "Queen-esque" movement was going to come, sooner or later, very glad though that it has been much later than what I would have expected. 

What I mean by "Queen-esque" is that LP has become a legacy artist, like Queen or Michael Jackson, whose label have been releasing compilations with a couple of new tracks/demos, to make happy both hardcore and casual fans. But during this time we had two marvelous boxsets, so I can't be mad. 

As some of you have pointed out, the fact that they're releasing 300 different vinyls it's a cashgrab... But that's how it works capitalism. 

Does make any sense at all to release this compilation on physical format? Maybe in 1989, but nowadays casual fans, which are the main target of this release, will just stream the record and won't spend anything. 

I can't see the sense of spending almost 20 bucks for a new track, even less to buy that pack with all the formats for almost the price of a box set. But the truth is, if labels keep doing it, must be because hardcore fans we're quite dumb sometimes. Has it always has been. Personally I'll buy it if the price lowers, but as I said above, it's existence doesn't bother me and I can live without it. 

One more thing: I don't think we will ever have a box set for LT onwards. Making those boxsets are huge investments and they're not popular enough to justify it. Perhaps we will just have a 2/3CDs edition or something like that. 

1 hour ago, Vinescence said:

I just had a silly thought: any chance this release was planned for late 2023?
This would make more sense for "This will be a good year for Linkin Park fans", and also the incorrect name, Singles Collection 2000-2023

Well, it doesn't sounds crazy. Wouldn't be the first time that some marketing campaign comes out late

25 minutes ago, linkindan said:

Grey Daze = Cash Grab

Literally anyone else = Cool AF

Selling 1000 variants of a vinyl months few months after Chester's death

Selling posters of Chester during his time in LP despite being a GD album

Implying that Chester wasn't happy with LP and his true band was GD

There are HUGE difference between what LP and GD have done.

Please, don't fucking compare 

2 hours ago, Hybrid1988 said:

 

Ha! Fair take. I still see comments to this day: " I stopped listening after Meteora". Like, ok dude. 2004 wants their opinion back.  

Remember when OML came out? Many people saying "Linkin Park doesn't make metal anymore, what a bunch of sellouts". Same people who haven't heard of THP and repeat the same arguments from 2007 when MTM came out. Where have you been that decade?

16 minutes ago, Hybrid1988 said:

25 minutes ago, Subs said:

I dont get THP hate, or it being called boring, uninspired etc

 

The album is melt your face off exciting. Never understood why it isnt considered by the hardcore LP fans  a hidden gem and underatted, people usually shit on it. 

They could have just put Until its gone on this. Wonder if its because we might get a 10 year HP anniversary, doubtful but possible.

 

Same here dude. It’s crazy to me. Tons of LP fans were begging for a more hard rocking album from them and when they finally delivered, nobody bought in. I thought the album was going to be huge in the rock world. Feels like I’m the only one who dug it sometimes. 

They didn't want a harder LP album, they wanted a Meteora 3. Nothing else. 

The band played it safe with Papercuts. 90% of the tracks scream "you know us for this". Rather to try to impose their own tastes. ATS is the band's favorite record but they know casual fans still doesn't like it, it makes sense that WFTE is included, since it's very amicable. Even though tracks likeCatalyst and WTCFM are GREAT, somebody used to "classic" LP might find it weird. WFTE is a good teaser for those who really have curiosity.

The saddest part, of course, is that they even don't trust in THP. I don't think they hate it, but everything related to that album was a trainwreck. It makes sense that omitted it. 

But the biggest oddball is Qwerty. I have the theory that, thanks to the success to Lost, LP knows that casual fans crave for that heavy-yet-catchy sound. Giving them an obscure track that reminds to the Nu Metal era, makes some sense. 

3 hours ago, Stranger said:

 

understood. thanks for the clarification! i hope this new "Numb/Encore" mix is a teased for COLLISION COURSE 20th Anniversary or something. 🥹

Hope so!

2 minutes ago, OKCrew said:

 

I agree with this. I made a mix I call “Paper Edges” and it includes one song from every album/era, as well some that fall in between, as a sort of starter mix for my friends who were more casual fans and wanted to hear more. I think that QWERTY is quintessential for a mix like that as it bridges the gap between 2 of their most popular eras (Meteora & MTM).

 

i have to admit though i do wish they could squeeze a THP track (there’s a solid 4 different tracks that come to mind), but i also understand why they’re not included. 

I always had my suspicious that the Berlin 14 DVD was scrapped because maybe the album cycle wasn't being as well received as it expected.

On 2/17/2024 at 5:51 AM, DBSFan101 said:

As someone who is constantly on the go, I do. Plus I do have a music collection for when I want to listen to stuff not through streaming as well. But streaming is fine a lot of the time for me. Sounds great through my car’s speakers with Bluetooth. Don’t need much more. 

That's it, we usually speak of music like it's an ongoing civil war. If you stream music, you don't have digital music on your computer. If you collect vinyl, CD is the most absolute evil. 

There's no valid rules to listen your music, and you know what's best? All can be complementary. 

Here's the deal: LP has two main audiences. The hardcore fans, aka: lurkers of this page, and casual fans. 

The boxsets were meant for us, even the success of Lost was totally unexpected. 

But now isn't the time for us, is for the casual fans who haven't heard of Qwerty. Yes, there are people who in 18 years haven't had the time, the occurrence or whatever it is, to discover the song. You have the right to feel disappointed, but this isn't meant for us.

If that's a song I don't have on physical format, like Qwerty or Across the Line, I'm happy with it. I don't mind if it's 5 or 10 years old. 

6 minutes ago, Arslan said:

next chapter blue

B Sides and Rarities? Wild guess

Track 14 is Carousel

No, seriously, I'd love they include a HTEP track. 

3 hours ago, AParallelogramInTheSand said:

I'm having flashbacks to Tribal Ink songs being spread around limewire as unreleased LP songs lol 

2 hours ago, WildernessHasLeftTheChat said:

ohh yeah THAT Minutes to Midnight leak 😂

We're OLD. 

Anything but another OML track please

Some of you are disappointed with Friendly Fire. I don't get it, it's an outtake from OML, you know what to expect. There's no room for surprise. 

1 hour ago, OKCrew said:

That Step Up/Nobody’s Listening/It’s Goin’ Down that ended up on LPU4/M20 is also from that CC Roxy show right? Getting that whole set would be amazing

Yes! Very easy for them to pull it off the rest of their set. Must be already mixed and mastered

Seems like somebody leaked the 14th track. Just a demo from the MTM sessions

https://youtu.be/khFFIWg4WCE?si=yXWzmAERlLLvs-YM

10 minutes ago, JZLP-NaughtyNottingham said:

*Official release of the audio from the Castle of Glass Music Video

 

that audio version is unreleased!

That version is even great than the actual track!

2 minutes ago, lpliveusername said:

Probably didn't know what people were asking about.

That miscommunication between fans and artist sounds more like it. 

53 minutes ago, lpliveusername said:

Jeff Blue also told us it was Pushing Me Away.

 

A lot of people have pointed out that the strings at the end of Cure For The Itch transits into High Voltage. Mike said it's because he used the same keyboard and sounds on those two songs and By Myself. Jeff Blue actually owns a CD that has all 3 songs and High Voltage comes right after Cure For The Itch in the tracklist, so I believe that was the new version of High Voltage. It would mean that this version of High Voltage was created in the same period as other Hybrid Theory demos, not after the album was finished.

I've always found Mike's answer quite... vague. "It's sound the same because I use the same keyboard". Well, you could use the same keyboard for a whole album and still don't "magically" create perfect transitions from the end of one song to the beginning of another.